Guild Wars 2

More toys to play with in wvw? /buying … in every way I can. Never used them yet, want to have some fun, will definately get flammed for it, but Anet will fix it sooner =) … do you hear how much fun that guild is having in the video … ^^^ they can’t stop laughing. This week can be dubbed the week golems rained down.

=)

Maybe they get cut in the update, maybe not. Don’t care, I was sold on the video earlier this week, seems like a guild who likes to have fun, and not Q.Q ….. I want to try it out, if I laugh once, it’s money well spent.

StormWolf.7645:

Still easily turned on you though because if they reflect your mini-golems it’ll kill -your- group instead.

I can’t believe people are using this to defend this obvious exploit/bug. These things scale down walls towards tower attackers. Even if they are reflected, they do not scale up walls.

It’s pretty obvious that Anet will remove this from WvW.

…Everything is an exploit. Your attacks hit me but mine are blocked by terrain! Exploit!

-.-

EvilSardine.9635:

StormWolf.7645:

A) It’s slower than regular attacks.
B) It costs money for every attack.
C) It’s at BEST equal damage to your 1 Attack…If it’s doing more, you’re doing it wrong. XD

A) Not really. It’s spammable with no CD.

B)Saying this costs money to defend it is silly. It means that only bigger guilds and people with lots of money are the ones that abuse this. Which is why big guild leaders set up whole crews dedicated to stealthing while spamming these. Endless money to do it with.

C)People are being hit for 12k with this. Please let me know which class deals 12k in damage with their number 1 attack so that I can starting playing that class.

Here’s a suggestion … buy a few of these and actually see how they work in WvW before messing your pants with extravagant exaggerations.

A) They are spammable but take forever to get to their target, can be easily seen, and can be easily outrun without running away.

B) They do cost money but anyone can afford them. You can buy 125 of them for one silver.

C) The exception is not the rule. I’ve probably burned 500 of these things in the last day or so and none hit harder than a decent crit. The average damage is indeed about the same as an average #1 attack. Anybody who got hit for 12K by a GiB was wearing lowbie gear, got hit by a stacked crit, and was being attacked by somebody with a lot of attack power.

EvilSardine.9635:

I can’t believe people are using this to defend this obvious exploit/bug. These things scale down walls towards tower attackers.

The only way you can make them go down a wall is to stand at the very edge of the wall … otherwise the small lip on the wall will block them.

It’s pretty obvious that Anet will remove this from WvW.

Maybe ANet will remove them from WvW and maybe they won’t, but it’s pretty obvious that you’ve never actually used these things in any quantity and don’t know what you’re talking about.

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Hold on, wasn’t the 12k crit coming from using it in conjunction with a GC (insert profession here) in a siege golem? I want to make sure I use them correctly, but not going to spend 10G for 9 attacks.

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

They could…and crazy thought here…reflect them away?…Or kill the person shooting them since in order to attack you have to have LoS and that means Ballista to the face?…Claiming these are “Uber powerful for defense!” is a huge over-statement…their greatest defensive power is allowing people with little to no range attacks to hit at range.

Cactus.2710:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Right, let me just get that extension piece for my ram…

Haldunius.7864:

Cactus.2710:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Right, let me just get that extension piece for my ram…

I just read this as “These make PvDoor harder! Q.Q”

StormWolf.7645:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

They could…and crazy thought here…reflect them away?…Or kill the person shooting them since in order to attack you have to have LoS and that means Ballista to the face?…Claiming these are “Uber powerful for defense!” is a huge over-statement…their greatest defensive power is allowing people with little to no range attacks to hit at range.

As I said, I’m glad the bads got their ego boost but it’s time to start playing WvW again. Your statement is the equivalent to saying the counter to stealth culling abuse is AoE. You are completely missing the problem.

DarkElvenChic.2618:

Haldunius.7864:

Cactus.2710:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Right, let me just get that extension piece for my ram…

I just read this as “These make PvDoor harder! Q.Q”

LOL – Kaineng

Haldunius.7864:

DarkElvenChic.2618:

Haldunius.7864:

Cactus.2710:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Right, let me just get that extension piece for my ram…

I just read this as “These make PvDoor harder! Q.Q”

LOL – Kaineng

Ok I’ll give you that one, but I did fight outnumbered a lot on DH…fact of the matter is if you can’t take out one guy hitting your ram with GiB you, sir, are playing PvDoor.

Also…I don’t usually do PvDoor, I get out of WvW when they other guys stop coming on unless I’m training newbies. Some of us don’t like it.

DarkElvenChic.2618:

Haldunius.7864:

DarkElvenChic.2618:

Haldunius.7864:

Cactus.2710:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Right, let me just get that extension piece for my ram…

I just read this as “These make PvDoor harder! Q.Q”

LOL – Kaineng

Ok I’ll give you that one, but I did fight outnumbered a lot on DH…fact of the matter is if you can’t take out one guy hitting your ram with GiB you, sir, are playing PvDoor.

Also…I don’t usually do PvDoor, I get out of WvW when they other guys stop coming on unless I’m training newbies. Some of us don’t like it.

I’m trying to follow, but wouldn’t it be the opposite? If I’m getting hit by GiB’s there’s someone defending the keep…hence it’s not PvDoor. Also, if one guy with GiB’s is halting the progress of a group taking a tower…that’s totally broken (this also obviously has the requirement that said group is not terrible).

Random interesting fact; Both of the people repeatedly defending the use of GiB in this thread are from Kaineng..

Second interesting fact is FA hasn’t had Pvdoor for what…11 weeks now?

heres how they do 8k+ damage make a glass cannon build focuses on power-Get into golem-Golem missile spam= Profit. cuz yea you can use the mini golems while being in siege golem and that is the only thing tht would need fixing as golems double or triple power.

Haldunius.7864:

DarkElvenChic.2618:

Haldunius.7864:

DarkElvenChic.2618:

Haldunius.7864:

Cactus.2710:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Right, let me just get that extension piece for my ram…

I just read this as “These make PvDoor harder! Q.Q”

LOL – Kaineng

Ok I’ll give you that one, but I did fight outnumbered a lot on DH…fact of the matter is if you can’t take out one guy hitting your ram with GiB you, sir, are playing PvDoor.

Also…I don’t usually do PvDoor, I get out of WvW when they other guys stop coming on unless I’m training newbies. Some of us don’t like it.

I’m trying to follow, but wouldn’t it be the opposite? If I’m getting hit by GiB’s there’s someone defending the keep…hence it’s not PvDoor. Also, if one guy with GiB’s is halting the progress of a group taking a tower…that’s totally broken (this also obviously has the requirement that said group is not terrible).

If it’s not PvDoor why don’t you have AoEs or an AC pointed at that wall prevent him from using said GiB? One defender is hardly what I’d call WvW.

FYI most of Kaineng don’t use GiB, though naturally we have a high number of bored people trolling forums atm b/c there’s nothing to fight.

This thread will have one immediate outcome: more people that didn’t know about GiBs now do and will be using them more often. Lol

The more people use them the faster they’ll be nerfed so everyone reading this thread should buy them and use them as much as possible.

Odaman.8359:

The more people use them the faster they’ll be nerfed so everyone reading this thread should buy them and use them as much as possible.

Exactly.

I got a decent amount of people to get them and they’re getting their buddies in on it too. Really the only way something like this gets fixed is to just make it a “thing.”

the only broken thing is they can be used while on siege golems or when transformed rampager for example doubles power and golem gives an even higher boost wich turns a 2-3k hit into a 6-10k hit. if you dont attack the user then obviously he ll keep spamming them wich keeps them vulnerable as it removes their skills .

Haldunius.7864:

Cactus.2710:

Haldunius.7864:

A lot of people are missing the point. In open field no one really cares. For defense, these can obliterate siege with the defenders doing almost nothing. It is stupid. I’m glad quite a few bads have gotten some ego boosts, but I think it’s gone on long enough.

Get real. Personally, I don’t care whether they remove them or not, but I just think it is silly that people make such exaggerated complaints about them. It is trivial to place siege out of range of GiBs, and anything else you can do with them you can do better with players. The ONLY way I’ve ever seen them be effective enough to warrant nerfing them is against enemies who simply aren’t paying attention.

Right, let me just get that extension piece for my ram…

More ignorance, and more evidence that you’ve never really used these things. There is literally … and I mean literally … about a 100 to 1 difference in the amount of damage a flame ram will do to a gate compared with a golem-in-a-box. The GiB, of course, is a a bit faster, but not enough to make a difference.

Maniac.5163:

Random interesting fact; Both of the people repeatedly defending the use of GiB in this thread are from Kaineng..

LOL. If you’re referring to me, I’m not on Kaineng, never have been, and most likely never will.

Use your class abilities in WvW, and leave the kids toys in PvE where they belong.

This is getting totally out of control and demands an emergency patch for removal. All I have heard on TS tonight is “kittenING golems in a box”, the times I go check out out teams on sieges, there are 6+ JQ guys doing nothing but pumping golem boxes. The people defending this seriously need to have their heads examined.

zen.6091:

This is getting totally out of control and demands an emergency patch for removal. All I have heard on TS tonight is “kittenING golems in a box”, the times I go check out out teams on sieges, there are 6+ JQ guys doing nothing but pumping golem boxes. The people defending this seriously need to have their heads examined.

You can use them too?

They drop paper gates in a doozy. :O

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These things are amazing! Having 6 people spamming them in a coordinated group is unfreakingbelievably good! Thank you thank you for sharing this! We had no idea they existed until tonight and it’s like a bag farming godsend vs siege attackers. OMNOMNOMNOM!

UrFortuneCookie.4816:

They drop paper gates in a doozy. :O

rams are better on gates by far no matter what you spec and power

Nitejack the portal slave of EMP

Why hasn’t A-net commenting on this yet?

Forget the golems, you never see people coming in WvW anyway. Well, guys nothing to worry about there is no one here…wait, when did I die. Oh, look, NOW the game tells me about the 40 people running by.

Ubi.4136:

Forget the golems, you never see people coming in WvW anyway. Well, guys nothing to worry about there is no one here…wait, when did I die. Oh, look, NOW the game tells me about the 40 people running by.

lol true…. which is why we don’t WANT to play zergball matches. Smaller group skirmishes, 20 max groups, are far better and more fun.

Darkrider.7461:

UrFortuneCookie.4816:

They drop paper gates in a doozy. :O

rams are better on gates by far no matter what you spec and power

Nitejack the portal slave of EMP

yes. but rams are dependent on supply on the spot. you take a 20man group with a ton of golems in a box, pew pew gate.

Golem in a box is nothing more than an amusement. You can do more damage to a gate with your weapon. As far as someone using them on you, you just close the distance and kill em while they stand there holding it.

I actually like having these things useable in wvw. They provide an interesting dynamic in strategies and makes them actually worthy of being purchased. It also ties the wvw+pve aspect that arenanet designed.

MikeFerguson.8921:

They will not be usable in WvW after the next patch.

LMAO and their goes the toys.

Why can’t we have nice things?

/sadface

MikeFerguson.8921:

They will not be usable in WvW after the next patch.

Why not? Despite the compaints they aren’t really overpowered and they add flavour to WvW.

Yet another toy nerved just as I found out about it

MikeFerguson.8921:

They will not be usable in WvW after the next patch.

Haha! Awesome.

Thank you Anet for fixing this exploit.

I definitely didnt just buy 5 stacks of these :| guess I better use them all fast lol

MikeFerguson.8921:

They will not be usable in WvW after the next patch.

That’s really weak. I enjoy the diversity of having pve items in wvw. WvW gets so bland sometimes. Perhaps a nerf instead of all-out removing them would be nicer, a non AoE component? Idk, ><

Would be nice to see golems go more towards a player killing direction as well. An ability that can do some AoE damage would be greatly appreciated and I think would add another dimension to golems.

They drop paper gates without the need to supply. har har har

ANet tried to quick patch the GiB issue and broke login’s? LOLZ – QQ serving our player base yet again!

NOOOO, Now I have to use the rest of my items that no one knows about!

Skale Venom and the Blessings are next?

I love golem in a box as much as the next guy, but let’s not act stupid and pretend like we didn’t know this would be nerfed at some point.

MikeFerguson.8921:

They will not be usable in WvW after the next patch.

Thank you for not changing the mechanics of the item, as these are still hilarious and great fun to show new players.