Guild Wars 2

FrostSpectre.4198:

I think there were some problems with the animations.

The shoulders would pretty much dislocate or sink into the torso during the stretching animation and look awful…

That is definitely not the case here.

Briiing them back!

I would like to believe them and not give up hope, but relegating this to the trash bin of “bugs” isn’t a good sign.

Four-Step Program to remove content from a game.

Step One: Remove specific content from the game without warning.
Step Two: Wait until people start to talk about it then call it a bug.
Step Three: Put another bug file in the “not a priority” folder.
Step Four: Wait some more and people will forget all about it.

Congratulations! You have successfully taken content out of the game and screwed over many customers without them even realizing it once again! Buy yourself a beer, ANet. You’ve done a great job perfecting this avoidance policy.

Exactly my point. Good job Anet.

DarkOcean.8746:

Niteraven.1372:

Well I wouldn’t hold my breath. Eventually everyone will get used to it, this thread will die and it will be over.

I won’t get used to it.

It’s, unfortunately, probably true. Just like the running animation.

Soon, my characters will just be shipping boxes, that slide around and have no animations, can’t wear clothes, just a box.

Mark Katzbach.9084:

This bug has been reported and is currently under investigation. Thanks for your reports, everybody.

Mark is with “Community Special Operations”. That sounds like a dark and mysterious branch of “problem-solvers” to me. Your analysis may be spot-on.

But I’ll keep trying. Hell, I still jab at them periodically to do something about restoring Town Clothes in some fashion (as Outfits or armor). I won’t let them sweep their messes completely under the rug! …Unless this CSO branch is a more powerful covert entity than I realize, in which case… (shudder!)

So let me get this straight, the human female only has 1 animation after this “bug” while other races and genders are relatively untouched?

That is correct. What I want to know is WHY its gone. This smells funny to me.

Nifaea.9216:

So let me get this straight, the human female only has 1 animation after this “bug” while other races and genders are relatively untouched?

They have constantly screwed with human females in general. Screwing with armour textures, the running animation, and now the idles. Soon the human female will just be a human male or gender neutral.

Absolutely RIDICULOUS. The feminine animations and look was what made it initially so popular and they keep trying to TAKE THAT AWAY.

Whatever. If this isn’t fixed before Halloween or so I’m uninstalling this game. I don’t need to spend heavily on their Halloween stuff they’ll release when they treat the game and its player base like this. This bug has been here for almost a month now. I’m tired of being stomped on because I like town clothing, socializing, costume brawl, and other activities that involve ‘stopping to smell the roses’. The only players they seem to want are the ones that will chase grindy content and buy hundreds of gems.

Nifaea.9216:

So let me get this straight, the human female only has 1 animation after this “bug” while other races and genders are relatively untouched?

They replaced 2 unique idle animations with a recycled one from the female norn.
But they also removed the sword throw idle animation on human/sylvari male.
And do not forget about the kittened up running animation, which is in the game since “Tower of Nightmares”. Or the female longbow animation on male norn since “Edge of the Mists”. :-)

OmaiGodman.2098:

I just checked and it seems to be true, my female human characters only look around a bit, and occasionally brush their hair aside.

I understand that it made some shoulderpieces clip with the head but frankly, I never cared about that

thats actually what Norn females do, seems like all females except Sylvari and Asura do it.

AllNightPlayer.1286:

Nifaea.9216:

So let me get this straight, the human female only has 1 animation after this “bug” while other races and genders are relatively untouched?

They replaced 2 unique idle animations with a recycled one from the female norn.
But they also removed the sword throw idle animation on human/sylvari male.
And do not forget about the kittened up running animation, which is in the game since “Tower of Nightmares”. Or the female longbow animation on male norn since “Edge of the Mists”. :-)

I don’t understand how they can keep butchering animations like this.

Also the female sitting animation was slightly altered a long time ago. She used to move her finger on her thigh but they took that out. This game was better during beta…

They can get away with it because they simply ignore us and throw the whole thread into the bug bin.

Niteraven.1372:

They can get away with it because they simply ignore us and throw the whole thread into the bug bin.

^^^ Is there a single person who would be surprised? ;D

From what I noticed of the pvp chinese tournament on twitch, the human females on their client also don’t have the other idles.

I come to the conclusion that when Anet changed the western client to the chinese one code-wise last feature patch, either they didn’t bother fine tuning the little details like this one or didn’t want to, for parity.

So it’s not really a bug, it’s disabled. But I hope it will be changed for our version of the game.

that is really not cool, they shouldn’t take stuff away from us i mean they can give but they rly shouldn’t take, it’s a waste of their efforts and time put into creating those things in the first place

I had to look at this in-game to believe it.. I for one rarely play humans but I have a female and she’s a warrior. The ‘missing’ idle animations from what I remember consisted of her stretching up, appearing all ditsy in la-la land with the fairies or something of like which seemed totally off-putting for a woman clad in heavy armor. Not only that but it had quite the number of clipping involved, that shoulder armor. Ouch.

I’m actually half glad those are gone, missing, whatever you wish to call it but I do understand other’s when it comes to ‘dumbing down’ or making things apparently ‘less sexual’ and neglecting to replace said animations with acceptable, updated ones.

Hopefully ANet will implement something fresh, new, decent.

I view it as a deliberate deletion.

There was no reason to remove the animation, and so there is no reason for them to not put it back in the game.

there’s 4 pages of replies about one kitten animation and no one cares about game breaking bugs
keep it up

Plesniak.5273:

there’s 4 pages of replies about one kitten animation and no one cares about game breaking bugs
keep it up

Gamebreaking enough for me not to waist my time on a product that incrementally removes all the things and then some that initially attracted me to it.

Plesniak.5273:

there’s 4 pages of replies about one kitten animation and no one cares about game breaking bugs
keep it up

Thanks, I think I will.

Good morning bug people!

Any update on the “investigation”, Anet?

Good morning! Oh I feel so stiff, how I wish I could stretch, but some odd reason I do not seem to be able to!

so uh here we are a month later, whys this so hard to fix?

ThaOwner.7560:

so uh here we are a month later, whys this so hard to fix?

Lost in the bureaucracy. Who knows.

There’s a gnat in flying around my eye and it won’t go away!
…
What’s this? It’s carrying a tiny gnat — sized sign? What could it possibly say? Eat more chicken, perhaps?
Nay! It says “Bran’ bek uman femile mations!”
How about that.

getting stiffer and stiffer.. need to stretch! but can’t.

They still haven’t fixed this?! Come on, Arenanet!

Please oh please let this be fixed with tomorrow’s patch!

They’re too busy making things to sell at the gem store. I guess that is where my vote will go. I really wanted one of the Halloween costumes too. Too bad.

Let’s see, if they managed to fix the animation bugs. Although I would like to see the fixed, old and feminine running animation more than the idle animations.

AllNightPlayer.1286:

Let’s see, if they managed to fix the animation bugs. Although I would like to see the fixed, old and feminine running animation more than the idle animations.

Would be more than nice if they DID…

Niteraven.1372:

They’re too busy making things to sell at the gem store.

Actually, I’ve suggested they can accomplish both.

The old running animation? Idle animations? Make them something you can ‘choose’ for yourself and your own characters, and people that don’t like them can ‘choose’ what best fits their characters, and everyone is happy. Make them accessible with a full make over kit. Create more types (limping walk, other idle animations, emote packs).

Unless, it’s solving a problem by ‘not’ allowing some of us to have the choices and options we want? I’m confused as why the pendulum would need to swing like that, resulting in a ‘new’ intolerance, rather than stabilizing it and providing choices and options for everyone?

Guess the planet is telling me I’m no longer welcome. May have to take it up on that offer.

Yet another Update, and yet again my Human is standing there like a plank except for occasionally fiddling with her hair.

I’m coming to the opinion that the idles were removed intentionally, for Chinese-release reasons passing understanding, and they’re lying through their teeth about recognising it as a bug and addressing it.

Sgloomi.4103:

Yet another Update, and yet again my Human is standing there like a plank except for occasionally fiddling with her hair.

I’m coming to the opinion that the idles were removed intentionally, for Chinese-release reasons passing understanding, and they’re lying through their teeth about recognising it as a bug and addressing it.

I think you hit the nail right on the head. Its either that or the “new player experience”.

Well the patch is here, vote with your wallets if you don’t agree with this change.

What a surprise.

I guess I won’t bother to log in for another month+ at this rate since this appears to be intentional as I thought it might be right from the beginning. There’s no way it was a mistake.

If neutering characters is their objective then I want no part of it.

… This isn’t going to be fixed any time soon.

Da*nit, A-Net. Get your things together! It’s a serious thing, which you broke and have to be fixed. It’s not only about “idle animations” anymore. There are many animation bugs in this game now, which YOU introduced.

This is a bug. I don’t buy the conjecture that the “stretching” animation was too sexual for the Chinese audience or any of that nonsense. After all, the “hands on hips, kicking some dirt around” animation is also missing, and that’s completely inoffensive. (Unless you happen to be the dirt in question.)

Give them a wee bit more time, but keep this on page one. Squeaky wheel, y’know.

Hamfast.8719:

This is a bug. I don’t buy the conjecture that the “stretching” animation was too sexual for the Chinese audience or any of that nonsense. After all, the “hands on hips, kicking some dirt around” animation is also missing, and that’s completely inoffensive. (Unless you happen to be the dirt in question.)

Give them a wee bit more time, but keep this on page one. Squeaky wheel, y’know.

I truly hope you’re right. I HATE making a pain of myself, but if we let this go then its just “gone”… even though they probably never look at these posts.

It might have been too sexy for the American audience. Remember the “uh huh” woman’s voice in Divinity Reach? Some kitten complained so they got rid of it, and it was just a voice.

Neko Dudley.2495:

It might have been too sexy for the American audience. Remember the “uh huh” woman’s voice in Divinity Reach? Some kitten complained so they got rid of it, and it was just a voice.

That really kittenes me off. ANet needs to stop kowtowing to ridiculous pressure. It’s not even about sexiness or the American audience, it’s about neutering femininity and ironically it’s thanks to Feminists that that happens.

Anet developers put a lot of effort into making the human females seem like human females, as much as they could with the technology they had available. I think they did an excellent job of it. So, to be totally fair, I’m sure the animation thing really is a bug.

The people who are trying to neuter females, in games and IRL, are not feminists even though they call themselves that. Those people are enraged by the natural phenomena of gender dimorphism, and tend to be rabidly anti-woman.

Neko Dudley.2495:

Anet developers put a lot of effort into making the human females seem like human females, as much as they could with the technology they had available. I think they did an excellent job of it. So, to be totally fair, I’m sure the animation thing really is a bug.

The people who are trying to neuter females, in games and IRL, are not feminists even though they call themselves that. Those people are enraged by the natural phenomena of gender dimorphism, and tend to be rabidly anti-woman.

The femininity of Human females is something I really adored about this game and the animations were a big part of that. Through thick and thin I could at least have those, but now that is gone too.

They need to retain quality control and get this looked at because so far there is no hint that it’s even on their to-do list.

What’s the age rating for this game again?

I’m pretty sure anyone they consider old enough to play (and pretend to kill, and pretend to drink alcohol, etc.) should also be old enough to see a woman stretch without being shocked at the incredibly flagrant in-your-face sexuality inherent in that wholly naughty action.