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Posted by: Bori.6179

Bori.6179

Believe it or not, devs are probably more frustrated by this problem than most of us. So how about show some support instead of shooting arrows at their knees.

That being said, @devs: if there is any way the players can provide data or any way to help out, please let us know. We are all very eager to help.

The real problem is lack of communication. Some communication would go a long way here. But according to my recent interaction with Gaile, communication occurs in terms of when it’s fixed = there was communication. In the meantime we wait to see if the fix occurs so we can see if communication happened or not. So people become upset and choose things like refunds or quite and never bother coming back to see if it was fixed. I don’t really approve of this form of communication. Granted I do appreciate the devs, especially Gaile and everything she does but I do not agree with how issues like this get handled.

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Believe it or not, devs are probably more frustrated by this problem than most of us. So how about show some support instead of shooting arrows at their knees.

I do belive. I think an answer from Anet would help here. Even if it will be something like: “Hey, sorry for keep you waiting. I guess the time we fix this will be in 2-3 weeks. Of course remmeber it can take a bit longer than that, beacouse problem is complicated”
It would be much better than complete silence.

I agree that waiting without knowing is frustrating.

But I don’t think it’s justified for people to blame dev for “not solving this problem soon enough”, or even saying “fix this kitten now or give my money back”. Like really?
Someone else already said this but people need to realize this: it ain’t easy debugging code, especially with a large system like GW2 and has got several revisions.


Communication to the player is a separate issue. And the following is my opinion:
- Efficiency
=> Is it efficient to ask devs to pause regularly and prepare reports to brief the players?
- Assuming dev has the time to brief other people, what kind of information can the dev share with the players?
=> Question of confidentiality and intellectual properties within the company
=> Do the players even need/want to know all the technical details about what tests they did, what they suspected to be the problem, etc
- Who should talk to the player?
=> Most likely there’s a lot of people working on different parts of the game (duh), so do they all talk about their own findings to the player?
=> What happens if they are wrong about what they suspected to be the problem? Is that even professional to give information without verifying?
- Etc

Of course, there are other considerations, such as competence, the maturity of the system they are developing on, structure within the company, and so on.


Other Comments:
Could ANet do better? Sure. One possibility I see is to have a spokesperson, an HR, or team lead, who deal with players.
Whether any of the suggestions is feasible for the structure within ANet dev team, I have not the faintest idea, so I’m not gonna pretend I know what’s best for them.
And even if the suggestion is good, who’s got the authority to install them in the company?



Conclusion:
- I believe talking to players is a HR job, and devs should not be responsible to do HR on a regular basis.
- I’m not saying the devs are saints and they are exempted from being questioned of the operation of the game, but I do ask those threatening to quit to think before they open their mouths. There are more things than most people realize that are not in the dev’s control."
- Again I must emphasize: customer relation is a different issue from development itself. I am not against people questioning ANet’s way of handling customer relation (in fact I support it), but if one knows little or nothing about development, they should shut it.


So this why I have to take all these godforsaken communication skill courses in my undergrad eng program… darn it.

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Posted by: Alahyana.4398

Alahyana.4398

I have been playing my human and norn character, so now I’m with my Sylvari and I have this same issue… and what worry me is seeing people complaining about this the last 10 days!!!

My server is Isle of Janthir

I wonder when they will solve it… I love story progression!!!

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Posted by: Koris Koridian.3574

Koris Koridian.3574

Still borked? Come on get the lead out! Note: Move salve 20 units forward

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Posted by: Piteero.7418

Piteero.7418

Lvl 65 and still wait for lvl 10 story quest. That’s not funny now.

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Posted by: dusanyu.4057

dusanyu.4057

god think i am just at level 10 ill just re roll with a different story.

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Posted by: Piteero.7418

Piteero.7418

I probably easily reach 80lv before they fix it :-)

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Posted by: winn.7431

winn.7431

i have the same problem with my story quest

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Posted by: Folkvar.6830

Folkvar.6830

So nobody is hearing us out or what? Also the response from the AN representative was BS.. “were looking into it”
Thats BS. We need: “We’ll fix it in a couple of hours” or “will be fixed by tomorrow”
But as I see the problem has persisted for quite some time now… where is the support?

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Posted by: Shoryuu.1605

Shoryuu.1605

Same thing with my Sylvari. Made a Ranger yesterday and got her to 10 today, started doing Awakening quest only to find out it’s bugged and I can’t get the troll salve x.x so frustrating when I want to progress! I’m just glad I got my Sylvari Mesmer past this before the bug happened but still would be nice if it was fixed ><. Guess I’ll play my Mesmer for now qq

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Posted by: Wran.9376

Wran.9376

The first and only response from ArenaNet in this topic (idc that somebody wrote something in different topic, it was not considering this bug) was 10 days ago. Which means that support doesn’t do what they should do – support players.

Honestly, 10 days of not saying anything and letting their customers be more and more frustrated… their boss must be a very patient men/women.

Ridicules…

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Posted by: Dadgummit.2046

Dadgummit.2046

Yeah, still bugged. Still waiting on the devs to respond with an ETA..

By the way the HR department has nothing to do with customer relations, they do internal benefits, hiring, firing, etc. The only hr actions we should be waiting on would be 1. hire someone to communicate with the customers. or 2. fire the person who is not communicating with the customers.

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Posted by: Malice.1702

Malice.1702

Got the same bug on my little Sylvari :C

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Posted by: Keypek.5716

Keypek.5716

Same, broken. How is this not fixed yet?

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Posted by: AcidTekno.5192

AcidTekno.5192

Everyone is assuming that these personal story bugs are easy to fix… if they were they would be fixed already. I rather them fix the bugs the right way than rushing it and adding new bugs.

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Posted by: Dadgummit.2046

Dadgummit.2046

They just need to move the location of the Troll Salve. Should not be too difficult. Just change the X and Y values. OR just increase the radius of the circle where the interact popup happens. OR just reverse whatever broke it in the first place. If they really wanted to fix it a competent coder should be able to make quick work of it.

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Posted by: JustANoob.2798

JustANoob.2798

I am on the step that says obtain the troll salve but there is an invisible wall blocking me so I cannot get to it. Here is a screenshot showing how close I can get. I cannot target it or interact with it in any way. I tried restarting the instance but it didn’t help.

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Posted by: umthala.7902

umthala.7902

I have had this problem with personal story missions bugging with other races as well as this one. One of my biggest worries for the game and community is that new players that are coming in from seeing heart of thorns will be infuriated and probably quit. Stuff like story is a really important part of immersion and it restricts people wanting to play if they hear there is bugs this early in the game and not adressed, at least with a statement from the devs or any other arena net rep.

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Posted by: CanisLupusArctos.7301

CanisLupusArctos.7301

I’m a little disappointed that this problem is still persisting. I haven’t played my Sylvari (the very first character i made in this game) since I can’t even play my story line quest. I didn’t play this game because it’s an MMO, I play this game for the interactive story line and the terrific RPG aspect you guys added into this game. This game truly is great. But when it comes to fixing this very annoying bug the AN team hasn’t done much to fix it. I hate to be that person, but Blizzard would have jumped on their crap to fix a small bug that is causing such a big problem in World of Warcraft. So, why aren’t you guys?

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Posted by: CanisLupusArctos.7301

CanisLupusArctos.7301

This has been a problem users have had to deal with for the past 11 days. still hasn’t gotten dealt with.

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Posted by: Isenroden.8491

Isenroden.8491

Cannot reach the troll salve in story instance, reports of this for the past 14 days. Last GM response per forum was 10 days ago. Please fix.

Tis a dream, a dream within a dream…

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Posted by: ODavran.5297

ODavran.5297

It is still not fixed and it is getting more and more annoying.

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Posted by: Xenixith.2985

Xenixith.2985

Sad that it’s been nearly two weeks and still no fix. I recommended this game to a few friends and when some finally got into it came with a bugged story. Now I feel bad for saying how awesome this game is when they can’t even do their story. They’ve all but stopped playing and probably will entirely if this isn’t fixed very soon.

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Posted by: Annie Mouse.5184

Annie Mouse.5184

There still has been no communication about this bug being fixed then? Honestly I’m finding it pretty funny at this point. My bugged sylvari is going to have some pretty awesome looking gear by the time its fixed. Sort of works out, i love the cultural armor and was kind of sad i have to wait til level 35 to get it so i don’t have it at the low level quests. Now I’m pushing level 60 so woot! awesome looking sylvari themed gear lol.

Seriously though, I would love to see some communication from the devs about what is happening with the bugs. The lack of information is what is upsetting me, way more than the actual story bug.

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Posted by: midnight tea.3681

midnight tea.3681

I actually quit the game again because of this bug. It and the lack of communication made ArenaNet look incredibly sloppy, and XCOM 2 is out, so…

I’ll come back next living world update I guess. But my faith in this game’s future has been shaken.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

There still has been no communication about this bug being fixed then? Honestly I’m finding it pretty funny at this point. My bugged sylvari is going to have some pretty awesome looking gear by the time its fixed. Sort of works out, i love the cultural armor and was kind of sad i have to wait til level 35 to get it so i don’t have it at the low level quests. Now I’m pushing level 60 so woot! awesome looking sylvari themed gear lol.

Seriously though, I would love to see some communication from the devs about what is happening with the bugs. The lack of information is what is upsetting me, way more than the actual story bug.

There is no need to wait. You can just unlock the skin and apply it to whatever you are wearing.

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Posted by: Piteero.7418

Piteero.7418

There still has been no communication about this bug being fixed then? Honestly I’m finding it pretty funny at this point. My bugged sylvari is going to have some pretty awesome looking gear by the time its fixed. Sort of works out, i love the cultural armor and was kind of sad i have to wait til level 35 to get it so i don’t have it at the low level quests. Now I’m pushing level 60 so woot! awesome looking sylvari themed gear lol.

Seriously though, I would love to see some communication from the devs about what is happening with the bugs. The lack of information is what is upsetting me, way more than the actual story bug.

There is no need to wait. You can just unlock the skin and apply it to whatever you are wearing.

How i can get this armor skin??

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Posted by: Wran.9376

Wran.9376

12 days of silence means, that representatives of ArenaNet at this forum don’t care about our problems with game. At lest now we know it

If somebody ask me, if it is worth to buy GW2, I can honestly answer: “You are buying on your own risk – the game is very nice, but you cannot count on support form the team”.

Thanks ArenaNet for showing me, how much you don’t care

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Posted by: Piteero.7418

Piteero.7418

Yeahh. Its all about communication…

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Posted by: Joxer.6024

Joxer.6024

just rolled a Leaf-lover and issue is still there! COME ON ANET, almost 2 weeks no fix? I don’t want to “re-roll” or if I do are you going to compensate me for the levelling scrolls I used? I doubt it.
I would expect something like this from Blizzard, not you guys. So not cool.

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Posted by: RasCaelestis.6572

RasCaelestis.6572

just rolled a Leaf-lover and issue is still there! COME ON ANET, almost 2 weeks no fix? I don’t want to “re-roll” or if I do are you going to compensate me for the levelling scrolls I used? I doubt it.
I would expect something like this from Blizzard, not you guys. So not cool.

I really don’t mind leveling up again, if I had to. My problem is that I had already started crafting on my Sylvari. If I have to reroll, I’m out all the materials I used to get the ‘Chef’ skill to 120-ish. :\

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Posted by: Nytes.5269

Nytes.5269

just rolled a Leaf-lover and issue is still there! COME ON ANET, almost 2 weeks no fix? I don’t want to “re-roll” or if I do are you going to compensate me for the levelling scrolls I used? I doubt it.
I would expect something like this from Blizzard, not you guys. So not cool.

I really don’t mind leveling up again, if I had to. My problem is that I had already started crafting on my Sylvari. If I have to reroll, I’m out all the materials I used to get the ‘Chef’ skill to 120-ish. :\

Same problem here, and I probably wouldn’t mind just making a new character either, except for the scrolls and 2 weeks of waiting as well as the time and effort put into this character.

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Posted by: Piteero.7418

Piteero.7418

Im not makimg new Sylvari too because im 73lvl now…AND STILL WAIT FOR FIRST QUEST!!!

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Posted by: Frostchant.1523

Frostchant.1523

At first, I was ready to defend Anet; my husband works at IT, I’ve heard a lot of stories like “it seems to be simple to fix, but in details, it’s complicated”, and I know how it looks from the other side.

In my husband’s opinion, a range increase, where the item is taken, would temporaly help, and it might not be as difficult, as it looks.

Now I’m between. If it was about an event, or something, I wouldn’t complain, but personal story quest (which is essential for the game experience), is another thing.
Not only I feel uneasy, cause I run around as high-level Sylvari, and I didn’t even meet Pale Tree yet, but also I cannot choose an order, see myself, what is the Moon Shield all about, and now I’m afraid I won’t be able to complete “Heart of Thorns” chapter on the Sylvari, even if I paid for the expansion.

A compensation, for being unable to complete the story due to a bug, have sounded like ridiculous idea to me, but after 2 weeks of waiting I wouldn’t mind.

Propably, if a bug occured in the payment system, or the store, it would be fixed in no time.

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Posted by: firgard.6749

firgard.6749

This is really frustrating. /sigh

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Posted by: Piteero.7418

Piteero.7418

It’s fixed guys!

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Posted by: Frostchant.1523

Frostchant.1523

It’s fixed – at least for me, and I hope for good
Check out, guys, if it’s fixed.

Don’t ask the questions you know the answers to; it’s not polite.~Queen of Hearts

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Posted by: Wran.9376

Wran.9376

Fixed, thank you.

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Posted by: RasCaelestis.6572

RasCaelestis.6572

Thanks, ANet! Apart from one or two minor issues (like this one) in this game, it’s really fun. One of the best MMOs I’ve ever played.

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Posted by: Nytes.5269

Nytes.5269

Fixed, Yay!!!

My Sylvari Elementalist thanks you!

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Posted by: shadow.6174

shadow.6174

BALANCE, BUG-FIXING, POLISH
Personal Story

  • Fixed an issue that prevented troll salve from being usable after defeating the trolls guarding it in the “Awakening” story step.

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Posted by: midnight tea.3681

midnight tea.3681

Thanks for getting this fixed. I really was about to quit the game for a while, but the fix rolled out almost just in the nick of time.

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Posted by: uropygid.3402

uropygid.3402

Thanks for fixing this! now my friend and I can progress with their sylvari character. :>

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