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Posted by: GreenRipper.6432

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I’m a player of wvw and I would have a PC with a setting where I could play with good quality and FPS above 30.
I own a computer with the following configuration:

- AMD FX4 4Ghz
- GForce GTX 560 SC
- 8 GB RAM
- SSD 120 gb “D” class

Currently wvw can play with the textures of the characters off and with an average of 30 FPS. In large zerg I get 10 FPS.
What could I improve to get the textures activate and maintain 30 FPS?

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Posted by: ikereid.4637

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upgrade your CPU. AMD is terrible for performance in this game.

If you want more FPS in the zerg content, you need to go Intel. And even then, you are not looking at more then 25FPS with an i5-4670K. On my i3-2120 I can get 18-20FPS in a ‘worst case’.

Just to give you an idea.

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Posted by: GreenRipper.6432

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Thanks for answering so fast!
So I changing my motherboard and processor to an i5 4 generation, I can now get about 25 fps on a good setup wvw with chart?

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Posted by: locx.6412

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That’s pretty much it, but it varies though. I have my 4670K overclocked to 4.6 GHz and it drops down to less than 20 fps at times, but it takes quite a big fight for it to happen.

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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You can try to OC that CPU – maybe is golden and set
character model limit – low
character model – lowest
reflection – sky & terrain
Shaders – low
Shadows – low
everything else is maxed out

Kinda get 18-30 fps in large fights

FX 6300 4.5Ghz – if you get FX 4300 to 5.0Ghz or higher
Lets say that 4th gen is about 50% faster in single core performance than FX.
i5 4th gen at
3.0Ghz = 4.5Ghz FX 4300
3.4Ghz = 5.1 Ghz FX 4300

so if your cpu is great OC-er you may keep this cpu to 2015 … and then get i5 (K)

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You can try to OC that CPU – maybe is golden and set
character model limit – low
character model – lowest
reflection – sky & terrain
Shaders – low
Shadows – low
everything else is maxed out

Kinda get 18-30 fps in large fights

FX 6300 4.5Ghz – if you get FX 4300 to 5.0Ghz or higher
Lets say that 4th gen is about 50% faster in single core performance than FX.
i5 4th gen at
3.0Ghz = 4.5Ghz FX 4300
3.4Ghz = 5.1 Ghz FX 4300

so if your cpu is great OC-er you may keep this cpu to 2015 … and then get i5 (K)

False info here.

And im going to start demanding screenshots of your AMD systems from this point on.

Desktop: 4790k@4.6ghz-1.25v, AMD 295×2, 32GB 1866CL10 RAM, 850Evo 500GB SSD
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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I can record it if you want
How much faster then?

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Posted by: ikereid.4637

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I can record it if you want
How much faster then?

Intel is 2:1 to AMD in average for single threaded performance. Thats more then 50%.

Desktop: 4790k@4.6ghz-1.25v, AMD 295×2, 32GB 1866CL10 RAM, 850Evo 500GB SSD
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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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And thats bullkitten

Look at BF4 – optimized for quad cores – i now that it is stupid comparison no need to tell again

FX 4300 min. 49 – avg.67
i5 4670k min. 72 – avg. 95

- 50% faster should be
min. 73.5 – avg. 100.5

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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You can try to OC that CPU – maybe is golden and set
character model limit – low
character model – lowest
reflection – sky & terrain
Shaders – low
Shadows – low
everything else is maxed out

Kinda get 18-30 fps in large fights

FX 6300 4.5Ghz – if you get FX 4300 to 5.0Ghz or higher
Lets say that 4th gen is about 50% faster in single core performance than FX.
i5 4th gen at
3.0Ghz = 4.5Ghz FX 4300
3.4Ghz = 5.1 Ghz FX 4300

so if your cpu is great OC-er you may keep this cpu to 2015 … and then get i5 (K)

False info here.

And im going to start demanding screenshots of your AMD systems from this point on.

Also going to draw the line here. No screenshot, I will also declare your information as invalid.

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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Just let him try if he will be happy with performance he can wait for “broadwell” or get more money for K model

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Posted by: GreenRipper.6432

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My processor has OC. Originally it would have 3.4 ghz and is 4.2GHz, I tried to put more, but failed. I increased the voltage and did not work well.

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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I can help you to OC futher but first i need to know which Motherboard and CPu cooler you have – if you want

also try those settings

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Posted by: GreenRipper.6432

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My motherboard
MB GigaByte to AMD GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ Box

Processor
AMD Bulldozer FX-4100 3.6GHZ 12MB AM3 Black Edition FD4100WMGUSBX

Cooler
Cooler Zalman CNPS10X Extreme w/LED (1366/ 1156/ 1155/ 775/ AM3/ AM2+/ AM2)

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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hehe you CPu cooler is almost the most expensive
so you are running 4.2GHz
little hard to get it higher with that MB….

What is your voltage for 4.2ghz?

and did you download win7 fix for bulldozer

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Posted by: ikereid.4637

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My motherboard
MB GigaByte to AMD GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ Box

Processor
AMD Bulldozer FX-4100 3.6GHZ 12MB AM3 Black Edition FD4100WMGUSBX

Cooler
Cooler Zalman CNPS10X Extreme w/LED (1366/ 1156/ 1155/ 775/ AM3/ AM2+/ AM2)

You might end up running into issues OC’ing using that Zalman cooler. I have the 5x and It would not keep my 955BE@4.2ghz under 80C’s during prime95 Tests. I had to upgrade to Prolimatech to get my temps down to 60c’s

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242032

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242033

I have since moved that Cooler over to my i5-4670K, since my Water system’s Pump Died, and it remains a very stable Air HSF. And if you are going to OC, I highly suggest this unit.

Desktop: 4790k@4.6ghz-1.25v, AMD 295×2, 32GB 1866CL10 RAM, 850Evo 500GB SSD
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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sirsquishy – FX 4100 is easy to OC even with stock cooler you can get it to 4.2Ghz

I was running FX 6300 4.2Ghz on stock – yes it was loud but neveg gone over 62C even under prime 95

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Posted by: ikereid.4637

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sirsquishy – FX 4100 is easy to OC even with stock cooler you can get it to 4.2Ghz

I was running FX 6300 4.2Ghz on stock

yes, the AMD stock coolers are nice.

However that post is NOT running an AMD stock cooler. He is running a Zalman 10X cooler.

Desktop: 4790k@4.6ghz-1.25v, AMD 295×2, 32GB 1866CL10 RAM, 850Evo 500GB SSD
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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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Are you crazy? AMD stock coller is good?
Phenom stock cooler and FX stock cooler is totaly different only FX 8*** has same cooler as phenoms
http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/amd-motherboards-and-cpus/50299-new-build-using-amd-fx-4100-a.html

first thing that is keeping down his OC is MB – vrm and really cheap design but it is OKAY…

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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like i said use these settings
If i were you i would keep this PC (CPU/GPU) until 2015/2016… your build CPU+MB+Cooler still cheaper than i5 4670K … Then replace it with the best next gen CPU for this game maybe they will optimize this game – you never know

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Posted by: ikereid.4637

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sirsquishy – FX 4100 is easy to OC even with stock cooler you can get it to 4.2Ghz

I was running FX 6300 4.2Ghz on stock – yes it was loud but neveg gone over 62C even under prime 95

This is you being quoted saying that the stock AMD coolers are fine to OC with.

I agreed with you…..

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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FX 4/6*** stock cooler is crap – understand that
… mine was so loud so i had to bought new one
Yes i have bad luck with this CPU – so bad overclocker

but still intel stock cooler is better than amd stock cooler (talking about FX 4/6***)

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Posted by: XFlyingBeeX.2836

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GreenRipper.6432
like i said download win7 fixes for bulldozers and change that settings should run just fine

in large zerg I get 10 FPS – will do same with FX 4300 at 3.4Ghz

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Posted by: GreenRipper.6432

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Thank you for the feedback

I did not change the voltage, any voltage change that I have tried has failed, it does not accept and does not restart PC anymore, so I have to reset the BIOS.

Currently I’m using windows 8, this fix from AMD for w7 can also be used in this version?

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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No, Windows 8 ships with those ‘fixes’ already.