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is your power options in control panel to high performance and not to balance as it is by default and recommended when windows installed ?

Yep its been set to high settings

Also my CPU usage actually shoots up when i get lag spikes but my GPU usage goes down

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The core speed of my cpu from to 1000 Mhz from 4000 when i lag as well

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The core speed of my cpu from to 1000 Mhz from 4000 when i lag as well

when you lag, your CPU drops to 1Ghz?

if so, then your CPU is the cause of this…..

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Ok wait, your running an FX CPU. New system…what OS?

If its windows7, did you install the AMD FX service patch for Windows 7?

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The core speed of my cpu from to 1000 Mhz from 4000 when i lag as well

when you lag, your CPU drops to 1Ghz?

if so, then your CPU is the cause of this…..

But my GPU clock drops too…

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Ok wait, your running an FX CPU. New system…what OS?

If its windows7, did you install the AMD FX service patch for Windows 7?

windows 7 and i dont remember installing that but ill see abou that real quick

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Ok wait, your running an FX CPU. New system…what OS?

If its windows7, did you install the AMD FX service patch for Windows 7?

windows 7 and i dont remember installing that but ill see abou that real quick

Get that patch installed, then we will revisit.

it sounds like Windows cannot handle your FX cpu (its built differently then most other CPUs) and there is a patch written for that. If that doesnt fix it, then your issue is power related.

Something is forcing your entire system to clock down (CPU, GPU…ect), its probably ACPI power management (power options in windows), or its thermal protection detected in the BIOS.

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Alright.. installing. What should i do if this doesnt work ?

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Okay this was already installed i guess so now what

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Okay this was already installed i guess so now what

start>control panel> power options.

Set the power Plan to High.

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Okay this was already installed i guess so now what

start>control panel> power options.

Set the power Plan to High.

It was already set to high this whole time

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It could be my /CPU cooler but i recently screwed it in a little more… My temps dont rise that high honestly and its a watercooler. theres no way its getting that hot

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Okay this was already installed i guess so now what

start>control panel> power options.

Set the power Plan to High.

It was already set to high this whole time

With out being there to see it myself, there isnt much I can do from here.

But this is what I know, something in your system is throttling your CPU and possibly your GPU. Once you find out what, you can fix the issue.

Maybe tear your system apart like mentioned before. Reset your BIOS, and put everything back together and see if that helps. You did build your system yea?

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Okay this was already installed i guess so now what

start>control panel> power options.

Set the power Plan to High.

It was already set to high this whole time

With out being there to see it myself, there isnt much I can do from here.

But this is what I know, something in your system is throttling your CPU and possibly your GPU. Once you find out what, you can fix the issue.

Maybe tear your system apart like mentioned before. Reset your BIOS, and put everything back together and see if that helps. You did build your system yea?

Ya i built it all myself.. IDK Its literally just this game that does this like I’ve said before

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SO i turned off the thermal protection shizz on my BIOS and it went really steady and all my issues were gone. Now its a whole different type of lag. Now instead of dropping frames my game just skips 60 frames every few seconds. Awesome

Edit: Now that lag is gone.. for now.. it might all come back any second

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SO i turned off the thermal protection shizz on my BIOS and it went really steady and all my issues were gone. Now its a whole different type of lag. Now instead of dropping frames my game just skips 60 frames every few seconds. Awesome

Are you sure that you plugged all the power connections into the Motherboard that needed to be plugged in?

There should be a 20+4, and a 4+4, and MAYBE a 4pin Molux connector.

Its also kinda starting to sound like maybe your motherboard is just bad.

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SO i turned off the thermal protection shizz on my BIOS and it went really steady and all my issues were gone. Now its a whole different type of lag. Now instead of dropping frames my game just skips 60 frames every few seconds. Awesome

Are you sure that you plugged all the power connections into the Motherboard that needed to be plugged in?

There should be a 20+4, and a 4+4, and MAYBE a 4pin Molux connector.

Its also kinda starting to sound like maybe your motherboard is just bad.

It is a really old mobo.. but i dont have money to replace it.

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So far no lag at all, CPU max temps hit 64 C in huge zergs.

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OHHHHHHH K,

so your NEW build is just a GPU and CPU. You are using your old Motherboard and possibly your PSU.

what BIOS is running on your MB. According to ASRock’s website you NEED to be on bios version P1.20 to have an FX8350 installed in your Motherboard.

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kitten ME IT ALL CAME BACK kitten THIS kitten MAN

OHHHHHHH K,

so your NEW build is just a GPU and CPU. You are using your old Motherboard and possibly your PSU.

what BIOS is running on your MB. According to ASRock’s website you NEED to be on bios version P1.20 to have an FX8350 installed in your Motherboard.

P1.20? What does that mean? I jsut recentely updated my BIOS but http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Pro3/?cat=CPU shows me exactly what i need no download links to it.. but then theres http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Pro3/?cat=Download&os=BIOS&Model=970%20Pro3 that has download links, should i just get 1.90?

I already have 1.90 on my computer

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kitten ME IT ALL CAME BACK kitten THIS kitten MAN

OHHHHHHH K,

so your NEW build is just a GPU and CPU. You are using your old Motherboard and possibly your PSU.

what BIOS is running on your MB. According to ASRock’s website you NEED to be on bios version P1.20 to have an FX8350 installed in your Motherboard.

P1.20? What does that mean? I jsut recentely updated my BIOS but http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Pro3/?cat=CPU shows me exactly what i need no download links to it.. but then theres http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Pro3/?cat=Download&os=BIOS&Model=970%20Pro3 that has download links, should i just get 1.90?

I already have 1.90 on my computer

I didnt look at your BIOS versions, as there are different versions of that board. You need to MATCH the model number with the BIOS download PERFECTLY, else you risk Bricking your BIOS and wrecking the board.

Open the case, and look for the model number (generally between PCI-E Slots) and record the entire string on paper, including any ver, ref, series number that may follow.

use that to find the proper bios version for your Board.

In the current bios you should be able to see what version is installed. p1.20 is the first BIOS that they released to fully support the FX8350 CPU.

While the previous BIOS might work with that CPU, the P1.20 will probably address performance issues and include the proper ref machine ID/UID codes the bios will use to properly ID the CPU.

This is where you now need to start, verify your system board version, verify your BIOS version vs what the current latest is. If the latest is newer then update the BIOS and start troubleshooting from scratch.

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kitten ME IT ALL CAME BACK kitten THIS kitten MAN

OHHHHHHH K,

so your NEW build is just a GPU and CPU. You are using your old Motherboard and possibly your PSU.

what BIOS is running on your MB. According to ASRock’s website you NEED to be on bios version P1.20 to have an FX8350 installed in your Motherboard.

P1.20? What does that mean? I jsut recentely updated my BIOS but http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Pro3/?cat=CPU shows me exactly what i need no download links to it.. but then theres http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Pro3/?cat=Download&os=BIOS&Model=970%20Pro3 that has download links, should i just get 1.90?

I already have 1.90 on my computer

I didnt look at your BIOS versions, as there are different versions of that board. You need to MATCH the model number with the BIOS download PERFECTLY, else you risk Bricking your BIOS and wrecking the board.

Open the case, and look for the model number (generally between PCI-E Slots) and record the entire string on paper, including any ver, ref, series number that may follow.

use that to find the proper bios version for your Board.

In the current bios you should be able to see what version is installed. p1.20 is the first BIOS that they released to fully support the FX8350 CPU.

While the previous BIOS might work with that CPU, the P1.20 will probably address performance issues and include the proper ref machine ID/UID codes the bios will use to properly ID the CPU.

This is where you now need to start, verify your system board version, verify your BIOS version vs what the current latest is. If the latest is newer then update the BIOS and start troubleshooting from scratch.

Alrighty ill do all of that right now

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I just reread most of this thread, It really sounds like the system board isn’t communicating with the CPU properly. Probably due to the BIOS.

You are using the SAME Motherboard that you upgraded your system from. It was working perfectly on the old CPU/GPU.

that really tells me its a BIOS code issue at this point. So updating the BIOS should resolve this.

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I just reread most of this thread, It really sounds like the system board isn’t communicating with the CPU properly. Probably due to the BIOS.

You are using the SAME Motherboard that you upgraded your system from. It was working perfectly on the old CPU/GPU.

that really tells me its a BIOS code issue at this point. So updating the BIOS should resolve this.

the BIOS is updated to the very latest it can be.

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Ill reinstall and flash the bios and see what happens i guess

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K so my bios version is completed updated again. All my drivers are good.

The original bios is 1.10 btw and there wasnt much written on my mb besides that

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Your mobo? hmm
1. Set as only 4 cores

GPu pikes from 60 to 20% – CPU pikes (from 4Ghz to 1Ghz)

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Your mobo? hmm
1. Set as only 4 cores

GPu pikes from 60 to 20% – CPU pikes (from 4Ghz to 1Ghz)

Explain how you do this correctly?

Also this game barely uses 1 core in the first place right

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Your mobo? hmm
1. Set as only 4 cores
- if no pikes
1.1 – BIOS – Set 8/4 cores 4.0Ghz set 1.28V set LLC (load line cal.) ON- all power saving settings ON!
1.2 – test Prime 95 10min (max FFT-test)- check CPU speed (pikes)
1.3 – If stable lower voltages if not higher voltage

4 cores will be enough – you will be able to get lower V and higher OC

i have Fx 6300 – using 2M/4C – 3.5Ghz 1.1V

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QSqpLlp8E same bios?

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alright thank you

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Your mobo? hmm
1. Set as only 4 cores
- if no pikes
1.1 – BIOS – Set 8/4 cores 4.0Ghz set 1.28V set LLC (load line cal.) ON- all power saving settings ON!
1.2 – test Prime 95 10min (max FFT-test)- check CPU speed (pikes)
1.3 – If stable lower voltages if not higher voltage

4 cores will be enough – you will be able to get lower V and higher OC

i have Fx 6300 – using 2M/4C – 3.5Ghz 1.1V

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk same bios?

No not the same bios

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Can you find how to disable your cores? disable 4 cores – set voltage as 1.28V – 4.0GHz -it must be stable

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Can you find how to disable your cores? disable 4 cores – set voltage as 1.28V – 4.0GHz -it must be stable

He does not say anything about that…

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I did not see anything in my BIOS that let me do that either

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Bios-advance- CPu configuration ?

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Bios-advance- CPu configuration ?

Okay im there right now…

Cool n quiet on
Enhanced Halt State off
Secure virtual machine on
Core C6 mode on
CPU thermal throttle on

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Disabling thermal throttle.. ill see if that fixes it.

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Your mobo is weak – you need to change it
can you tell me the name of the store from where your buying PC components

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i know it is weak lol

Newegg of course

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You want asrock board? or the cheapest like gigabyte?
I suggest you to get GA-970A-UD3/P

Go to bios – OC tweaker – CPU Active core control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBuGCkbgPcM
6:04

CPu configuration
1.****
2.****
3.CPU Active core control- try to change it

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Alright changed it to 4 cored

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Now one more thing disable turbo core
set CPu clock to 4-4.2GHz – go to win 7
download AMD overdrive,HWinfo and prime 95
-http://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
-http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/amd-overdrive/Pages/overview.aspx
-http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=205

with AMD ovderive you will be able to lower V with prime you will do test with HWinfo you will watch throttling

when you get max minimum stable V 10 min in prime maximum FFT test go in bios and set it

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okay i got 4 cores and disabled AMD turbo core… 4200MhZ overclocked right now. About to download those programs

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“when you get max minimum stable V 10 min in prime maximum FFT test go in bios and set it”

This makes no sense to me

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what is you auto Vcore? – you can see it in HWinfo

Your Cpu will be stable with less – set that V in bios