Guild Wars 2

So I was then playing WvWvW, and these commanders were being really disrespectful, and kept running their mouths at me, all because I made a suggestion of how to do something differently.

Then everyone was abusing me(I don’t really care) so I didn’t report them for anything because it’s just a game blah blah blah ppl do that. So I swear back at him a few times and that gets me 72 hour ban apparently… My whole point is that I get all this stuff and swearing directed at me, and I don’t see swearing as a big deal, I am 23. So me not reporting them, means they got away with starting a big fight with me and finishing the fight, when all I did was tell the commander how to do something a different way that would have worked out better.

So I get punished for multiple people verbally abusing me, for using a part of the game that lets you use profanity, and to add insult to injury it’s a 72 hour ban(can’t log in or play at all), as opposed to what other games do is mute you for 72 hours. I don’t see the point in such an extreme ban on me because I defended myself while using profanity(a feature that is part of the game)….

So now you get banned for using profanity, even though you can toggle to see profanity, or not see profanity. I didn’t know I couldn’t do that. SWTOR, SWG, Warhammer, and Runescape have NEVER MUTED ME, for using the same language I used towards these people.

You just had to be there…

You could always get banned for profanity, first someone has to report you though. Obviously you got reported.

Think of the profanity filter as a safety net, it’s there in case you fall but you are not meant to fall. Just like the filter is there so people don’t have to listen to people run their mouths off but it doesn’t make it okay to run your mouth off.

Bluestone.7106:

You could always get banned for profanity, first someone has to report you though. Obviously you got reported.

Think of the profanity filter as a safety net, it’s there in case you fall but you are not meant to fall. Just like the filter is there so people don’t have to listen to people run their mouths off but it doesn’t make it okay to run your mouth off.

So they put a feature in the game and I am not allowed to use it?

It’s not that you’re not allowed to use the feature (the profanity filter), it’s that you appear to be misunderstanding the use of the feature.

It’s not there to allow you to use profanity (something you agreed not to do), it’s there to stop you seeing (hopefully) occasional profanity that others might post should you choose to enable the feature.

I’m in the same boat and I find it ridiculous. Does buying the game and “agreeing” to your legal terms allow you to become my surrogate mother? I am an adult, and as such I no longer need someone telling me what I am doing is right or wrong. I don’t find swearing a need for a ban, and those that do can feel free to use the profanity filter that Mommy Anet provided for ’em.

Dismay.4729:

I’m in the same boat and I find it ridiculous. Does buying the game and “agreeing” to your legal terms allow you to become my surrogate mother? I am an adult, and as such I no longer need someone telling me what I am doing is right or wrong. I don’t find swearing a need for a ban, and those that do can feel free to use the profanity filter that Mommy Anet provided for ’em.

Exactly, last time I checked this game was rated Teen.

“The ESRB has given Guild Wars 2 a “T for Teen” rating based on the game’s periodic vulgarity and “stylized blood effects.” This isn’t much of a surprise—the original Guild Wars also landed a “T” rating. The ESRB also listed “use of alcohol” as a factor in its decision, which I can only assume means getting loaded and grinding out some elementals will be one of my daily activities once the game launches.

Actually, the ESRB’s judgment makes Guild Wars 2 sound pretty cool:

“Players use swords, firearms, explosives, and magic attacks to battle soldiers and enemy creatures (e.g., minotaurs, giant insects, golems). Skirmishes depict enemies getting shot by arrows, slashed by swords, lit on fire, or struck down by lightning bolts; some underwater attacks result in blood-cloud effects, and stylized blood effects are sometimes depicted in cutscenes. Some sequence depict alcohol use: players can earn achievements by consuming alcoholic drinks—the screen appears blurry to denote drunkenness; in a “drinking competition” mini-game, characters drink ale from mugs—the sequence ends when a challenger’s health reaches zero.”

There is nothing about that paragraph I don’t like."

So why am I, a 23 year old being muted because a random 11 year old is reporting me for swearing in a game that ALLOWS swearing to be toggled on/off…

Because just because you can toggle it on or off does not mean abusing language in a hurtfull or mean way to or in fornt of others is automatically allowed in the game.

Also you only toggle a filter that might prevent you to see something that are not for your eyes, for example if you are easiely hurt by others sweraing at you or sth like that.

Leira.9702:

Because just because you can toggle it on or off does not mean abusing language in a hurtfull or mean way to or in fornt of others is automatically allowed in the game.

Also you only toggle a filter that might prevent you to see something that are not for your eyes, for example if you are easiely hurt by others sweraing at you or sth like that.

So how is it my fault if people get offended because I call them out on being a f-ing bad commander. Basically their whole guild was there and they all kept talking massive bs to me. So I say some stuff back and I never reported any of them, yet I get reported by a bunch of trolls who started it and finished it, and I’m the bad guy somehow…

Don’t punish me for some random idiots starting and finishing a fight with me. That’s adding a huge insult to injury. I get trolled by like 5 or 6 guild mates of his, so I respond(thinking I can talk without worry because profanity filter will block what I say for them if they have it on).

It’s not very logical for this to be the outcome, I get in trouble because 5 or 6 people decided to be kittens to me, and I offended them by swearing back(I didn’t report them because I hold no malice in my heart)…

But at the same time, I have played Warhammer, Runescape, SWG, SWTOR, and have never been muted or blocked for ANYTHING I ever said to anyone. I know for a fact I have raged out and cussed people out on those games(back when I was younger for warhammer, RS, and SWG) and never got banned because they could toggle profanity filter on and off..

Don’t put a feature in a game you want me to use, if you are going to ban me for 72 hours for using it…

If you got banned in accident you should point out in your ticket that those who reported you where those who kittenalked you and not the other way around. Im absolutely not saying you are the bad guy.

I know it wont calm your anger, which I really feel since i never liked peopele bein treated unfair, but it might be that those kiddies in fact get their ban as soon as your incidense was looked upon for abusing the report function and swearing.

Also: Even if you think the commander sucks bad, you stil lare able to choose to comment on it and how to do it. I try to stay positive most the time and therefore dont attack the person. Maybe they are still learning. Still i understand if you feel angry about bad commandmend in pvp since its quiete important.

same kind of thing happened to me recently, however i was just screwing around with a few friends, (as swearing comes somewhat naturally) and all of a sudden i find myself suspended for language, which was ludacris. it seems most people playing this game are adults, or older teens, so being suspended for something as pathetic as language is ridiculous, especially when those little kiddo’s, who arn’t adults, can just turn on their little filters and not have to see it.

anyhow, support will do nothing for you, i cant remember where but in the conduct or one of the others, it mentions that support will not do anything about supensions for stuff like that, and if you do send in a ticket, you will get a message back about them doing nothing and “having the chat logs”, the usual copy and past response to this.

Natsu Dragneel.1625:

same kind of thing happened to me recently, however i was just screwing around with a few friends, (as swearing comes somewhat naturally) and all of a sudden i find myself suspended for language, which was ludacris. it seems most people playing this game are adults, or older teens, so being suspended for something as pathetic as language is ridiculous, especially when those little kiddo’s, who arn’t adults, can just turn on their little filters and not have to see it.

anyhow, support will do nothing for you, i cant remember where but in the conduct or one of the others, it mentions that support will not do anything about supensions for stuff like that, and if you do send in a ticket, you will get a message back about them doing nothing and “having the chat logs”, the usual copy and past response to this.

Not to go off topic and leave room for yet another infraction by Anet, but you just made my day for spelling ludicrous like that xD

Whether the self-entitled people think they should be allowed to swear or not doesn’t matter. You agree to the terms of service when you created your account. If you don’t like risking a ban whenever you use foul language then stop playing. That is your only course of action if you do not like the terms.

Bluestone.7106:

Whether the self-entitled people think they should be allowed to swear or not doesn’t matter. You agree to the terms of service when you created your account. If you don’t like risking a ban whenever you use foul language then stop playing. That is your only course of action if you do not like the terms.

Did you like, even read what I typed?

Leira.9702:

If you got banned in accident you should point out in your ticket that those who reported you where those who kittenalked you and not the other way around. Im absolutely not saying you are the bad guy.

I know it wont calm your anger, which I really feel since i never liked peopele bein treated unfair, but it might be that those kiddies in fact get their ban as soon as your incidense was looked upon for abusing the report function and swearing.

Also: Even if you think the commander sucks bad, you stil lare able to choose to comment on it and how to do it. I try to stay positive most the time and therefore dont attack the person. Maybe they are still learning. Still i understand if you feel angry about bad commandmend in pvp since its quiete important.

I understand since this is over the internet, everyone equates “posting in a forum” = “angry”.

Simply not true. Plenty of other emotions, like I am confused as to why this happened, or baffled, indifferent(just got halo 4 so don’t care too too much).

Jason Segel.2908:

Bluestone.7106:

Whether the self-entitled people think they should be allowed to swear or not doesn’t matter. You agree to the terms of service when you created your account. If you don’t like risking a ban whenever you use foul language then stop playing. That is your only course of action if you do not like the terms.

Did you like, even read what I typed?

Yup. Anyone that wants to use foul language in GW2 does so at their own risk. If someone feels inclined to report you for it then theres a good chance you will get a short ban.

No sympathy for rule breakers.

Hate to break it to you, but the “Rules of Conduct” do not specifically forbid using foul language. This is what it says:

“1. While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated.”

What this means is that swearing is okay as long as you aren’t swearing at someone (aka “posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players”). Which is prolly what the OP did to get a ban.

A while back I made a funny comment that included the “F” bomb (it earned a few lols). Someone reported me (they said as much in map chat, anyway), but I never got banned because I wasn’t trying to insult or abuse another player.

Technically, you could get a ban and never use a single cuss word. All you have to do is be insulting, offensive, or abusive toward another player. Trust me…it is possible to do these things without swearing. It is just that most people don’t possess the vocabulary necessary and must resort to vulgar words.

PaleRider.2189:

Hate to break it to you, but the “Rules of Conduct” do not specifically forbid using foul language. This is what it says:

They also say:

“3. You may not create character names or otherwise transmit, post, link to or facilitate the distribution of any sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, infringing, obscene, hateful, vulgar, racially or ethnically offensive, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, or objectionable in a reasonable person’s view imagery or content.”

In addition:

Guild Wars 2 Conduct Breaches & Outcomes
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-conduct-breaches-outcomes/

“The Rules cover such basic expectations as:

Don’t swear or spam or break any laws."

Kinda wish the Rules of Conduct were written in as clear and direct a manner but I suppose “legalese” is required there.

So swearing ingame is a risk. If you do get punished for it it’s not the fault of the person reporting it. It’s not the fault of someone wanting to be a “surrogate mother”. It’s the person’s swearing thought. It’s not essential for adults to swear during a conversation to make a point.

It’s likely they have internal guidelines so that some swearing is treated more harshly (at a guess going by other games the channel used could have some impact as well as what’s said, if it’s aimed at anyone and if it’s just a one-off say during a fight with a world boss or if it’s a repeated again and again).

I doubt ArenaNet is going to care about a few swear words, as long as they are not directed at somebody, or their nationality, race, or religion. This is common sense.

I’d agree that this isn’t so much about the fact that you were swearing.. it’s more that you were most likely abusing other players through chat channels. Also, Anet would investigate the chat logs before placing a suspension on an account.

StarsLife.7320:

I’d agree that this isn’t so much about the fact that you were swearing.. it’s more that you were most likely abusing other players through chat channels. Also, Anet would investigate the chat logs before placing a suspension on an account.

It is kind of backwards though. I just told the commander he was being stupid and he jumped down my throat with his guild mates(and a few other commanders).

Then everyone was abusing me(I don’t really care) so I didn’t report them for anything because it’s just a game blah blah blah ppl do that. So I swear back at him a few times and that gets me 72 hour ban apparently… My whole point is that I get all this stuff and swearing directed at me, and I don’t see swearing as a big deal, I am 23. So me not reporting them, means they got away with starting a big fight with me and finishing the fight, when all I did was tell the commander how to do something a different way that would have worked out better.

So I get punished for multiple people verbally abusing me, for using a part of the game that lets you use profanity, and to add insult to injury it’s a 72 hour ban(can’t log in or play at all), as opposed to what other games do is mute you for 72 hours. I don’t see the point in such an extreme ban on me because I defended myself while using profanity(a feature that is part of the game)….