Guild Wars 2

I don’t understand this, regardless of how you phrase it.

The way it’s phrased in the store, old players have to buy the same game twice just to enjoy the expansion.

The way Omega Zoa phrases it, new people coming to GW2 essentially get an entire free game with every purchase, while old players get nothing (well, one character slot – big whoop).

Either way, it seems like the oldest, most loyal players, who’ve been here since day one get shafted in favor of attracting new players.

Thanks for nothing, I guess.

If I took part in the Karka event but didn’t get a reward, and didn’t get any mail either, should I contact support?

I’ve been told by people who weren’t even online during the event that they got their reward in the mail, but I was in the event and got nothing…

The guardian skill Judge’s Intervention also causes problem this a lot.

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u just need to put a little more effort into finding a group imo.

Even if it was super easy to find a group in 10 seconds, that doesn’t change the fact that the basic formula I posted (time + effort = reward) is grossly disproportionate between dungeons. Any cat can run AC or CoF quickly and get good rewards, but for Arah or CoE you need either a lot more time or a much more experienced team, while the rewards are the same or even slightly less. It doesn’t make sense no matter how you look at it.

I don’t understand why Arenanet doesn’t seem to get some of the most basic aspects of their own game. It’s almost impossible to find a decent group for dungeons like Arah or CoE these days, even within my own guild, because they take a lot more time and skill (effor) than places like AC or CoF. Despite this, the reward isn’t any better than other dungeons (in fact, AC and CoF actually give better rewards for the time spent). So for most people there is not a single good reason to do these dungeons.

Meanwhile, places like AC and CoF take very little time and effort relative to the other dungeons and give good rewards, so (besides FotM which is in a unique position right now) they’re pretty much the only dungeons you can find a decent party for at any time.

For people like me and others who didn’t get their Orrian set early on when people were still interested in doing things besides AC and FotM and have to grind up a kittenload of tokens just to get the shiny armor they want, it’s being made almost impossible to find a group because everyone else either already has their armor or doesn’t want it, and the other rewards of these dungeons are simply not worth it compared to the alternatives.

This problem is made even worse by the fact (and this is a bit of a separate topic but I’m going to say it anyway) that dungeon tokens are the only possible way to get certain armor sets. I remember back in GW1 when I really wanted the Kurzick armor, so I needed a bunch of Amber Chunks. To get them I could choose to grind faction points in PvE in a number of different ways, earn faction points in PvP Alliance Battles, or even make a lot of gold and buy the Amber Chunks straight from the marketplace. In GW2 I have no choice but to run the same dungeon again and again, which as I said is being made very hard by the fact that almost noone has any interest in doing so, and I can’t do a thing on my own.

And yes, I fully realise that I don’t -need- Orrian armor to enjoy the game, and that I can just choose -not- to spend all day trying to get a party for Arah. It’s just a shame that entire dungeons are being ignored just because Arenanet doesn’t have the slightest grasp on basic ingame economics.