Guild Wars 2

Like the title points out im wondering if theres any sylvari that have formed a interracial romantic relationship with another species? Have you guys seen something like this or any lore like this.

I’ve seen something like this. Though it’s just an RP.
A sylvari and a norn.
The lore… I’m not sure. :o

Uh oh~ Every night my sylvari dreams about hugging someone tight with her branches, tenderly wrapping around them with her roots and covering them with resin O.O’

xD

In personal story, Priory route:

Haha, wow. That line may have been taken slightly out of context. I think it would be hard to fall in love with a sylvari for the other races. They don’t really have some of the needed equipment the other races have, if you catch my drift.

I think she is just hinting that you both might die and she then lost her chance for finding love.

Regardless of the possibility of interracial relationships it will be without ever getting babies, since Anet supposedly have stated at some point that reproduction between races is impossible.

I don’t think that’s what Sieran meant. I’ve wondered about this in GW2. Naturally it would exist IRL if the races in GW2 were real, but as for the GW2 game storyline I haven’t seen a trace of it anywhere between NPCs yet. I’ve played through the game as Priory Sylvari, Vigil Human, and working on Whispers Sylvari so far.

Well, I mean, one of those two sylvari under the bridge in LA had a sense of lust for a norn male:
“did you see what she was wearing?”
“i was to busy looking at, him”

RedSpectrum.1975:

Well, I mean, one of those two sylvari under the bridge in LA had a sense of lust for a norn male:
“did you see what she was wearing?”
“i was to busy looking at, him”

I don’t think that is lust… you know you can say things like that and be excited, amazed, impressed etc. with others and how they look without it being anything like attraction or lust…

Maybe consider it this way. Most animals never mate with anything outside of their own species and in most cases not even within the different branches of the same species. It is not a choice or concious… they just… dont.

Recycle.5493:

In personal story, Priory route:

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Regardless of your race and what race you decided to help, Sieran will hint that she’s ready to fall in love, if you are.
http://i.imgur.com/hRRH1.jpg

I think she means she is ready to go fight, if you are.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Maybe consider it this way. Most animals never mate with anything outside of their own species and in most cases not even within the different branches of the same species. It is not a choice or concious… they just… dont.

Fantasy world. :P
Ask classic elves and humans. How was Half-elves born? :P

Rainman.6978:

Haha, wow. That line may have been taken slightly out of context. I think it would be hard to fall in love with a sylvari for the other races. They don’t really have some of the needed equipment the other races have, if you catch my drift.

Not quite right I say.

Romance and sex is practiced among the sylvari, disregarding gender between those involved.

So you know. It Can happen.

When I ran the order of whispers story on my mesmer…

That at least hints, to me, that just as we intelligent beings have had the thought cross our minds, so would the different races of Tyria…if they really are capable of intelligent though.

When you have to retrieve that sword for the pre-Order quests, I recall it being hinted that the sylvari had loved the man who stole the sword and left him to die.

Leo G.4501:

When I ran the order of whispers story on my mesmer…

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…and Tybalt was magically transformed into Demmi as a disguise, he mentioned the form’s nice ‘apples’ (in a suggestive manner, mind you)

That at least hints, to me, that just as we intelligent beings have had the thought cross our minds, so would the different races of Tyria…if they really are capable of intelligent though.

So the charr were really attacking for the humans’ access to apples? Then why did they burn the apple orchards to the ground?! Sheesh, silly charr.

As far as love, different kind of love but there is a sylvari who has an orphanage in northern Dredgehaunt Cliffs. It is multiracial because of the whole sylvari don’t have kids thing.

Marcusdeblack.2307:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Maybe consider it this way. Most animals never mate with anything outside of their own species and in most cases not even within the different branches of the same species. It is not a choice or concious… they just… dont.

Fantasy world. :P
Ask classic elves and humans. How was Half-elves born? :P

Rainman.6978:

Haha, wow. That line may have been taken slightly out of context. I think it would be hard to fall in love with a sylvari for the other races. They don’t really have some of the needed equipment the other races have, if you catch my drift.

Not quite right I say.

Romance and sex is practiced among the sylvari, disregarding gender between those involved.

So you know. It Can happen.

Men and Elves are both made out of meat.

Men and Sylvari are made out of meat and vegetables.

The thought of a meat/vegetable hybrid running around reminds me of that “Kill me…!”-scene out of the Aliens movie.

I think I remember a Pact sylvari in Orr with a crush on a human.

Oglaf.1074:

Marcusdeblack.2307:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Maybe consider it this way. Most animals never mate with anything outside of their own species and in most cases not even within the different branches of the same species. It is not a choice or concious… they just… dont.

Fantasy world. :P
Ask classic elves and humans. How was Half-elves born? :P

Rainman.6978:

Haha, wow. That line may have been taken slightly out of context. I think it would be hard to fall in love with a sylvari for the other races. They don’t really have some of the needed equipment the other races have, if you catch my drift.

Not quite right I say.

Romance and sex is practiced among the sylvari, disregarding gender between those involved.

So you know. It Can happen.

Men and Elves are both made out of meat.

Men and Sylvari are made out of meat and vegetables.

The thought of a meat/vegetable hybrid running around reminds me of that “Kill me…!”-scene out of the Aliens movie.

I was not inclining that they could have kids, just that they can feel strong emotions/love/lust toward each other.

Celestina.2894:

When you have to retrieve that sword for the pre-Order quests, I recall it being hinted that the sylvari had loved the man who stole the sword and left him to die.

If you do the Priory option to actually witness the event, then you see that the squire who stole the sword was a preteen at the time (which makes sense, given that it happened ~20 years ago and the guy is still young enough to be a champion gladiator.) I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that the game isn’t implying that the Sylvari revere a pedophile.

Urthona.3198:

Celestina.2894:

When you have to retrieve that sword for the pre-Order quests, I recall it being hinted that the sylvari had loved the man who stole the sword and left him to die.

If you do the Priory option to actually witness the event, then you see that the squire who stole the sword was a preteen at the time (which makes sense, given that it happened ~20 years ago and the guy is still young enough to be a champion gladiator.) I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that the game isn’t implying that the Sylvari revere a pedophile.

Lol when I read post you quoted, I laughed and said the same thing to myself.

But frankly that guy (the Sylvari that story is about) didn’t seem very smart…well, wise. An army of undead on the horizon and it’s only you and your 12-ish year old squire who is admitting he’s wetting himself in fright. “Let’s stand and fight!”

How about just protecting your squire and retreating? Live to fight another day while teaching your young ward a lesson in wisdom and humility.

I sort of felt sorry for the human dude you ended up wiping the floor with. He probably had some guilt buried deep down and used those fights to somehow prove he wasn’t a coward.

And no, I don’t think Riannoc had a sexual attraction to the human boy Waine. If anything, Riannoc was naive hadn’t the words to describe his feelings for the boy besides love. What he meant to say was he cared deeply for the boy as a role model and teacher.

Rainman.6978:

Haha, wow. That line may have been taken slightly out of context. I think it would be hard to fall in love with a sylvari for the other races. They don’t really have some of the needed equipment the other races have, if you catch my drift.

The devs have confirmed that they do.

There’s an interracial romance between a human and a sylvari in Cursed Shore.

Leo G.4501:

That at least hints, to me, that just as we intelligent beings have had the thought cross our minds, so would the different races of Tyria…if they really are capable of intelligent though.

I’m not surprised, and I can see why a Sylvari would be more acceptable than a Human to a Charr. XD

Sylv.5324:

I’m not surprised, and I can see why a Sylvari would be more acceptable than a Human to a Charr. XD

“Who’s a pretty kitty?!”
“I..am.”
Wow, scariest interspecies flirting ever. lol

Atlas.9704:

Sylv.5324:

I’m not surprised, and I can see why a Sylvari would be more acceptable than a Human to a Charr. XD

“Who’s a pretty kitty?!”
“I..am.”
Wow, scariest interspecies flirting ever. lol

“I like it when you get all snow leopard on me.”

I wasn’t paying enough attention to determine whether there’s any example of a sylvari falling for someone of another race, but amongst the dominant races, inter-race romances/crushes definitely exist. They aren’t very common – which makes sense, as you’d naturally be more attracted to your own kind – but they do exist.

The most amusing one was a male asura and a female charr. Albeit it was one-sided. One guess as to which way it was one-sided.

Dinny.5310:

I wasn’t paying enough attention to determine whether there’s any example of a sylvari falling for someone of another race, but amongst the dominant races, inter-race romances/crushes definitely exist. They aren’t very common – which makes sense, as you’d naturally be more attracted to your own kind – but they do exist.

The most amusing one was a male asura and a female charr. Albeit it was one-sided. One guess as to which way it was one-sided.

Either would be quite amusing to read/watch. Although I always imagined my Asura being the same way, having a preference to women outside of his species for one reason or another.

Given the fact that Sylvari consider first and foremost love as inspiration, falling in love with somebody from another race would be possible. Sexual intercourse is another matter.

“To a sylvari, love is about inspiration, and it has nothing at all to do with the physical form.” That’s from the official wiki guys… The page is here
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sylvari

found another example while running up to the Secluded Glen in Fields of Ruin I saw a male Norn NPC standing near, he must be an uncommon spawn as I have never seen him there before.

I talked to him and he just gives more Lore on the sylvari Kirran (sp?) who is buried there… and he confesses that he visits the grave often and even though “she was born of the night cycle, she was the brightest light in my life” ….

What also was interesting is after a minute or so, he walks up to the back of the glen and fades into the rock wall there…..

Hierofan.2415:

Given the fact that Sylvari consider first and foremost love as inspiration, falling in love with somebody from another race would be possible. Sexual intercourse is another matter.

“To a sylvari, love is about inspiration, and it has nothing at all to do with the physical form.” That’s from the official wiki guys… The page is here
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sylvari

That is more meant that Sylvari fall in love with folks regardless of their looks or race.

Zeefa.3915:

Maybe consider it this way. Most animals never mate with anything outside of their own species and in most cases not even within the different branches of the same species. It is not a choice or concious… they just… dont.

Actually they can and they do. Look at mules and ligers for two examples. Admittedly they’re usually found in captivity but it’s not some sort of forced breeding or artificial insemination – you pretty much put a male and a female of each species together and wait. (And in fact I think the first ligers in zoos were the result of keepers assuming that wouldn’t happen.) There’s also been sightings in the wild of a new species/sub-species which looks like it’s going to end up with the name golar bear – a cross between grizzlys and polar bears.

There are other examples too, but those are probably the best known.

Marcusdeblack.2307:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Maybe consider it this way. Most animals never mate with anything outside of their own species and in most cases not even within the different branches of the same species. It is not a choice or concious… they just… dont.

Fantasy world. :P
Ask classic elves and humans. How was Half-elves born? :P

I seem to remember seeing something in one of the DnD books, addressing the question of why most mixed race individuals were half human which effectively said if it’s physically possible there is a human somewhere willing to give it a go. I have to say based on some real life people I agree with their conclusion. If there was any race on this planet more humanoid than chimpanzees I think gay marriage would suddenly seem like a relatively minor issue for conservatives.

Akiko.2364:

found another example while running up to the Secluded Glen in Fields of Ruin I saw a male Norn NPC standing near, he must be an uncommon spawn as I have never seen him there before.

I talked to him and he just gives more Lore on the sylvari Kirran (sp?) who is buried there… and he confesses that he visits the grave often and even though “she was born of the night cycle, she was the brightest light in my life” ….

What also was interesting is after a minute or so, he walks up to the back of the glen and fades into the rock wall there…..

Nothing unusual.
It was more father/daughter relationship.

And Killeen, not Kirran… and That Was Gullik Oddson. Those are characters from Ghosts of Ascalon book. Read the book and you will know what was beetwen those two.

Killeen was cool in that story.
I miss her and Snaff

“And Killeen, not Kirran… and That Was Gullik Oddson. Those are characters from Ghosts of Ascalon book. Read the book and you will know what was beetwen those two”

thanks, i knew i got the name wrong.

is that an actual paperback book? or something from Guildwars 1 lore? I never played GW1 at all.

Akiko.2364:

“And Killeen, not Kirran… and That Was Gullik Oddson. Those are characters from Ghosts of Ascalon book. Read the book and you will know what was beetwen those two”

thanks, i knew i got the name wrong.

is that an actual paperback book? or something from Guildwars 1 lore? I never played GW1 at all.

It’s an actual paperback book. Most major bookstores should carry it. It’s written by Matt Forbeck and Jeff Grubb.

It is also available in epub format, the second book as well, I’ve preordered for the third one which will hopefully release this summer.

Danikat.8537:

Zeefa.3915:

Maybe consider it this way. Most animals never mate with anything outside of their own species and in most cases not even within the different branches of the same species. It is not a choice or concious… they just… dont.

Actually they can and they do. Look at mules and ligers for two examples. Admittedly they’re usually found in captivity but it’s not some sort of forced breeding or artificial insemination – you pretty much put a male and a female of each species together and wait. (And in fact I think the first ligers in zoos were the result of keepers assuming that wouldn’t happen.) There’s also been sightings in the wild of a new species/sub-species which looks like it’s going to end up with the name golar bear – a cross between grizzlys and polar bears.

There are other examples too, but those are probably the best known.

I am well aware of ligers and mules. Lions and Tigers are however branches of the same species… the big cats. As are horses and donkeys (equine). If you look more carefully at what I said, I said that MOST animals don’t even breed withing BRANCHES of the same species. I indicated that it does happen. However when it comes to different species say cats and dogs, that have not been known to happen ever. At least I would be shocked to find out of such thing. Now norn and human could argueably be branches of the same kind of species… they look mostly the same. But as for charr, asura, sylvari those are as different as rodents, cats and… well… flowers.
Even though we call them races in game the more correct term would be species. Very different species, with the sylvari as different as flowers are to mammals. At least the other 4 “races” got mammal in common… but mammal is a pretty wide term too.

So anyways… these 5 “races” are all sentient and in that case it is highly possible that attraction goes away from what is the instinct and what is natural. So perhaps love is possible between the races. Actually I can’t see why not really… I was just making a suggestion on why it would not happen… or at least that it would be something quite rare.
And love or not… they cannot reproduce, as is stated by lore, so there wont be any half norn, half humans anywhere. Or half anything else.

Zeefa.3915:

However when it comes to different species say cats and dogs, that have not been known to happen ever. At least I would be shocked to find out of such thing.

Here’s one good example of a bird attempting to mate with a human: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A7uFSbRJ5w

Now, you could argue that that incident was an anomaly because the kakapo in question (“Sirocco”) was originally raised in captivity before being released into the wild and may have imprinted onto humans, but there have also been recorded instances of wild dolphins trying to initiate sexual contact with humans (both males AND females). I’m sure that if I did enough research, I’d turn up examples of other species who initiated sexual play with humans on their own accord too.

Of course, none of these encounters would ever lead to viable offspring, but it just goes to show that there ARE unusual sexual tastes among creatures other than humans.

Zaxares.5419:

Zeefa.3915:

However when it comes to different species say cats and dogs, that have not been known to happen ever. At least I would be shocked to find out of such thing.

Here’s one good example of a bird attempting to mate with a human: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A7uFSbRJ5w

Now, you could argue that that incident was an anomaly because the kakapo in question (“Sirocco”) was originally raised in captivity before being released into the wild and may have imprinted onto humans, but there have also been recorded instances of wild dolphins trying to initiate sexual contact with humans (both males AND females). I’m sure that if I did enough research, I’d turn up examples of other species who initiated sexual play with humans on their own accord too.

Of course, none of these encounters would ever lead to viable offspring, but it just goes to show that there ARE unusual sexual tastes among creatures other than humans.

Ok there are exceptions, there always is, but it still stands that MOST (hence not all) species would not attempt such things. And granted dogs will pretty much hump anything. Guess I stand somewhat corrected lol.
I will still say it is more unusual than common though.

Zeefa.3915:

Ok there are exceptions, there always is, but it still stands that MOST (hence not all) species would not attempt such things. And granted dogs will pretty much hump anything. Guess I stand somewhat corrected lol.
I will still say it is more unusual than common though.

I don’t think that we can really compare it to Earth species, though, because Tyria has five species that are equally sentient, have more or less equally evolved societies, and routinely interact with each other on a cooperative basis – whereas in the real world there isn’t another species equivalent to humans.

There’s nothing else that’s as similar to the human race in the real world as the fantasy Tyrian races are to each other, so I don’t think we really have a point of comparison from our own world.

When a dog humps your leg, it is not trying to hump a human – it is trying to hump another dog in it’s pack because that’s how a family pet sees the human members. It is not trying to create a halfbreed or anything.

Zeefa.3915:

Ok there are exceptions, there always is, but it still stands that MOST (hence not all) species would not attempt such things. And granted dogs will pretty much hump anything. Guess I stand somewhat corrected lol.
I will still say it is more unusual than common though.

Of course. I don’t think anybody was arguing that it was more common for members of different species to be attracted to species other than their own (you’d have serious reproduction issues if that were the case!) It’s also obvious that most NPCs of the various races are attracted to their own kind, since examples of interracial relationships are hard to find throughout the game. At the same time though, there is ample evidence to indicate that cross-species relationships do occur from time to time.

There’s not really enough evidence to state that Sylvari are more attracted to non-Sylvari, however. There appear to be plenty of paired Sylvari in the Grove and throughout the Sylvari personal stories, for one thing.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Well, I mean, one of those two sylvari under the bridge in LA had a sense of lust for a norn male:
“did you see what she was wearing?”
“i was to busy looking at, him”

I was quite impressed by the conversation too, found it really funny. Also because the norn was… well, VERY norn. big, bulky, bearded. he would break that little sylvari O_O