Guild Wars 2

Hamfast.8719:

First post was 7 months ago. Could we please have an update on this?

Who is good using Google to dig up old forum posts? I would dearly love to see the thread where someone reported this as a “bug”. It can’t be nearly as big as all the threads calling for their return.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lwd/Default-Character-Animations-Spoil-It-All

There you go.

Gaile Gray said this 6 months ago

Soooo sorry! I asked about this and forgot to post!
Some time ago, it was noticed and reported as a “bug” that during cinematics, the “fidget” animations continued. So you’re seeing this exciting story bit about a dragon attack and, behind the scenes, your character is yawning and toeing the sand. It just didn’t fit.
So the animations were temporarily removed to be worked on and reincorporated in a way that allowed them to perform normally in the game but to stop (or maybe change) during cinematics. But getting to a place where the animations could be configured on a more fine-grained basis took more time than anticipated.
From what I understand, the team has the tools to reconfigure and re-enable the animations, but the team lead told me that naturally they’ll need to figure out when someone (or maybe more than one person) can be assigned the task. As it turns out, each animation bit needs to be reconfigured individually.
TL;dr: This change is coming, as soon as it can be scheduled and prioritized. Naturally, some matters that are higher on the priority list but this project will be scheduled as appropriate

But hopefully still being fixed, maybe another update soon

Can we get something like a “we are working on it, we’ll be fixed”?

kolompi.1287:

Can we get something like a “we are working on it, we’ll be fixed”?

Why? So they can procrastinate again? What we want to hear is: “We will add the animation back in the next patch!”. Not something that just gives them another excuse to ignore it…

These idles were removed because a large majority of players, myself included, were mortified at the player’s character showing such weak will by stretching before deliberately kicking a bunch of innocent pebbles and rocks.

It’s pretty crazy that we haven’t heard about this or it hasn’t been fixed. It’s 2015, how hard would it be to code the game to just play certain animations in a cutscene? They could just use the standing animation from the face to face personal story sections even, while having all the idles be out in the open world/combat areas. We’ll never get these back, and our chars will just brush their hair away forever.

serenke.4806 on my previous post:

Because it has been classified as a bug for this very reason. It’s basically buried in here and it is being dealt with when there are enough resources.

That’s not the point. From my point of view, the current state of NOT having the idle animation – alledgedly to solve some cutscene issues – is a bug and I do not care when they solve the cutscenes issue AFTER they REESTABLISH the IDLE ANIMATIONS as they were.

Can this please be fixed with, or soon after, Heart of Thorns? Please?

I found a funny old screenshot of it.

Oh the memories. Still waiting.

That is a nice memory, DarkWasp. I still miss these.

Is this a hard to fix bug, I don’t mind loosing these animations for good, but could we at least get more than one?

Anet can we please get some info on this? It’s been a long time since it “being looked into”.

As i understood it, this will be fixed in a spectacular way by separating cutscene animations and open world ones, whenever there is enough manpower to fix it as it is not a priority.

Now HoT will have no cutscenes but in-game dialogues and animations to go with it… Can we please have these idle animations back? Since it won’t even hurt anybody in cutscenes anymore.

Good day. May i ask if we’ll ever get these animations back?

Thank You.

serenke.4806:

Good day. May i ask if we’ll ever get these animations back?

Thank You.

Goodluck, and don’t get your hopes up. I just asked for an update 14 days ago, and throughout the thread many many many others have asked for info on this problem as well. 9 months ago, 9 months since this has been reported. They don’t care, they’ll just keep taking away from our chars til just they just stand there with no effects and no animations and making no sounds (see them removing falling screams from all characters).

Bring it back plz

So i’ve been thinking. The quaggan tonic transforms can jump and dodge now. And when i checked how the little guys look while jumping, i realized that they are having buckets of fun while in the air (they have a huge smile and look happy all-around).
Someone at Arenanet designed that with a lot of love and care, probably wanting to give players something to smile about (similar to the jumping quaggans).
Can we get some of the same developer care for our animations? It does not have to be a super-awesome solution like the jumping and dodging quaggan but something more than looking left and then right.

Thanks.

serenke.4806:

So i’ve been thinking. The quaggan tonic transforms can jump and dodge now. And when i checked how the little guys look while jumping, i realized that they are having buckets of fun while in the air (they have a huge smile and look happy all-around).
Someone at Arenanet designed that with a lot of love and care, probably wanting to give players something to smile about (similar to the jumping quaggans).
Can we get some of the same developer care for our animations? It does not have to be a super-awesome solution like the jumping and dodging quaggan but something more than looking left and then right.

Thanks.

It doesn’t have to even be anything new. Just put the old ones back in already.

Anet please! :< Just put them back for players and disable for NPCs.

After using a little google magic, im going to copy/paste what i just posted in general.

I’m just going to leave this here…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/human-female-idle-animations-are-missing/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Human-female-idle-animations
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Human-female-idle-animation
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Female-human-only-has-1-animation-now/page/7#post5153947
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Please-Address-the-Female-Human-Animation
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/It-s-been-a-long-time-1/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Want-the-human-female-animations-back
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Want-the-human-female-animations-back-Part-2
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Please-Address-the-Female-Human-Animation/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Will-Human-Female-running-animation-return
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Bring-back-Stretch-Animations

pls fixit 2k15

I do kinda miss these animations…They were fun for taking cool screenshots of your character, and just help keep your character feeling alive. After playing the game for several years, things start to get stale and I mean this is just a little thing but c’mon. I’ve been with my main for a long time and you get attached to your characters. It’s nice when you’re standing around chatting or crafting or selling stuff to see your character moving a bit and looking like she’s a person in a world, and not just a stick standing there.

Can we finally get them back ?? It’s been 9 months.. or will excuse this time be HoT? Codes are there, they just need to be put back. Gaile said everything is ready but person needs to be assigned to do it… how did that not happen in 9 months.

serenke.4806:

Hamfast.8719:

First post was 7 months ago. Could we please have an update on this?

Who is good using Google to dig up old forum posts? I would dearly love to see the thread where someone reported this as a “bug”. It can’t be nearly as big as all the threads calling for their return.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lwd/Default-Character-Animations-Spoil-It-All

There you go.

sigh A topic that doesn’t even have a second page is enough to remove something obviously wanted back by this massive topic? I don’t understand how this has been ignored. I have 5 human female characters, 1 male asuran, 1 female norn, and a female sylvari. I really miss these animations… the Female Sylvari carelessly swinging her dangling arms around with a grin on her face doesn’t ruin muh immersion? That is only one example of the main other race animations that wouldn’t fit the situation. Please bring these back… Personal Story and Living World are only a small fraction of this game’s playable content.

yeah, my rage meter is starting to climb, this and Hall of Monument. I have heard if dragging your feet, but this is getting out of hand.

We still miss these Anet and we wish you cared.

Anet has let this bug persist for almost a year now… can we at least expect a fix before HoT? T_T

Phantom Master.9582:

Anet has let this bug persist for almost a year now… can we at least expect a fix before HoT? T_T

Can we even expect a fix after the release of Heart of Thorns?
And if so, will they finally fix the human females’ animations completely?

AllNightPlayer.1286:

Phantom Master.9582:

Anet has let this bug persist for almost a year now… can we at least expect a fix before HoT? T_T

Can we even expect a fix after the release of Heart of Thorns?
And if so, will they finally fix the human females’ animations completely?

I was honestly not a fan of the old running animation, it looked very feminine/silly while not really matching the ’’heroes’’ our characters are suppose to be, not that a girly animation is wrong, its just that the current animation caters to a wider variety of the players’s possible personalities.

Not getting our old animations would suck, but what really bothers me is the fact that we only have one…. ONE!! of these animations left on the most played race in the game! And we’ve had just ONE for 10 months now, with no advances on fixing this…

If the devs truly believes the gestures we’re too feminine or ’’hot’’, then please give us new ones. :<

Hamfast.8719:

The “official” reason for removal of the female human idle animations was that some players complained they were “immersion breaking” during some cut scenes (especially certain NPC death scenes, when the mood was supposed to be sad).

Death scenes represent only a tiny fraction of cut scenes. Cut scenes represent only a tiny fraction of our online play. So why completely remove these animations from the entire game when it only affects a minuscule portion of it? This response was entirely out of proportion to the perceived problem.

And what about my feelings of immersion? I am usually bored to tears when the cut scene soap opera is playing. My female human was perfectly expressing my feelings whenever she stretched or shuffled the dirt at her feet.

And what about the other races? The Asura crack their knuckles and scratch their heads. Norn males stretch and smack their fist into their palm. Charr flex their claws. My female Sylvari waves her arms about and gives a great big grin. Do these animations have any place in those rarely-seen death scenes?

Please restore these animations to the game! I guarantee that more people miss them than cried about seeing them in cut scenes. Fix them whenever you have the time, if you think it’s such a big issue. But please restore them to us in the meantime.

Well said! Having this bug left in this game unfixed for nearly a year now makes me believe an Arenanet employee did this intentionally.

To be honest, I am pretty glad these animations are gone. I found them annoying as hell. Seeing females in heavy or even medium armor doing these … things … it just broke my immersion – big time. I didn’t even wanted to see the animations on my light armor character, because it doesn’t fit her one single bit. She is a tough girl, not some sort of a … chicken, scratching with her feet to find some corn in the sand … blagh …

I sincerely hope they’ll never come back. However, this would be the perfect opportunity for Arenanet to give us options. Why not sell different animation sets in the Gem Store? Or how about putting them into some achievements? I’d very much like to see this.

Natsu.2589:

To be honest, I am pretty glad these animations are gone. I found them annoying as hell. Seeing females in heavy or even medium armor doing these … things … it just broke my immersion – big time. I didn’t even wanted to see the animations on my light armor character, because it doesn’t fit her one single bit. She is a tough girl, not some sort of a … chicken, scratching with her feet to find some corn in the sand … blagh …

But this is, what it is/was to play a Human female. It comes with the race and gender — like the voice over. If you are happy, that you character is just brushing its hair constantly, you can play a Norn female. If you love to run on four-legs, you play a Charr. You love to see your character jumping around in combat, play an Asura.

ignore this—-

Natsu.2589:

To be honest, I am pretty glad these animations are gone. I found them annoying as hell. Seeing females in heavy or even medium armor doing these … things … it just broke my immersion – big time. I didn’t even wanted to see the animations on my light armor character, because it doesn’t fit her one single bit. She is a tough girl, not some sort of a … chicken, scratching with her feet to find some corn in the sand … blagh …

I sincerely hope they’ll never come back. However, this would be the perfect opportunity for Arenanet to give us options. Why not sell different animation sets in the Gem Store? Or how about putting them into some achievements? I’d very much like to see this.

(Animation 1): (Dirt shuffle) I also find myself kicking rocks and dirt when bored of waiting, what’s wrong with that?

(Animation 2): (Stretching) Is it taboo for women to stretch or what nowadays? I’m a dude and I stretch at least 5 times a day, do people think stretching means being feminine or weak? Hell naw

(Animation 3): (Standing Straight and messing with hair) Hopefully fixing your hair is not considered taboo now, I do put on hair Jel every morning it requires me to stand straight and mess with my hair until I get results. Does that make me girly?

(Animation 4): (Both Hands on hips) Often seen as body language indicating a dominance over the situation, it makes you look bigger. The only problem I had with this one, is that the girl would stick her butt outward and bust forward when doing it, which was definitely very feminine/sassy. If they could change it to the girl standing straight instead, it would be much better.

(Animation 5): (Single hand on hip) I particularly hated this one, it looked beyond girly and made me feel like my character was a ‘’insert word for female dog here’‘. If they could re-purpose this as a serious crossed arms animation or something, I’d love that.

Natsu.2589:

To be honest, I am pretty glad these animations are gone. I found them annoying as hell. Seeing females in heavy or even medium armor doing these … things … it just broke my immersion – big time. I didn’t even wanted to see the animations on my light armor character, because it doesn’t fit her one single bit. She is a tough girl, not some sort of a … chicken, scratching with her feet to find some corn in the sand … blagh …

I sincerely hope they’ll never come back. However, this would be the perfect opportunity for Arenanet to give us options. Why not sell different animation sets in the Gem Store? Or how about putting them into some achievements? I’d very much like to see this.

This is the part that is confusing to me. I totally respect your point of view, and where you are coming from. You seem to totally respect the idea of people liking them. We’re both happy to make sure we each get what we want.

Why is the answer always to do something like this one way or another, rather than making ‘everything’ available, and…bonus…[drum roll]… monetizing it. Seems like a no brainer.

Nivessa.4258:

They don’t care, they’ll just keep taking away from our chars til just they just stand there with no effects and no animations and making no sounds (see them removing falling screams from all characters).

Sadly, this seems to be the case. Their reasoning for removing falling screams made them seem very inept or just flat out lazy.

Dark Jericho.8609:

Nivessa.4258:

They don’t care, they’ll just keep taking away from our chars til just they just stand there with no effects and no animations and making no sounds (see them removing falling screams from all characters).

Sadly, this seems to be the case. Their reasoning for removing falling screams made them seem very inept or just flat out lazy.

I haven’t noticed until recently, but now that I know, I actually feel a bit sad about this. It really does make you feel like content is being removed without being replaced, if we could get word or anything about what they’re trying to do by removing so many animations/sounds. But they remain silent…

I’m pretty sure that this won’t ever be fixed or changed. Character customization is apparently not part of a “living, breathing online world” or a theme park mmo.

serenke.4806:

I’m pretty sure that this won’t ever be fixed or changed. Character customization is apparently not part of a “living, breathing online world” or a theme park mmo.

I would likely still be hypocrite enough to buy extra animations on the black lion store, even if it was ridiculous like 1000 to 1600gems(if thats what it takes). My character feels dead now. :<

I don’t want to be angry at Anet, they probably don’t have the time since they’re busy working on more game-breaking things, the HoM bug was a huge thing, and now its recently fixed which is a huge breath of fresh air and hope. Their bug-fixing priority right now is most likely working on HoT, probably helping with the programming.

Even if the forum devs were to insist that the team work on fixing this ’’bug’’(I’m skeptical if it is), they probably don’t having enough power to change the priority. And since they aren’t allowed to reveal false info or even most info, they end up just being silent because they can’t do anything about it.

Though it would be extremely fun if we could get some info, if this is actually still planned on getting fixed.

Conner.5803:

We still want it back

Utterly pathetic of Anet to not even give an update on one of their playerbase’s biggest topics. I love this game, but Anet is handling it sooooooo poorly.

ViolentOyster.7534:

Utterly pathetic of Anet to not even give an update on one of their playerbase’s biggest topics. I love this game, but Anet is handling it sooooooo poorly.

I would be happy with just an update on the situation of these Idle animations. Can any dev in here give us info? :<

Phantom Master.9582:

ViolentOyster.7534:

Utterly pathetic of Anet to not even give an update on one of their playerbase’s biggest topics. I love this game, but Anet is handling it sooooooo poorly.

I would be happy with just an update on the situation of these Idle animations. Can any dev in here give us info? :<

Their excuse would just be “We’re working on HoT”, which is really getting old, they don’t have all 300 devs working on HoT, plus Gaile said that they HAVE tool and everything to put it back in the game but person is not assigned to do it. That’s just crazy. It’s funny how when GW2 was about to launch, Anet was so proud to have many animations and uniqueness and 2 years later they started removing it all .. now we’re close to 3 years and it’s pretty much all gone with no words why.. only their excuse “HoT”. It used to be “we’re working on China GW” now is “HoT” .. I wonder what’s next.

I don’t get how come that a person is assigned to make quaggan jumps and dodges, dance for devourer and karka tonic but can’t add animations for human? Animations that already exist, while the ones for quaggan, karka and devourer had to be made from scratch, so surely they have time, they just like to listen to few people rather than the many.

To be fair they were really smart and never promised to bring these animations back. So whatever we write here is basically pointless.

Turning it off was a priority since woodenpotatoes mentioned it in one of his youtube videos i guess. Maybe we should recruit him to mention how wooden idle human female chars look. On the other hand, he is called wooden… so maybe he prefers it this way.

With the flood of players coming back for HoT, it is VERY likely that female humans having just 1 idle animation will be noticed.

If they discover that this hasn’t been fixed for 10 months (Likely 16months at HoT release), they might assume gw2’s bugfix quality standards to be bottom barrel. Which I’m starting to believe they are.

I would honestly leave a new MMO if I saw such and obvious bug unaddressed for so long. My immersion has been dead for so long because of this bug.

Gotta say, really sad about animations just going missing and being told its a ‘bug’, but then just not having it fixed. I am now wondering how hard it is for this one to be fixed and bring happiness to these sad players.

My, my. Changing or removing ingame animations for the worse, is really ArenaNet’s strength.

The list:
First they changed/bugged the female running animation.
Then they broke the warriors’ sword auto-attack chain.
Then they removed the Norn males’ bow animation, so they have to use the females’ shoot animation now (looks good by the way (-.-)).
Then they changed the Norn males’ GS animation (although the auto-attack (ranger) looks much cooler now), but the throw animation has been screwed up completely.
Then they removed the Human females’ idle animations.
Then they changed the necromancers’ axe animation.

And I am afraid that the list will get even longer by the time.

What I’m trying to say is that I do not think, they will ever admit, that all these changes were uncalled by the community and have to be reversed.

AllNightPlayer.1286:

Snip.

They probably aren’t admitting these changes being unintentional because they probably don’t want to bother easily coding already existing animations back into the game.

Apparently we loyal/supporting Guild Wars 2 fans don’t deserve even that. We can only hope at this point.

Bump because we deserve at the very least an update on this. Gaile said said it was in the backlog many months ago…
Perhaps this is irritating me more than it should, but i definitely am not the only one.

Taygus.4571:

could it be to minimise server load with the mini change? as everyone and their dog is running with a mini?

That doesnt affect the server. animations you see only affect your computer. Thats why they can put an animation option in the options menu.

You could literally run around in a T pose on your screen and you would look normal to other players with normal animations.

And still no update.

So many aspects of this game being broken are being buried in endless and unanswered forum postings.