Old MF can't choose any other crafting stat.

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Posted by: Souff.2671

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Aboud Old Magic Find Items.

I saw the Economy Report. It said “For example, if you have an Explorer’s Pearl Staff, you can now double-click it to change it to any other crafting stat.”, but I can’t choose Sentinel and Celestial stat. Those are surely crafting stats.

Fix plz

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Posted by: AlkalineLemon.3854

AlkalineLemon.3854

Aboud Old Magic Find Items.

I saw the Economy Report. It said “For example, if you have an Explorer’s Pearl Staff, you can now double-click it to change it to any other crafting stat.”, but I can’t choose Sentinel and Celestial stat. Those are surely crafting stats.

Fix plz

I can understand not being able to select Celestial, seeing as how celestial stat items are time gated. Not so sure about Sentinel, however.

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Posted by: Souff.2671

Souff.2671

Aboud Old Magic Find Items.

I saw the Economy Report. It said “For example, if you have an Explorer’s Pearl Staff, you can now double-click it to change it to any other crafting stat.”, but I can’t choose Sentinel and Celestial stat. Those are surely crafting stats.

Fix plz

I can understand not being able to select Celestial, seeing as how celestial stat items are time gated. Not so sure about Sentinel, however.

The price of MF gears went up the valid value for considering celestial right before the patch. Just watch Crystal Guardian and Shiverstone, Those are already dropable.

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I feel kind of worry. I hope they don’t hide bad information.

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

Dietzen.6127

I too feel kind of misled here, I was given the impression that I would be able to make some MF gear into Dire. I had some explorer’s gear, and can chose assassins prefix, but not dire
I hope this is an oversight, as I would hate to not be able to chose EVERY crafting stat.

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Posted by: Baltzenger.2467

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I have a problem with this too. No response yet from Anet.
I bought a set of explorer’s draconic gear, expecting to change it to dire (just to have my dire set as soon as possible), and today I found that Dire is not in the list of stats I can get. Also, there is no recipe for crafting heavy dire armor, but there is for medium and light. So obviously, nobody is selling draconic dire gear either. I invested before so I can save time, and get my set as soon as possible. :/

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I have a problem with this too. No response yet from Anet.
I bought a set of explorer’s draconic gear, expecting to change it to dire (just to have my dire set as soon as possible), and today I found that Dire is not in the list of stats I can get. Also, there is no recipe for crafting heavy dire armor, but there is for medium and light. So obviously, nobody is selling draconic dire gear either. I invested before so I can save time, and get my set as soon as possible. :/

I bought and crafted 21 pieces of those for celestial gears of my toons. It was limited and bounded with an account. So there is no reason to exclude those stats.

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

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I bought like 20 pieces of equip for this patch, half were meant to be berserkers, so that’s fine. However, the other half were meant to be Dire prefix, but I can’t chose this option. I bought explorers equip, as the description in the news simply stated that magic find equip would be able to pick ANY CRAFTING stats.

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I’m seeing Anet is in a right mess atm by a lot of new elements, so maybe they can’t fix this soon. But unused Old MF Items keep occupying our inventory, So I hope the fixing will come in the half-decent early time .

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Posted by: TeriLK.8910

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They probably meant the base/discoverable crafting stats which does not include Sentinel (recipes and inscriptions only dropped during F&F) and Celestial (again recipes need to be bought and all charged quartz/resulting gear is account bound). On top of that I do understand not being able to choose Celestial stats, I’m sure they know it’d kitten a lotta people off to give away free Celestial stats after implementing a system that made us go through the pains of getting 30 charged quartz crystals to craft a full armor set.

I do hear you about not being able to choose the rest of the stats on some armor sets though. I kind of wish I waited now to see if anything would change, I would have liked to be able to turn my guard’s MF gear into a knight’s set.

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They probably meant the base/discoverable crafting stats which does not include Sentinel (recipes and inscriptions only dropped during F&F) and Celestial (again recipes need to be bought and all charged quartz/resulting gear is account bound).

Be that as it may, There is their responsibility since they wrote the incorrect report with no description about such a important thing.

On top of that I do understand not being able to choose Celestial stats, I’m sure they know it’d kitten a lotta people off to give away free Celestial stats after implementing a system that made us go through the pains of getting 30 charged quartz crystals to craft a full armor set.

The pain exists a problem on the craft side. About it, Anet has already make a solution that some of those drop from champion chests. So there is no problem to make an another solution .

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Posted by: Genesis Notch.1905

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This whole MF-to-other-stat scheme is a compensation, not a shortcut.

True that the statement itself is way too exaggerating. However, it’s quite obvious that it’d be too good to be true if you can turn a moderate cost gear into a time-gated or expensive gear such as Celestial or Sentinel. They are both harder to get for reasons.

Perhaps they’d be available to this scheme should their price/value become lower. But for now, it’s intentional and pretty unlikely to change.

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This whole MF-to-other-stat scheme is a compensation, not a shortcut.

True that the statement itself is way too exaggerating. However, it’s quite obvious that it’d be too good to be true if you can turn a moderate cost gear into a time-gated or expensive gear such as Celestial or Sentinel. They are both harder to get for reasons.

Perhaps they’d be available to this scheme should their price/value become lower. But for now, it’s intentional and pretty unlikely to change.

Of course we need a compensation. Do you remember a Sentinel insignia was sold by 2g? Do you know Celestial gears already drop from champion chests? There is no point to talk about values except old magic find items.

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Posted by: TeriLK.8910

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They probably meant the base/discoverable crafting stats which does not include Sentinel (recipes and inscriptions only dropped during F&F) and Celestial (again recipes need to be bought and all charged quartz/resulting gear is account bound).

Be that as it may, There is their responsibility since they wrote the incorrect report with no description about such a important thing.

Well, not if the majority player base understood Sentinel and Celestial were not part of the crafted set. And I think you’ll find that most people will admit to that. I think Genesis was saying it was compensation for players with soulbound weapons, not compensation for wanting to shortcut buying 1g-5g weapons before the update to get stats that are not otherwise easily attainable. Sentinel inscriptions/insigna have only recently been re-added to the loot table iirc, but for the purpose of the exotic inscriptions giving experience to level to 500.

You also kinda defeated your own argument by saying Shiverstone and Crystal guardian were added to the loot table because these are not craftable, they are unique skin champ drops. In no way were Celestial/Sentinel conventionally craftable without first attaining recipes, inscription drops, and special materials. This means that they are not considered craftable weapons. Dire and Assassin’s stats on the other hand have replaced their craftable counterparts, which is why they are selectable, though I do agree thakittens frustrating that they’re not selectable in all cases and question whether that part was intentional.

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They probably meant the base/discoverable crafting stats which does not include Sentinel (recipes and inscriptions only dropped during F&F) and Celestial (again recipes need to be bought and all charged quartz/resulting gear is account bound).

Be that as it may, There is their responsibility since they wrote the incorrect report with no description about such a important thing.

Well, not if the majority player base understood Sentinel and Celestial were not part of the crafted set. And I think you’ll find that most people will admit to that. I think Genesis was saying it was compensation for players with soulbound weapons, not compensation for wanting to shortcut buying 1g-5g weapons before the update to get stats that are not otherwise easily attainable. Sentinel inscriptions/insigna have only recently been re-added to the loot table iirc, but for the purpose of the exotic inscriptions giving experience to level to 500.

You also kinda defeated your own argument by saying Shiverstone and Crystal guardian were added to the loot table because these are not craftable, they are unique skin champ drops. In no way were Celestial/Sentinel conventionally craftable without first attaining recipes, inscription drops, and special materials. This means that they are not considered craftable weapons. Dire and Assassin’s stats on the other hand have replaced their craftable counterparts, which is why they are selectable, though I do agree thakittens frustrating that they’re not selectable in all cases and question whether that part was intentional.

Aren’t you an anet staff? I have no idea why do you want to pull the small rug from under each other with no benefit. Please dont use sentences kinda “majority player” “most people” lightly. Those make nonsense of your advocating. You aren’t people.

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Posted by: Sharkinu.8096

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Just some items are like that. some of them allows you to select celestial. I have Arachnophobia and celestial is one of the available options.

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Just some items are like that. some of them allows you to select celestial. I have Arachnophobia and celestial is one of the available options.

I’m sorry to trouble you, but could you capture a screen shot?

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Posted by: Sharkinu.8096

Sharkinu.8096

Just some items are like that. some of them allows you to select celestial. I have Arachnophobia and celestial is one of the available options.

I’m sorry to trouble you, but could you capture a screen shot?

Here you go.

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Just some items are like that. some of them allows you to select celestial. I have Arachnophobia and celestial is one of the available options.

I’m sorry to trouble you, but could you capture a screen shot?

Here you go.

Thank you.

I see, exactly this is a exception they wrote in their report. The list shows all craft & loot prefixes. Though this wasn’t written circumstantially in thier report , there is no problem because they did all but the kitchen about it.

Though I don’t request all but the kitchen to other old MF Items, please let me request what they can do since what they wrote.

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I may add that I have been asked a question about this before the report is posted.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Magic-Find-merged-1/page/10#post2730900

If this isn’t a bug, they would write the answer to this on the report. Hypothetically, if this isn’t bug, so please let me blame on a permanent basis since Anet have fun to get gw2 player to dance by providing inaccurate information

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Didn’t they say, every time, that the choice of stats depended on the item or where it was attained?

‘Weapons, armor and trinkets with magic find will become account bound, lose their current stats and will gain the ability to be double-clicked to select one of several stat options depending on the item.’

‘This is a one-time ability, and the options are dependent on where the item was acquired.’

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Posted by: TeriLK.8910

TeriLK.8910

Didn’t they say, every time, that the choice of stats depended on the item or where it was attained?

‘Weapons, armor and trinkets with magic find will become account bound, lose their current stats and will gain the ability to be double-clicked to select one of several stat options depending on the item.’

‘This is a one-time ability, and the options are dependent on where the item was acquired.’

This. Arachnophobia is still a high-end, Mystic Forge weapon, which is why it’s able to choose all stats. The problem isn’t that these stats are not available, its that they aren’t available to craftable Explorer’s weapons – showing that this weapon can select those stats does not help your point.

Aren’t you an anet staff? I have no idea why do you want to pull the small rug from under each other with no benefit. Please dont use sentences kinda “majority player” “most people” lightly. Those make nonsense of your advocating. You aren’t people.

You’re right I’m not able to speak for “majority” and “most” players, I concede to that. I suppose we have to wait for an Anet employee to spell it out clearly, anyway, since my logic doesn’t work here.

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Posted by: Souff.2671

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‘This is a one-time ability, and the options are dependent on where the item was acquired.’

Though this writing have some points to be pursued too, this is written in the patch notes. So this bears no relation to this case in this time.

‘Weapons, armor and trinkets with magic find will become account bound, lose their current stats and will gain the ability to be double-clicked to select one of several stat options depending on the item.’

The writing is possible to be interpreted protective so as the case now stands, but it’s not a circumstantial writing. It speaks for itself since there is an exemplification after it. The problem is the exemplification.

“For example, if you have an Explorer’s Pearl Staff, you can now double-click it to change it to any other crafting stat.”

If they are normally cautious, they must have written “change it to Apothecary’s, Assasin’s, Berserker’s, Carrion’s, Cleric’s, Knight’s, Rampager’s, and Valkyrie stat.”. But they didn’t write so. The result is the unnatural inflation of MF-item-prices just before the patch. If they wrote circumstantial as above, the result would be the opposite since the accentuation of disadvantage that those items become non-tradable. If this is an Anet’s factitive thing, it means anet obfuscated the information intentionally. Exactly
it’s the act to get gw2 player to dance foully. I hope it wasn’t so.

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Posted by: Souff.2671

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Those 21 pieces are a hassle to carry…So I bought a bank tab. I can’t wait for the day when those can be changed to the decent stats.

I look forward to fixing these at your earliest convenience. I will appreciate your sincere actions.

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Posted by: Souff.2671

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Though there is a bold problem about non account bound, please care another this problem too.

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I think I wanna believe Anet. That’s it.

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The maximum number of bank tabs a player can have has been increased from 8 to 12. Players who have eight bank tabs can now purchase up to four more. Bank tabs can be purchased by clicking the lock icon at the bottom of the bank tab or by visiting the Upgrades category in the Gem Store. Each bank tab costs 600 gems.

Is this your answer? Does it means “Keep your gears in a bank forever with fostering an extremely small hope.” ? I’d like to think this is my overthinking…

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I still expect you ,._.,

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

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You were betting on them to leaving a massive loophole in the stat change which would have allowed bypassing existing restrictions. You are now complaining that they did not in fact leave that loophole in place. As with any sort of gambling, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

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You were betting on them to leaving a massive loophole in the stat change which would have allowed bypassing existing restrictions. You are now complaining that they did not in fact leave that loophole in place. As with any sort of gambling, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

Your indication may miss a bit point. If they wouldn’t make those account bound, maybe it was a gamble since there is a gold benefit. Of course it’s happy to me, but I don’t request it here.

But your comment is valuable. At least you are here as the one who think Anet let gw2 players gamble intentionally by providing inaccurate information.

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You were betting on them to leaving a massive loophole in the stat change which would have allowed bypassing existing restrictions. You are now complaining that they did not in fact leave that loophole in place. As with any sort of gambling, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

Your indication may miss a bit point. If they wouldn’t make those account bound, maybe it was a gamble since there is a gold benefit. Of course it’s happy to me, but I don’t request it here.

But your comment is valuable. At least you are here as the one who think Anet let gw2 players gamble intentionally with inaccurate information.

I think it is okay for there to be risk. It is up to players to decide how they want to manage that risk. If they decide to take the risk and it didn’t work out they should accept responsibility for their own decisions.

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You were betting on them to leaving a massive loophole in the stat change which would have allowed bypassing existing restrictions. You are now complaining that they did not in fact leave that loophole in place. As with any sort of gambling, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

Your indication may miss a bit point. If they wouldn’t make those account bound, maybe it was a gamble since there is a gold benefit. Of course it’s happy to me, but I don’t request it here.

But your comment is valuable. At least you are here as the one who think Anet let gw2 players gamble intentionally with inaccurate information.

I think it is okay for there to be risk. It is up to players to decide how they want to manage that risk. If they decide to take the risk and it didn’t work out they should accept responsibility for their own decisions.

At least you think it was a gamble. So your saying is proper. Please lemme say, at least it wasn’t a gamble to me. Bacause I think Anet is a service company, not a dealer.

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Nowadays, Updates become scrupulously. It’s nice to see it happen. Please keep this up and attack the knots of this problem too. Account wallet cleared bank slots thankfully, but now those slots are occupied by some gears since this problem.

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Yea…we can do nothing except to wait after all.

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“The less said, the better.” Therefore I can’t not trust for a step toward goodwill. I still expect to the next patch.

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Souff.2671:

Companies miss out precious trusts like this. Please let me teach 2 things to you, Anet.

The first, Trusts make a profit. I’m sure I don’t have to teach you this. This is a basic of business.
The second, Grudges make a loss. Customers easily bear a grudge against a company.
Sometimes, the grudge is strong enough to rid the world of one existence. Probably you don’t know the terror of user’s grudge.

So I think to do something with a grudge. Please be prepared for purchase volume of GEM from one country becoming markedly reduced. Of course I stop to buy GEM, also I do more.

A disgraced company have no future. Please be prepared.

My bank slots still be occupied by those gears.

So I keep on doing what I said.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1396904-GW2-NCSoft-3Q-13-Earnings-Report

  • Your trust continue to decrease.^^
  • Your profit continue to decrease.^^
  • Your acts continue to be unforgiven.^^

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Fixing, not yet?

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Next, a lot of stats will be changed.
When were MF gears changed, those had become possible to be choose.

So, you should do this again. Especially those gears include ferocity should become selectable.

Note : Don’t miss some stats again.

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