Heart and Minds [Final Story Step Bugs]

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

TexZero.7910

Just going to create a bullet point list of bugs/features whatever

- The Retry mote fails to fully reset the instance as Mordremoth attacks your allies
- The air vents just out right don’t work or become entirely unresponsive
- The “shield” does not protect you as stated it would
- (Do not have a repro for it) Caith can sometimes fail to become neutral state resulting in her kicking you around the instance (if not selected to accompany you in)
- Morde will park his body on the rifts

This is all i’ve run into for now. I’m sure there’s more that i’m missing.

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Posted by: Dream.2386

Dream.2386

- Floor wont get up on death
- throws rock in phase one
- can’t use glider
- get aoe damaged in the air (phase one)
- can’t get airborn on the vents.

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Posted by: Asudementio.8526

Asudementio.8526

Canach’s sheild doesn’t deploy and you cannot complete his segment of the pre-Mordremoth fights

*Mordremoth’s eye will sometimes not desummon between attempts and will attack players upon spawning in
*Mordemoth’s ariel phase attack will persist past death and kill the player on a follow up attempt
*Floor will not load properly causing rifts to be unusuable.

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Posted by: laquesis.6270

laquesis.6270

It took me more than 1 hour to finally kill Mordremoth. I died but my party member didn’t so he finished it. But since I was the one that started it I couldn’t get to “FInish Mordremoth” so … I will have to replay it idk how many more times .. I don’t think this is how it’s supposed to be, you should have a way to go back to where your team is fighting…

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Posted by: Saga of Ilthire.6315

Saga of Ilthire.6315

Experienced this:

- The Retry mote fails to fully reset the instance as Mordremoth attacks your allies
- The air vents just out right don’t work or become entirely unresponsive
- The “shield” does not protect you as stated it would
-The rift didn’t go away between Rytlock and Marjory after my first death
-Rocks didn’t seem to be dodgeable at all
-Hit an air vent that stopped me from moving forward and I just floated there
-Mordremoth’s attacking didn’t reset between instances

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Posted by: Slowpokeking.8720

Slowpokeking.8720

If the group leader dies, the story cannot progress after you kill Mordremoth because nobody could finish him off.

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Posted by: Saga of Ilthire.6315

Saga of Ilthire.6315

Just had the air vent not letting me move forward thing happen again. So it’s repeatable. If it’s of any use, I’m using the HoT preorder skin.

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Posted by: Barchiel.1547

Barchiel.1547

I was able to repeat the bug in which I could not activate my glider. I still don’t know what caused it. It happened on the second attack where gliding is necessary.

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Posted by: Cormac.3871

Cormac.3871

Bugs I have experienced against Mordremoth include:

Mordremoth’s skills do not reset (not sure if this is a bug)
Rift sometimes appears on inaccessible platform
Shelter does not work at all
Air vents fail about one time in three

I also had the bug where Mordrem- Canach becomes invincible in the previous fight of this story step.

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Posted by: Voldun Hel.3560

Voldun Hel.3560

In one of the groups I attempted this with one of our party members actually became hostile instead of the npcs spawning lol.

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Posted by: Barchiel.1547

Barchiel.1547

Replicated a bug in which getting hit by any rock during a flying phase causes you to lose the ability to move for the rest of the encounter.

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

Mallis.4295

Haven’t seen this posted here.

-Majory disappears when trying to pull her into the rift and you have to die or restart the whole instance.

Also no idea how to get in the air the ground is covered with particle effects and I can’t tell if there’s something special there.

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Posted by: Xion.5694

Xion.5694

To add one of mine – Blighted Pale Tree after failing and restarting the encounter is permamently immortal.

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

Mallis.4295

After being forced to restart the instance because of Majory bugging out I tried Canach which is extremely broken. When Blighted Canach his 25% he became invulnerable and Canach just sat in one spot using his shield over and over and nothing would happen no matter what I did.

EDIT: Killed myself to restart and Bllighted Canach has permanent invulnerability so I have to restart yet again. kitten .

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

Mallis.4295

Third attempt Canach in the Mord fight was immune to the rift and couldn’t be pulled.

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Posted by: Chuck.8196

Chuck.8196

Dropped out of Mid flight during 2nd flight sequence. could no longer deploy glider afterwards.
Mordrem Canach permanently invulnerable.
Canach not going down to give shield.

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Posted by: Distilled.9041

Distilled.9041

Just in the fight with Blighted Canach, he seems to have gone invulnerable permanently.
I brought Canach and Caithe with me into the dream, and when I spawned I was just with Canach and had to fight his blighted avatar.

At around 50% health Canach said that he would help by deflecting grenades, which he did for a while, but when the enemy reached 25% health the Blighted Canach went invulnerable and this time Canach did not say anything. I couldn’t work down the enemy defiance bar because he was invulnerable, and he did not seem to show any sign of becoming vulnerable again any time soon.

I continued dodging projectiles and healing for about 5/6minutes before logging out.

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Posted by: Doncpauli.4217

Doncpauli.4217

I’ve had an issue where the rift spawned in mid air, at a unreachable area, making it unable to complete. This did not always happen though, after using reset mode it sometimes worked fine.

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Posted by: Blood Toxin.5781

Blood Toxin.5781

I have the exact same issue right now too.

Update, Even after dying and retrying Blighted Canach is still “Determined” without a break bar so progress cannot be made.

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

RyuDragnier.9476

I had all these bugs as well. From what I can tell it will reset properly if you give it time to. However, because it doesn’t this can be abused in your favor if you’re at final phase. I accidentally died at final phase due to the dreaded thief skill queue with DB, and immediately re-entered. His defiance gauge was available to break and I broke it, instantly throwing me into final phase.

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Posted by: Klaugh.7415

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!https://imgur.com/UDy8XuJ!

Floor wasn’t there. Couldn’t get to the rift.

That, and THE VENTS FAIL ABOUT HALF THE TIME. I get “half-bounced” like the beginning animation of the Bouncing Mushrooms, I don’t get bounced at all, the glider won’t deploy, you name it.

Unbelievably frustrating.

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Posted by: Charming Rogue.8071

Charming Rogue.8071

I’m stuck on this story step and staying away from it. Wasted too much time on it with all the bugs. Let me know when the bugs are fixed ;_;

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Posted by: Vault Girl.6792

Vault Girl.6792

The same issue. He is invulnerable, and dying and starting the fight again doesn’t help.

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Posted by: Ithurien.3652

Ithurien.3652

Just ran into the Canach bugs, where he doesn’t drop his shield, and Evil Canach went totally immune on the next try.

What made it worse was that I’d already run through the mission last time around, beaten Mordremoth, got the “press F to vanquish dragon” prompt and was composing my victory speech in my mind … and a power outage rebooted my PC.

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Posted by: MrH.2591

MrH.2591

Well my gear is now broken and I can’t continue, so I’ve just wasted a lot of time because of this fight. He kept spawning rifts outside of the map so I couldn’t reach them.

PS: Make it so your gear doesn’t break while doing instanced story quests, it really sucks.

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Posted by: Terensz.5324

Terensz.5324

Not this bug is what is frustrating like hell. You are in a personal story in another story. What is I try again? After a hard 15 minutes Eir fight Canach-bug happens again? What is if I just WP out the story instance with that rotating spiral tree seasick thing? Can I ever go back there? Just leave this (main) char inside and watch the forum when they fixed the bug?

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Posted by: Nilix.2170

Nilix.2170

-Majory disappears when trying to pull her into the rift and you have to die or restart the whole instance.

I’ve pinpointed the reason behind this. All the minions that Mordremoth summons stop fighting at around 15 or 25% of their health. And then you channel on the Rift to bring them to your side. But if you kill them before you finish channeling them into the rift, they won’t switch sides and you will have no way to progress forward. I’m running Sinister Engineer and this is easily repeatable with the amount of burning I put out.

Should probably make it so that all their damaging conditions get cleansed when they get to that point.

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Posted by: Sikketh.1064

Sikketh.1064

At 25% health, Mordremoth became “immune to all damage except for the rifts”. My party was able to use a rift, which only took his break bar down to 25%. We were able to manually break him after pounding on him in frustration. Some attacks did damage (a whopping 3, though…) his immunity and/or the rifts don’t seem to be working as intended, OR if we are supposed to break his bar manually, it’s not made clear that we can/should do so.

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Posted by: Rajnesh.4526

Rajnesh.4526

With all those bugs at the moment it only depends on luck if you can defeat him or not.

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Posted by: ZerotheFang.5890

ZerotheFang.5890

this fight is buggy non soloable unless your class is set up for stuns or new armors, i had the stupid fight where the died cause stupid shield where npc where was on a jet kept blasting me up and i could not glide cause glider out of stamina or something ( guess need max glider mastery). 1 npc came over to revive died and i was insta sent to reset mote thing and rift as well as everything else was not reset so i had the middle section and nothing else. also canach ai seems off during the whole fight he would go to 1 side of the room run into the boss then walk back then sit there rest of time while i was fighting.

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Posted by: Vault Girl.6792

Vault Girl.6792

What is if I just WP out the story instance with that rotating spiral tree seasick thing? Can I ever go back there? Just leave this (main) char inside and watch the forum when they fixed the bug?

I logged out, entered the story again (I was still in the instance where you get after killing Faolain) and then chose Caithe instead of Canach. The boss is also easier to kill btw.

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Posted by: Bee.7081

Bee.7081

Same happened in our case with Canach. Then we tried with Caithe – however when we defeated the Blighted Pale Tree, and tried to activate the Reality Rift, nothing happened.

So stuck on that route too.

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Posted by: Kal Spiro.9745

Kal Spiro.9745

This isn’t a bug, you’re supposed to get Canach’s shield and actively deflect, using the 1 power, the stun grenade back at him. Once you do it enough to disable him you can finish the fight as normal.

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Posted by: rapthorne.7345

rapthorne.7345

can confirm this issue, happened 3 times in a row trying to complete it

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Posted by: rapthorne.7345

rapthorne.7345

This isn’t a bug, you’re supposed to get Canach’s shield and actively deflect, using the 1 power, the stun grenade back at him. Once you do it enough to disable him you can finish the fight as normal.

No shield drops

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Posted by: Bee.7081

Bee.7081

Yeah, you couldn’t interact with anything, except the adrenal mushrooms.

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Posted by: Eldon.6591

Eldon.6591

Having the exact same issue Bee. Canach bugs out at 25%, Pale tree bugs out at the rift. I was able to get to the main fight when in a party and it wasn’t my story instance. But due to gliding issues (and only the story starter being able to complete) we failed that attempt. Hopefully they fix this soon, otherwise your best bet is to try various parties and hope for the best. (I play a MM necromancer if that gives any clues)

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Posted by: Alot.1036

Alot.1036

I ran into the same bug; and when I tried to relog to restart the instance I was no longer able to login to my character.

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Posted by: Lis.6475

Lis.6475

Same bug here, only difference is that it only occurred after I died to him once.

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Posted by: alan.5863

alan.5863

Same problem. I couldn’t find a shield to interact with, nor could I “talk” to Canach in an attempt to possibly acquire his shield from him. The only interactables in that boss room are the mushrooms. I spent 20 minutes dodging grenades searching for a shield, trying to interact with him, everything.

When Blighted is at 25%, Canach doesn’t do anything except revive me when I go down.

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Posted by: Darkheron.6271

Darkheron.6271

Just happened to me so I’m guessing it’s not fixed.

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Posted by: Adric Alzar.6231

Adric Alzar.6231

I had this issue today, and ended up letting myself die, so I could try again. One thing I noticed in the first fight is that when Canach was just standing there (not using his shield), with the Blighted Canach stuck on invulnerable mode, his health was zero. I was on my Guardian/Dragonhunter and used Virtue of Resolve repeatedly to heal him, and he eventually started moving again, but never went back to use his shield.

When I did the second fight, I decided to actively heal Canach throughout the battle, just in case that was related somehow. I can’t say whether that is what did it, but the second time everything worked as normal.

Speculating here, but maybe Canach going to zero health is tied to some kind of bug in the code or routine where it “skipped” the shield deflect sequence, and then when I healed him and he began moving again, it was already “past” it. Dunno.

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Posted by: jazzllanna.1278

jazzllanna.1278

This is still bugged. Too bad too because I liked Canach and wanted to see that story line. I went through once and he did give me the shield but the bombs that I hit at the blighted Canach did not damage him so I let myself die so I could look up what I was doing wrong. I tried 2 times after that and he never gave me the shield again. He just stood off to the side shielding himself.

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Posted by: peter.2738

peter.2738

1st boss (Canach), well was nice, but killed it cause mesmer’s phantasm was still doing damage to him… but meh, whatever.

2nd boss (Pale tree) really awsome, liked it very much!

Mordremoth… easy gameplay, but holy kitten, lost countless tries cause “Reality rift” was in the air. Haven’t been so kittened for a while! https://i.imgur.com/XS6fGmD.jpg
Dear god arena net, you have to fix this ASAP.

I do not, I repeat, I do not want to even imagine what would happen if I got DCed at the 3rd boss. My heart stopped when the game lagged for a few seconds.
Anet, dunno if there was a checkpoint between bosses, but if It was not, please do not stack so much hard bosses in the same instance.

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Posted by: Nini.8941

Nini.8941

Is there any fix coming in the near future?

I have absolutely no desire to even try this fight again if the freaking rifts are going to spawn in mid air where it’s impossible to get to them.

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Posted by: Cormac.3871

Cormac.3871

Is there any fix coming in the near future?

I have absolutely no desire to even try this fight again if the freaking rifts are going to spawn in mid air where it’s impossible to get to them.

I got this bug and was about to try and suicide when I noticed that there was a second rift that I could get to. If you encounter this bug it is worth looking around for it.

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Posted by: Nini.8941

Nini.8941

Thank you very much for the tip, but I’m not doing that fight again until the bugs are fixed.

It’s a rather long fight and I do not want to do it all over again and just hope that there might be another rift there. And killing yourself in there takes ages (unless you do it in the glider part)

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Posted by: Drawing Guy.3701

Drawing Guy.3701

I ran into a bug while playing as a Sylvari with Canach and Caithe. In the second fight against the Pale Tree, I had the Pale Tree killed with a rift never showing up for the fight. Her damage rings and suicide mordremoth kept spawning, so I commit suicide. After committing suicide, I was simply put back in the Pale Tree fight with no Pale Tree. Had to restart the entire story mission, which the fight worked fine on the second try.

Probably not a bug, but I also found the Canach shield mechanic to be a useless waste of time. The volleyball match of bombs only to do a few K extremely sporadically vs just snapping his break bar and doing much more damage with your standard weapons. The end part of the fight took me 10 minutes trying to do it with Canach’s shield, and less than a minute just using my weapons. Either the last break bar needs to require the shield make the mechanic required, or the reflected bombs from the shield need to do 20k+ damage to make them worth it. I want to use his shield to make the defeat more thematic and rich, but as it stands, it sucks.

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Posted by: CKres.4589

CKres.4589

Bump for this. just wasted a lot of time for this fight.
The vents are unreliable in lifting you up and sometimes the glider just wouldn’t open. Still haven’t finish it as I have lost patience in trying to fight a buggy boss battle.

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Posted by: Cayenne.5341

Cayenne.5341

just wasted a lot of time because of a lot of bugs:

1. got the pale tree to 0% hp at which point she became invisible, untargettable with direct or aoe damage, kept damaging me, kept eating the sacrifices, nothing I can do to advance the fight.
2. I died , got back into the fight and the pale tree was just gone. I had to restart the instance.
3. mordremoth fight: the rift opens up mid air where I can not reach
4. mordremoth fight: I stand in the bubble but die anyway. I have to restart the fight, it happens again in the next attempt, what am I missing.
5. mordremoth fight: I have lost all willpower and give up in the first minute of the fight, when he is still doing his “massive aoe”: too much frustration, I stop every action and just stand there, letting him beat me up. His “massive aoe” that I had carefully avoided in previous attempts, can barely overcome my regeneration. It takes him a long time to kill me although I am not doing anything. That and his visiual appearance are really disappointing, I had imagined something more scary and impressive to be honest.
I loved the expansion up to this point, apart from the hero point requirements I was really happy. The second half of the story though is really weak. Quest steps that feel like they are only there to make the story feel longer. The “hearts and minds” then is so bad with all it’s bugs, i do not understand how it could have been released.