Guild Wars 2

BassHunteR.7246:

I already faced it wont get fixed..
HoT comming.and along with that comes lots og new bugs yet to be discovered and reported..
And so devs gonna focus on the new stuff because it is “cool” and forget about old problems like this one..
It is bugged for 1 and a half year already.. so they figured we are already getting used to it.
The precursor horn is wayyyy cheaper than other precursors as well.. not because it is easy to be obtained.. but because of the state of the legendary horn itself..
So ghe whole community already adapted to this fact:
Legendary warhorn is just broken..
But still offers the easiest way to change stats and some unique effects, even if bad ones.. that is why it costs less then 50% of other precursors that actually works..

The cheapest are the Underwater precursors at under 100g each then the focus, then the torch then the mace. Howl is right up there in range with the other mid priced precursors so don’t tell me people don’t want to use it. Considering there are not a lot of good looking warhorns Howler is a top choice among people who use WH a lot. It was the deciding factor for me, that and the mist effect on my necro which works only half the time.

No one has accepted this as this thread has over 4 hundred replies and used to have over 15k views til they merged it. (Combined it probably had even more views) All it seems is that they really don’t care about the most dedicated users. The people who were willing to grind for a Legendary. This makes their whole pre launch manifesto a lie. This isn’t about players or this would be fixed.

Seems like our only hope for a fix to this bug comes with the legendary journey in HoT. If the different versions of the precursor weapons have their own unique looks depending on the stage of crafting, Howl could end up looking better than Howler.
I want to see these oft spoken tales of the wolf, the moon, and the mist come to life in the jungle.
In some form or another…gold, materials, time, tears….we’ve all paid for this. Please pay what you owe and fix this.

BTW I’ve also send the Devs direct messages besides in game tickets. All but Jason King as his inbox was full. I’ve asked them for a simple reply. I know we won’t be satisfied until they fix Howler but even a reply will reduce some of the bad feelings around here and give us hope that they are looking into it. Most of us are reasonable and know HoT is taking their energy right now and that fixing game play bugs take priority but a response would at least show they care about the players. I encourage everyone to do the same. Talk to any Dev you see anywhere and just ask for a response.

I’m pretty surprised something like this has gone so long without a fix. Legendaries are such a huge part of the game and its so sad to see something like this tossed out the window just like our old pal lupicus

Chaos.5072:

I’m pretty surprised something like this has gone so long without a fix. Legendaries are such a huge part of the game and its so sad to see something like this tossed out the window just like our old pal lupicus

Sad indeed. People who make Legendaries are some of the most committed to the game. Many of us took 2 or 3 years to make. That’s a lot of time an energy. Tears sweat and blood. I don’t think Howler just needs to be fixed but we should get compensation for this atrocity Hope a sympathetic ear(eye?) sees this thread someday.

It really does say something about a game i think when one of the only big things to strive for in an mmo has been broken for over a year.

Therodin.2970:

It really does say something about a game i think when one of the only big things to strive for in an mmo has been broken for over a year.

Not only broken but ignored. This thread is proof enough that this issue is effecting enough people to warrant some attention but not even one dev reply is horrible. “We’re busy with HoT but we’ll get to it sometime after” would be enough to at least show they care about their community of players..

They do care about players. Look: more legendary weapons even more awesome then the previous ones are coming! They just don’t care about this annoying Howler that SOME poeple love…

Since I just saw the news about the shiny shiny “Hot New Legendary Weapons” …

…. I just wonder how long it will take until those will be broken and get ignored like the “old” Legendaries we have now. Really, I don’t even care anymore that Howler is only a shadow of it’s former self, but I DO care about the fact that this whole topic gets COMPLETELY ignored even though it WAS moved into the bug section, so one good guy admitted this thing IS buggy.

At least tell us you don’t want to fix the weapon. This entire topic is just absurd by now.
(the frustration gets real over here)

New legendaries look great. Howler does not. It needs to be fixed and restored to something that looks legendary – I mean, that’s the whole point of it right?

Would it kill you to reply to this thread ANet?

ShelBlackblood.7826:

Since I just saw the news about the shiny shiny “Hot New Legendary Weapons” …

…. I just wonder how long it will take until those will be broken and get ignored like the “old” Legendaries we have now. Really, I don’t even care anymore that Howler is only a shadow of it’s former self, but I DO care about the fact that this whole topic gets COMPLETELY ignored even though it WAS moved into the bug section, so one good guy admitted this thing IS buggy.

At least tell us you don’t want to fix the weapon. This entire topic is just absurd by now.
(the frustration gets real over here)

That’s my feeling exactly. Ignoring this topic is worse that telling us straight up that they don’t intend to fix Howler or that we need to wait or something. They can answer us that it will be fixed in the next 10-50 years and it would be better than the silence.

So I finished this legendary yesterday, since I had had the precursor for ages and was within striking distance on mats to finish it – why not? It is a pretty disappointing legendary though, whereas at launch it was all I really wanted.

Completing it and then using it for the first time was a very “meh” experience.

Akrasia.5469:

That’s my feeling exactly. Ignoring this topic is worse that telling us straight up that they don’t intend to fix Howler or that we need to wait or something. They can answer us that it will be fixed in the next 10-50 years and it would be better than the silence.

Let’s be honest, it wouldn’t even take them more than 5 minutes to give us a short reply. 5 minutes. “We will fix it after HoT release” , “We will fix it in 2016” or “We don’t intend to fix it” – copy/paste one if you like to make it 1 minute, ArenaNet. I bet most of us don’t expect a good one after such a long time, but staying silent is far worse.

I don’t want to get disrespectful here, but the support team of the F2P game I play right now answers specific questions not later than 1-2 weeks after players asked them. And I’ve only spent 5 Euros on that one so far, whereas my ~200 Euros on GW 1+2 feel a bit… wasted? Instead, many of my posts even get deleted for not being constructive… Yes, I know this sounds ungrateful and a bit unfair, I got to see many good things during my Guild Wars time, but the forum support and general information policy is definively not one of those.

Salt everywhere

OnionXI.6735:

So I finished this legendary yesterday, since I had had the precursor for ages and was within striking distance on mats to finish it – why not? It is a pretty disappointing legendary though, whereas at launch it was all I really wanted.

Completing it and then using it for the first time was a very “meh” experience.

I had the same feeling. I think I had some initial excitement because it’s my first Legendary and really wanted to like it but after 3 years of work this is very disappointing.

ShelBlackblood.7826:

Akrasia.5469:

That’s my feeling exactly. Ignoring this topic is worse that telling us straight up that they don’t intend to fix Howler or that we need to wait or something. They can answer us that it will be fixed in the next 10-50 years and it would be better than the silence.

Let’s be honest, it wouldn’t even take them more than 5 minutes to give us a short reply. 5 minutes. “We will fix it after HoT release” , “We will fix it in 2016” or “We don’t intend to fix it” – copy/paste one if you like to make it 1 minute, ArenaNet. I bet most of us don’t expect a good one after such a long time, but staying silent is far worse.

I don’t want to get disrespectful here, but the support team of the F2P game I play right now answers specific questions not later than 1-2 weeks after players asked them. And I’ve only spent 5 Euros on that one so far, whereas my ~200 Euros on GW 1+2 feel a bit… wasted? Instead, many of my posts even get deleted for not being constructive… Yes, I know this sounds ungrateful and a bit unfair, I got to see many good things during my Guild Wars time, but the forum support and general information policy is definively not one of those.

Salt everywhere

I really have to agree with this. I’m almost more fed up with the fact that ANet don’t have the courtesy to respond to this thread than with the sorry state of Howler which is what it was about in the first place.

If you aren’t going to fix it then just say so then we can all move on.

Stunning lack of respect for their customer. Just stunning.

enlightened.5396:

ShelBlackblood.7826:

Akrasia.5469:

That’s my feeling exactly. Ignoring this topic is worse that telling us straight up that they don’t intend to fix Howler or that we need to wait or something. They can answer us that it will be fixed in the next 10-50 years and it would be better than the silence.

Let’s be honest, it wouldn’t even take them more than 5 minutes to give us a short reply. 5 minutes. “We will fix it after HoT release” , “We will fix it in 2016” or “We don’t intend to fix it” – copy/paste one if you like to make it 1 minute, ArenaNet. I bet most of us don’t expect a good one after such a long time, but staying silent is far worse.

I don’t want to get disrespectful here, but the support team of the F2P game I play right now answers specific questions not later than 1-2 weeks after players asked them. And I’ve only spent 5 Euros on that one so far, whereas my ~200 Euros on GW 1+2 feel a bit… wasted? Instead, many of my posts even get deleted for not being constructive… Yes, I know this sounds ungrateful and a bit unfair, I got to see many good things during my Guild Wars time, but the forum support and general information policy is definively not one of those.

Salt everywhere

I really have to agree with this. I’m almost more fed up with the fact that ANet don’t have the courtesy to respond to this thread than with the sorry state of Howler which is what it was about in the first place.

If you aren’t going to fix it then just say so then we can all move on.

Stunning lack of respect for their customer. Just stunning.

You would think 10 pages of comments would warrant a dev to chime in. The team making the new Legendaries could at least say (We’re busy! Sorry).

As for fixes. I’m almost giving up on the night effects as it’s the only thing that might require real programming. I see NO reason the other issues couldn’t be fixed quickly and easily. I have a degree in computer science with a minor in computer graphics and these are minor issues. Even if they didn’t get all the effects back they could give us something. Here are some suggestions:
1 Make the footfalls last longer (that should be as simple as changing 1 or 2 numbers in the code not rocket science).
2 Make the wolf head last longer. Again all it takes is to change 1 number. For example if the code has a value of 1 for the amount of seconds the wolf stays on screen. Change the value to 2.5 (if its just an animation that auto plays with no value then you have less of an excuse)
3. Make the mist thicker and give it a wider radius. (same deal as footfalls)
4. Make howlers sound louder and last longer. A long Wolf howl would be perfect.
NONE of these things require heavy coding or lots of play testing. ALL of these things would make Howler a much better Legendary and if we got even 2 out of 4 (The howl being the most important) of these things most of us would stop complaining. If we got all 4 I’d bet this thread would disappear completely.

I’ve said it before. Fix 1 issue at a time if you’re strapped for time. It should take all of 5 minutes to fix the footfalls and the mist. 5 minutes if the wolf animation is value based and no more then 30 minutes if you have to make a new vid (not from scratch of course just editing the old one). I’m 90% sure there is a sound bite of a wolf howling that’s available for you to use instead of the crap that plays now. That’s 5 minutes to swap out the sound file. (maybe more time to reasearch and pick one than actually fixing it) I’m being generous with these numbers. This should all be fixed in an hour or 2 .. Over a year is ridiculous.

Since this was on page 2 again, let’s bump this for no reason.
To be at least a little bit “constructive” I will just quote myself.
If Anet doesn’t care about this topic, I won’t care to write anything new myself.

The fixes I still would like to see:
- Nighteffect returns
- A new, more “horn-sounding” audio
- Footsteps should be more visible, ty BassHunteR to add this
- Wolf animation should last longer

LinhZeri.6412:

This weapon seriously needs to be reverted before the April 2014 Features Pack… even the clipping of the wolf after it howls bugs out completely losing it’s fluid motion like before… I wish they would respond to shush us at least.. simply revert it to previous and all is well IMO. I even just skinned over my Howler with the Scientific Warhorn.. after finally getting sick of a boring legendary as of that April 2014 Feature Pack.. I actually made it for the way it was before.

If the endless howl loop is seriously such an issue (which wasn’t really endless it was only at night time… which gave the effect of the weapon coming alive howling in the night made the legendary amazing ….) Make the howl last a minimum of 5 seconds… this way it settles both views on it . Just return this legendary to it’s previous glory :/.

Just going to restate my statement as I think its probably the best solution to finally end this and perhaps add much more visible foot trails.. which can easily be accomplished adding more mist remnants and even water droplets like when you unsheathe the legendary.

I finally got someone to reply to me. I private messaged a few of the Devs and moderators I’ve seen reply to other threads. (Thanks Jon Olson for replying with the kind words). Unfortunately wrong department but at least someone at ANET cares. I wish we knew who was in charge of fixing these kinds of issues.

At least it seems we’re being heard. With 10 pages of comments you’d think we would have been heard sooner. Lets keep hoping.

You haven’t filled me with optimism to be honest.

LinhZeri.6412:

…I even just skinned over my Howler with the Scientific Warhorn.. after finally getting sick of a boring legendary as of that April 2014 Feature Pack.. I actually made it for the way it was before.
Just return this legendary to it’s previous glory :/

I feel more and more sad for those of us who’ve already made the weapon. Seriously, I’m an assistant designer in my company (we make gift wraps and birthday cards), and it would break a piece of my heart if someone wrote they (more or less) “dumbed” my work because it’s not worth the time/money or whatever. From a designer’s perspective… that’s pretty sad.

I mean, does really not a single designer or concept artist read in this thread and feel slightly bad about all this? Not even one?

@Akrasia.5469
It’s nice that someone reacted, but sad at the same time that one simple “reaction” should be a good sign for the future of this whole topic. I don’t know to how many devs you wrote, but getting only one reply that’s also off-topic doesn’t sound too good, sorry for being pessimistic ._.

ShelBlackblood.7826:

LinhZeri.6412:

…I even just skinned over my Howler with the Scientific Warhorn.. after finally getting sick of a boring legendary as of that April 2014 Feature Pack.. I actually made it for the way it was before.
Just return this legendary to it’s previous glory :/

I feel more and more sad for those of us who’ve already made the weapon. Seriously, I’m an assistant designer in my company (we make gift wraps and birthday cards), and it would break a piece of my heart if someone wrote they (more or less) “dumbed” my work because it’s not worth the time/money or whatever. From a designer’s perspective… that’s pretty sad.

I mean, does really not a single designer or concept artist read in this thread and feel slightly bad about all this? Not even one?

@Akrasia.5469
It’s nice that someone reacted, but sad at the same time that one simple “reaction” should be a good sign for the future of this whole topic. I don’t know to how many devs you wrote, but getting only one reply that’s also off-topic doesn’t sound too good, sorry for being pessimistic ._.

I’m not overly optimistic about this situation but it’s like you’re dying of thirst even a drop feels better than nothing. As an IT professional and designer myself, I’m appalled with this situation. The amount of work to give the players some kind of a fix is minuscule in terms of time and effort. The time and effort to reply even less.

The new precursor skins are coming with launch right? How do you even make a precursor that doesn’t look almost he same as the current howler, since it has no visible effects?

This thread along with some others comes to proof us that they don’t care about commited and loyal players.
1- why the thread was moved and got 0 feedback?
A: cause to many ppl use the general discussion forum. So it was getting to much attention and ppl were starting to get upset with the lack of respect for the players. Even the ones who doesn’t have the legendary wrre getting annoyed.. so they move the thread here where less ppl see it and only a few will get annoyed. Just the ones with the problem and that actually goes after some sort of fix or attention. Because there are quite a few who has the item but just dont use this forum section.
2- several infractions given and posts deleted due to “not positive feedback”. Why delete those if noone from anet gave us any feedback, being positive, negative or whatever it is?
A: by deleting posts and forcing ppl to post in a specific way they can control the number of poats to not create a huge thread that wouls be getting extra attention from the community and would possibly impact on the number of x-pack sales.
3- check the classes forum, for example thieves and warrior. Since i play only those 2 they are the ones i check daily. The ammount of negative feedback about the elite specs berzerker and daredevil is huge, because they are not viable or just worse than the main spec.. and guess what: 0 replies from anet as well.
4-they throwing new legendaries on your face and they expect everyone to go after them blindly forgetting all aboit the past. They also showing legendary backpacks and shiny stuff from HoT.
A: they do that to generate a hype and so ppl will buy the xpack.. but after you finish the purchase. That is it folks..you are not their focus anymore. If you quit now, that is an acceptable loss, since you already purchased the xpack copy. They will focus and showing the shiny stuff over and over because that will make othera purchase the xpack too. The loyal customers and commited players might as well just step aside and stop prejudicing the hype they trying to create.
5- wvw players have been asking for the same stuff over and over on the past 3 years. Did anet hear the community or discussed anything before implementing recent changes to the game mode?
A: no. Instead of hearing the community that plays that game mode every day, they just implemented new gimmick mechanics that noone like from EOTM into the “new wvw” andmade it ao that players wont be able to choose not to joon that new wvw like they do by avoiding eotm map.. they just removing the old BLs so you have no choice. Skill lag/ class balancing/ BLs cap numbers/ server performance. Those issues were never really dealt with.. just got hidden in the old dark corner while they try to generate a hype and make everyone focus the attention on how good looking keeps are.. how big the map is and stuff like that. This way some ppl lose focus and stop complaining. But the real thing is.. community was ignored once again.
I purchased the premium vetsion of the xpack.
The 2 classes i like playing are receiving garbage elite specs.
One of the legendaries i crafted is completely broken and no estimated time for a fix.
The game mode i love (wvw) is getting hit hard time with xpack, and not in a good way .
Dugeons got nerfed to the ground and soon will be just ignored by the community since they removed bunch of rewards and will remove more.. cause it is not enough to offer new fractals.. they wanna force you into it. “You are going to keep doing old dugeons instead of new fractals?? Opsy.. i guess you gonna have to think it over again now.”
Oh but let me add the constructive feedback part on my post huh: (talking to the wall part of the post)
Hey wall.. we really would like some feedback on the known bugs on this legendary. It is an item that takes time and effort to be crafted and it has now 85% of its features broken or just removed.
Can you please take a look at it and talk to us.. give us an answer.. any fix planned? Any action? Refunding mats maybe??
Thanks mr. Wall

Page two again~

I’m more and more relieved I didn’t buy HoT (and actually talked my sister out of buying it).

I was very sceptical about the whole expansion ever since they said the base package will NOT include an additional character slot, making it a 65€ Euro Xpac if you want to play everything it “offers”. After this happened + many people just ignored it because they got their “veteran” slot (which I could’ve gotten to, but this goes straight against my principles) my desire for HoT fell pretty low, as of today, I don’t even care about it and will only log in for the Halloween Events. I joined the GW1 games after playing GW2 and would have NEVER bought them without the new char-slots. But hey, maybe I’m just too spoiled with my current F2P game that gives you 6 slots for free from the start and 3+ for less than 20€ …

NPE, deleted animations, things being bugged for over 2 years, tolerated exploits, zero communication in the forum and a 2 hour long beta “test” I worked for over 40 hours to get in to…. I’m SO glad all these sweet experiences told me to not buy the Xpac.

Oh yea, the constructive part!!1!

I’ve finally gathered enough gold to buy my first precursor and start to make a legendary. I was uncertain until recently if I should try to make Howler, Rodgort or the Minstrel.

…but a few ppl at Anet don’t want us to make Howler anymore…? Helping me with my decision, huh? Oh my, tyvm…! I guess…?

@Wall
I’m sure you are able to tell that I’m not mainly pushing this topic because of Howler, there have been lots of things that bothered me during the last year/s. I just wish I could pay you again 50€ so I could play GW2 on a private server, the way it was 3 years ago…. it seemed to be less bugged before.

<- being passively aggresive again (thx Edarkness <3)

I can’t log in tomorrow. Someone let me know if this ends up getting fixed I am super curious.

Whilst I can’t log in either I feel pretty confident in telling you that Howler will look no different when I eventually do.

Nothing in the release notes – ignored again – no surprise. Very shabby.

Finished crafting bolt earlier this week.. way more expensive than howler and guess what??
It is bugged as well.
It looks way better than howler for sure.. but still has its own bugs..
Wasted around 1500-2000 worth of gold on it and still got bugs..
And after this thread, i know its useless to report them

Andraus.3874:

I can’t log in tomorrow. Someone let me know if this ends up getting fixed I am super curious.

Not fixed

And now it’s absolutely clear why this thread was moved here. Won’t be long before it’s buried by HOT bugs.

What’s ridiculous, that Howl got a new skin & it’s comparable to our current effect-less Howler ..

BassHunteR.7246:

Finished crafting bolt earlier this week.. way more expensive than howler and guess what??
It is bugged as well.
It looks way better than howler for sure.. but still has its own bugs..
Wasted around 1500-2000 worth of gold on it and still got bugs..
And after this thread, i know its useless to report them

Yet another slap in the face. And STILL no response…!
I know this might be pointless, but let’s keep bumping this tread to get AT LEAST one sentence from someone of the staff. We can’t let this topic be buried under all the new bugs.

This gets worse day by day.

We should at least get a title fitting out plight like “Unheard Legends”

Sina.9208:

What’s ridiculous, that Howl got a new skin & it’s comparable to our current effect-less Howler ..

This is what I was most worried about with what could happen, maybe its to much of a complicated bug to fix but would at least like a not on what exactly is going on.
Well here’s to gen2 legends and hope the next warhorn is wicked…

Nightwin.6423:

Sina.9208:

What’s ridiculous, that Howl got a new skin & it’s comparable to our current effect-less Howler ..

This is what I was most worried about with what could happen, maybe its to much of a complicated bug to fix but would at least like a not on what exactly is going on.
Well here’s to gen2 legends and hope the next warhorn is wicked…

You all know most people made Howler for 2 reasons. 1 The precursor was cheap (or else you found one and was sitting on it for a while) and 2 Most warhorn skins sucked.

Now we’re stuck with a halfway decent warhorn skin. It’s good enough that Devs don’t want to fix it BUT as a Legendary it sucks balls. None of us (or very few of us) are going to take the time to make another Warhorn. It could be the most beautiful warhorn that has Supermodels in their undies floating around it while a wad of money shot out the front, golden foot falls and sounding to The Champ is Here mixed with guitar riffs from both Jimmy Hendricks and Carlos Santana AND I still wouldn’t spend time on another Warhorn. I might stop using Howler but I’m not spending that much effort on the same weapon :P

I might make the Axe or the Staff. Both look sweet and the Axe looks like it has a really cool trail like the greatswords on a 1 handed weapon.. If the 2nd gen Legendaries are more quests then gold I’m doing one. I’m still not happy though.

HOPE .. slim hope but hope. I private messaged a few of the devs as I’m sure some of you might have done (I know some of you were asking them when you saw them online) and I’ve had a few responses. Nothing concrete as most don’t have any direct authority to fix this or even comment publicly (for those who replied thank you. All I can say is the ones who replied so far seem to be on our side and agree that at the very least we should have some sort of answer.

Please keep this thread going and offer up some possible alternatives to Howler being reset to what it was a year and a half ago. I know some of you who had it early just want what they had but probably half the people on here (like me) made Howler less than a year ago and have been disappointed from the start. Any improvement would be appreciated at this point. If it takes them longer to fix it to the old version then I’m sure it will be worth it for some new improvements that don’t take as much time.

My personal suggestions are:
-Fix the Sound. Increase the wolf volume so its louder then the main horn.
-Fix the problem with the fog and footfalls disappearing to soon. (According to the wiki the fog has been bugged since the beginning) Make the footfalls and fog stand out more by increasing the fog volume.
-Make the wolf image bigger so its not covered by the regular skill animation (Try Howler on a necro and you’ll see what I mean)

Some suggestions that are not fixes but new features (which might take a bit longer):
-Reshape the footfalls into big wolf paw prints (can still be foggy but please let them show up more and not disappear after 3 steps)
-Have the howl play separately each time Howler is drawn or switched in combat. (Everytime the water animation plays)
-Surround the arm of the person wielding Howler in thick hairy grey fur (Thicker than a Charr) and make the hand a big wolf claw.

Wow between HoT and Halloween there are a LOT of new bugs. This thread may get buried…

Here’s an idea.. They should offer Legendary owners a “trade in” period after the new Legendaries are released. So for example Howler owners could trade in for the new Warhorn if they want. Same for each weapon to make it fair. Maybe for the 1st couple weeks after release. Maybe with some gems or mats or something.

Akrasia.5469:

Wow between HoT and Halloween there are a LOT of new bugs. This thread may get buried…

Here’s an idea.. They should offer Legendary owners a “trade in” period after the new Legendaries are released. So for example Howler owners could trade in for the new Warhorn if they want. Same for each weapon to make it fair. Maybe for the 1st couple weeks after release. Maybe with some gems or mats or something.

I would just rather have them fix Howler, which used to be one of the best legendaries ..

This one got buried again, gotta pull it back up ;)

ArenaNet, seriously, I DO feel bad for you that there are so many bug reports coming in recently + many dissapointed posts about HoT in general, but it would still be nice to -finally- get an answer for the Howler topic. I PROMISE you to not bump this thread again once you give us an official reply, no matter if it’s a good or a bad one. Simply because that would let all of us at least put an end to this debate and you and the players who write constantly in this thread can focus on more important things and leave this one aside.

Thank you for your time <3

Even worse now, the Howl collection is incompletable since you need to kill an ambient wild Bull for Vol1.

And it doesn’t exist…

Sina.9208:

Akrasia.5469:

Wow between HoT and Halloween there are a LOT of new bugs. This thread may get buried…

Here’s an idea.. They should offer Legendary owners a “trade in” period after the new Legendaries are released. So for example Howler owners could trade in for the new Warhorn if they want. Same for each weapon to make it fair. Maybe for the 1st couple weeks after release. Maybe with some gems or mats or something.

I would just rather have them fix Howler, which used to be one of the best legendaries ..

I would rather them just fix it too. The trade in was a more general idea but it applies here as it seems some of the other 1st gen legendaries have been buggy and not fixed as well. None as bad as Howler but this is a bigger problem than just us. Lack of a response is terrible.

Godisch.4076:

Even worse now, the Howl collection is incompletable since you need to kill an ambient wild Bull for Vol1.

And it doesn’t exist…

I thought I replied to this already but I was thinking you should just start a new topic for this in the general discussion area as its not directly tied to Howler but it might get some attention for us anyway

Come on ArenaNet, please reply to this thread ._.
We don’t demand Howler to be fixed asap, it’s ok if you just say “we’ve read your posts, know about the different issues, but don’t have (because of HoT + Halloween) the time to do anything right now” – as we said, we would be totally fine if the fix goes live in 2016 or even after that. But please say “something” ;o

What an appalling way to treat your customers. It’s just staggering. That no-one can muster the small amount of effort that would be required to make a reply to this thread is beyond poor … it’s a disgrace. Have a word with yourselves ArenaNet.

Akrasia.5469:

[….]
My personal suggestions are:
-Fix the Sound. Increase the wolf volume so its louder then the main horn.
-Fix the problem with the fog and footfalls disappearing to soon. (According to the wiki the fog has been bugged since the beginning) Make the footfalls and fog stand out more by increasing the fog volume.
-Make the wolf image bigger so its not covered by the regular skill animation (Try Howler on a necro and you’ll see what I mean)[….]

Personally I am most eager to see the night animation fixed. The weapon itself has absolutely no effects and that to me is by far the biggest disappointment.

The footsteps are very hit and miss, it also depends on the terrain as sometimes they seem to clip with the ground and are covered by it, but I can kind of live with it.

The mist aura does disappear but I think that’s a problem with other legendary auras too, i believe it was said this was due to the setting that limits particle effects(can’t remember the in-game name), so the game was culling the effect. I have found in some maps, especially darker ones, the mist aura is very visible (while it is actually there!)

ekkue.3754:

Akrasia.5469:

[….]
My personal suggestions are:
-Fix the Sound. Increase the wolf volume so its louder then the main horn.
-Fix the problem with the fog and footfalls disappearing to soon. (According to the wiki the fog has been bugged since the beginning) Make the footfalls and fog stand out more by increasing the fog volume.
-Make the wolf image bigger so its not covered by the regular skill animation (Try Howler on a necro and you’ll see what I mean)[….]

Personally I am most eager to see the night animation fixed. The weapon itself has absolutely no effects and that to me is by far the biggest disappointment.

The footsteps are very hit and miss, it also depends on the terrain as sometimes they seem to clip with the ground and are covered by it, but I can kind of live with it.

The mist aura does disappear but I think that’s a problem with other legendary auras too, i believe it was said this was due to the setting that limits particle effects(can’t remember the in-game name), so the game was culling the effect. I have found in some maps, especially darker ones, the mist aura is very visible (while it is actually there!)

The only reason I suggested they fix the other things first is that the initial removal of the night animations was to correct a bug. I have a degree in computer science so as a programmer I can imagine what they did. The endless Howl loop is happening with the night animations. All of the night animations were probably supposed to be instanced too but looped and gave it a wonderful effect that was not even supposed to be there. The error was probably in the entire loop and they just tossed it rather than reprogram it. That being said if the Devs are in the mindset of quick fixes I made suggestions that would meet them half way so at least we get something other than a year of silence. footfalls should be easy, I understand what you’re saying with the mist but those auras are around other weapons so just add extra mist to Howler’s basic skin. My point is if getting night effects bask is going to take another year and a half then fix what can be fixed the quickest. Fix Howler in stages of a couple months not a 2 or 3 year solution.

If its going to take 2 more years to get the original animations back then make new effects like I suggested earlier :
-Reshape the footfalls into big wolf paw prints (can still be foggy but please let them show up more and not disappear after 3 steps)
-Have the howl play separately each time Howler is drawn or switched in combat. (Everytime the water animation plays)
-Surround the arm of the person wielding Howler in thick hairy grey fur (Thicker than a Charr) and make the hand a big wolf claw.

OR make something new that’s Awesome. BUT Please do something.

Well still have this precursor colleting dust in my bank any comment on when I can be bothered to craft it?

Linken.6345:

Well still have this precursor colleting dust in my bank any comment on when I can be bothered to craft it?

I say it’s a gamble. If you really need a warhorn then its ok.. disappointing compared to other legendaries but decent compared to most warhorns. You could always sell it and put the gold towards a better legendary. The gamble is they might (still hoping) fix Howler and make it awesome. Stranger things have happened.

Can some moderator please reply to this thread BEFORE we reach 500 comments…?

I’m getting so tired from the endless waiting… this is beyond anything. I never saw the community of a MMO being ignored this long in any game I played so far. Two more comments to go… will ArenaNet make it??

Edit: The forum bug just destroyed this opportunity, ugh