Guild Wars 2

This is a bug that appeared with the last patch, and is probably related with another bug described here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/In-Combat-bug

While in combat, in “normal” situations, you still get the little arrows over your bar to change the skills (even though you can’t change it). This is annoying because you then can’t know easily if you’re in combat or not.

But there’s another bug with this skill changing. When you’re morphed to another thing (like in ascalonian or thaumanova fractals, where you’re morphed to charr or asura), and enter combat, you don’t have the little arrows, even after the combat is over and you’re out of combat, so you can’t change your skills at all.

As you can see in the image, i’m out of combat, yet no arrows to change the skills. It’s the same on the Hero window, can’t change the skills that way either.

Remember to holster your weapon, it also affects the timer which takes you out of combat.

It doesn’t change a thing. I was out of combat in that screen, i could change my weapons if I wanted to, but not my utilities, heal or elite.

I saw this while doing the reactor level in fotm. Had to leave the instance to swap skills and when returning utility skills locked again. Could still change weapons.

FrostSpectre.4198:

Remember to holster your weapon, it also affects the timer which takes you out of combat.

Source on this?

I’ve never personally noticed any difference, nor anything to suggest this being true.

I personally stow weapons out of habit, both because it’s useful for stopping attacking, and because I primarily play Charr, and prefer running on all fours.

Halting your attacks does not make you leave combat any faster, so why would stowing?

I experienced this in Fractals also. The Charr Siege fractal would not allow me or anyone else change our skills once in the fractal but we could once out or in the next fractal.

Zorric.5704:

I experienced this in Fractals also. The Charr Siege fractal would not allow me or anyone else change our skills once in the fractal but we could once out or in the next fractal.

I would suggest that this might have something to do with ‘allied NPCs’ being considered ‘party members’, which would be a bug. Other than that, I would imagine that, PvE shares some kind of ‘cooldown’ with WvW OoC swaps in the light of new ‘balance’.

Eles using two elites one PvE might be a good place to start, but I’m not a Dev.

Tman.6349:

Zorric.5704:

I experienced this in Fractals also. The Charr Siege fractal would not allow me or anyone else change our skills once in the fractal but we could once out or in the next fractal.

I would suggest that this might have something to do with ‘allied NPCs’ being considered ‘party members’, which would be a bug. Other than that, I would imagine that, PvE shares some kind of ‘cooldown’ with WvW OoC swaps in the light of new ‘balance’.

Eles using two elites one PvE might be a good place to start, but I’m not a Dev.

It seems more logical to conclude that it’s related to the “transformations” that occur in those two fractals. In the Ascalon fractal, you take on a charr form, and in the thaumanova fractal you take on an asuran form. In both instances, it’s impossible to swap skills even when OOC. Once you move to a different fractal that doesn’t feature one of these “transformations”, the problem goes away.

I haven’t done the dolphin fractal in a long time, but it would perhaps occur there as well.

I think there used to be a similar bug in AC path 3 with the ghost form preventing you from swapping skills, but AFAIK that has been long since resolved and hasn’t come back.

Yamsandjams.3267:

Tman.6349:

Zorric.5704:

I experienced this in Fractals also. The Charr Siege fractal would not allow me or anyone else change our skills once in the fractal but we could once out or in the next fractal.

I would suggest that this might have something to do with ‘allied NPCs’ being considered ‘party members’, which would be a bug. Other than that, I would imagine that, PvE shares some kind of ‘cooldown’ with WvW OoC swaps in the light of new ‘balance’.

Eles using two elites one PvE might be a good place to start, but I’m not a Dev.

It seems more logical to conclude that it’s related to the “transformations” that occur in those two fractals. In the Ascalon fractal, you take on a charr form, and in the thaumanova fractal you take on an asuran form. In both instances, it’s impossible to swap skills even when OOC. Once you move to a different fractal that doesn’t feature one of these “transformations”, the problem goes away.

I haven’t done the dolphin fractal in a long time, but it would perhaps occur there as well.

I think there used to be a similar bug in AC path 3 with the ghost form preventing you from swapping skills, but AFAIK that has been long since resolved and hasn’t come back.

Tbh, I didn’t really think about Anets ‘crackdown’ on transformations, as my builds are pretty well established with 11 80s for different parts of the game. I think you might be somewhat/fully correct.

That bug got already posted/reported here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/out-of-Combat-bug/first#post4457703
May be a mod can merge them?

Tman.6349:

Zorric.5704:

I experienced this in Fractals also. The Charr Siege fractal would not allow me or anyone else change our skills once in the fractal but we could once out or in the next fractal.

This happen to us today in the Thaumnova Fractal. Also, during world boss runs we cannot change our skills when out of combat.

This bug happens in AC path 3 as well.

My guildies and I were unfortunate enough to roll both Ascalon fractal and Thaumanova in the same lv50 last night. Let’s just say there was a lot of porting back to LA.

I haven’t experienced these problems prior to the 30 Sept patch. Well, not for a loooong time, anyway.

+1
as sweetmesquite said, this also happens when doing AC p3…
Very annoying, the other day I wanted to change to my banners and couldn’t ’cause to the bug…

Did my research and played Ascalon Dungeon Path 3 and used a work around for not becoming a ghost. My skills could be switched but no one else could their skills(they were ghosts).

So it seems the transformations are the issue. :/

Edited for clarification.

This actually used to be an old bug, probably over a year ago now, where it almost always occured in the FOTM shard where you are transformed into a char. It seems they have broken it again. As others have pointed out you can only get around it by logging out and into LA to change skills before entering the shard again. However I’m not sure what is up with the AC p3 issue…

Also it would never occur in the underwater shard because you are given new skills as a Dolphin.

Lastly, has anyone noticed party members not being transformed? I bring this up because the old bug would sometimes have party members (or yourself if you were lucky) miss the transformation and then they would be able to switch skills while no one else could.

Just had this in Thaumanova. Was fun doing Reactor on 40 …. you had to go to LA to change skills. That’s pretty much another low.

it is happening to me anywhere I go, can’t tell when I’m out of combat to swap skills, very annoying.

The same thing happened to me today, twice. It’s definitely related to transformations.

I was exploring Caledon Forest on my Engineer, and it happened while doing “Help Elain clear the spider cave” and Disrupt the Nightmare Court at Briarthorn Den" hearts, both of which require some kind of transformation. The soultion is simple (for an Engineer) – I just had to click on the skills and the kit would pop out, and as soon as I did that the little arrows appeared and the utility skills could be changed. As I said, it’s simple for an Engineer since kits have no cooldowns, but I can only imagine how annoying it is for other classes with long CD utility skills…