Guild Wars 2

Update (see third dev post below) – new matchups are today, but leaderboards (on the website) won’t show the actual matchups right away

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I got it more like: Not sure anymore that the new system will be used.

Crap.
I hate to say this, but I was kind of hoping JQ would finally drop out of T1 for a while, we just don’t field the numbers we once did.

If the formula is skewed then maybe they should manually randomize T1-t2, t3-t4 and so on and so forth. Matchups are boring and stagnant.

I can understand them being careful if they are afraid the new system will result in bad match ups. however i think many were looking forward to a bit of a shake up from the same matches we have been playing for the past several months. I don’t see why they can’t just manually set the matches this week. Mix up t1 and t2, t3 and t4 and so on.

That way we get new matches and they get another week to perfect the new system.

A wrong matchup can have people drop out of wvwvw,taking a break from the game..noticing there are other games ( yes there are,really ! )..And continue taking an even longer break..They cannot just switch things around based on their awesome calculations.They have to be realistic,a wrong matchup can screw things up bigtime,things are already kinda tense in wvwvw.

Is that a Yes/maybe or No for a change today?

That was the “No for todays matches” I would say.

A “hopefully for next weeks fridays matches”.

A “yes for sometimes in the future”

Yes on eventual implementation, no on it happening today.

Basically, it will be a surprise. What server will be behind door number 1? 2? 3? We’ll find out at reset time.

A: 2016
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@Devon, thank you for all your efforts and the time you spend communicating to the players. I and most GW2 players appreciate it.

Thanks for the comms – but again this begs the question why you do not just implement one up and one down in each tier. That leads to fluid matchups and is far more balanced than random or glicko. Plus a lot easier to implement on the technical side and for players to understand. It’s also how pretty much every team sport in the world handles promotion/relegation (for good reason).

1. WIPE the RANKS again.
2. Implement a 1 up and 1 down system.
3. Detach the borderland maps from EB.
4. Keep EB a weekly game.
5. Take the detached borderlands maps and make them daily randoms.
6. Add more maps later for the daily random rotation.
7. Get rid of the [outmanned] forever in WvWvW.
8. 1 man out, 1 man in. Always a balanced playing field.
9. No queue waits with added daily random maps.
10.Cure boredom, staleness and end-game with these changes.

The players know what’s best for what they want to play… Anet might need to spend more time playing their game then actually changing it for the worse…

Its a yes eventually but a no for this weeks matches.

Can people please stop banging on about the WULD system. It guaruntees uneven matchups every other week.

You know… I think they should turn the rating system off for a week ( or however long it takes them to fix this issue) and then let the system do a random shuffle anyway. See what happens and see how the match ups go.

Is it me… or has the general excitement for WvWvW left the building?

I haven’t touched GW2 for a couple of weeks now… going on week 8 of the same match ups. Still winning by 100k… Not to mention same maps… and usually same keep

<3 I’m enjoying wvw. It is still fun. The enemy is the enemy. It doesn’t matter who they are. And outside the game – it is fun in fotm.

But don’t take to long to make us wait. It is okay to release it; so we the players can report what’s wrong.

Murderous Clown.9723:

Can people please stop banging on about the WULD system. It guaruntees uneven matchups every other week.

Every system has uneven matchups, unless active wvw populations are capped to equal numbers at all times. WULD (silly acronym btw when it’s the universal form of team sport promotion/relegation across the world) takes the edge off the unevenness as servers experience winning and losing more equally.

WULD also better takes into account fluctations in server population, which is a key part of WVW. Some tiers have been dragged into weeks of unbalanced matchups due to the lack of immediate promotion/relegation.

Certainly oneup/onedown will be a lot more balanced than random as well, as Random is liable to pitch in bigger mismatches. First and second tier 4 vs the bottom tier 6 for example. In WULD every matchup at least matches those coming up from lower tier as winners vs higher tier losers.

A sad day for WvW’s… Ebay is like the big bully who smites AR down week after week. My server is loosing faith in fellow players, please give Ebay someone else!

Thanks for the update Devon. Hopefully everything gets sorted soon because I’m looking forward to fresh new faces in wvw.

You should make it an official post !

Oh wow. After just rejoicing at finally getting rid of Arborstone as well. Thanks for the hard work anyway.

Cheers, Devon. Take your guys out to lunch.

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Awesome news! Now if only matches could reset on time…. They tend to deviate 5-10 minutes until the scores actually reset.

Meh, i was looking forward to the Gandara-Ag-Fsp matchup.

Woah! Awesome! Thanks for the hard, dedicated work on this. I am excited to see how it turns out

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Having been a long time critic (well since Arrowcarts) I must say that this is rather impressive and congrats to you Devon for turning this around. While I may disagree with the change akittens core I am glad that you are listening to the players and getting it in when they want it.

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Shouldn’t you of had all this worked out before promising it?

Maybe you should analyze with detail the changes you think will work for the longevity of GW2 as a whole?

It seems your hasty decisions to satisfy might ultimately leave them dissatisfied in the near future once the repetition factor of the maps, layouts and weekly long grind come into play.

Pat yourselves on the back for actually getting it to where it’s at!

But there’s a long way to go… (forum mod you can delete this now since I made a bad comment)

@Devon
Is it possible to make that random roll at the beggining of the matchup, so sites like MoS can count it out and keep going with expected match ups?

Ayusaki.6739:

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Awesome news! Now if only matches could reset on time….

They do reset on time.

Energetik.6471:

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Shouldn’t you of had all this worked out before promising it?

Maybe you should analyze with detail the changes you think will work for the longevity of GW2 as a whole?

It seems your hasty decisions to satisfy might ultimately leave them dissatisfied in the near future once the repetition factor of the maps, layouts and weekly long grind come into play.

Pat yourselves on the back for actually getting it to where it’s at!

But there’s a long way to go… (forum mod you can delete this now since I made a bad comment)

Mewling kittens like this

This is great news. A vast majority of the WvW players on my server do not spend much time if any at all on the forums, but know my map chat and guild chat are a buzz with jubilation at this news.

Thanks for the hard work to turn it around before the reset

DevonCarver.5370:

We are still going to implement the changes as detailed in the post from Jordan, we just have to sit on them a bit to make sure there are no errors anywhere before we put them live. Sorry for the delay, but they’ll be here as quickly as we can manage.

Server zones into map on reset, find it is fighting a 3-way match with itself! O.o

(I’m teasing but that would be hilarious)

YAY ANET!!!

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Great job. Thanks for the nice work

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Good……………………..!

and… we have the same matchup :-)

Same matchup again for EU T1….

Nothing changed…

seem quite “random” …
hf with the server load in the 3 german server matchup thread ^^

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Awesome! Keep up the good work.

DevonCarver.5370:

Okay, so after much hard work and no small amount of wizardry we are going to get this in for today. We were unable to get the leaderboards fully set up to indicate the matchups, so there will be a disconnect there, but you will see your matchups once you log in.

Only for NA I guess? EU reset was just a minute ago and nothing changed!

nothing changed tier 7 EU

I’ll order pizza and have it sent to ArenaNet’s campus if there’s at least one new server in Blackgate’s matchup tonight.