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It is really surprising to see what people thinks about us Gunnar Holder.
We are definitely fewer players. Nevertheless, we often successfully defend ourselves even though we are outnumbered.
How can you be proud of a victory when the opponent plays with a lot less players.
Yesterday at 03:00 clock we have a small group of 10 men that resisted for a long time even though the opponents were 20 men +!
That may be fine for small masses. But not to primetime when the enemy has effectively 3x more players.
The truth is, many server above us wins ONLY because they have more players. Once the opponent has the same number of players, and the opponent is coordinated, they lose!
The mass make the difference!
I still want to thank all of you who fought so bravely in the last month. This despite the enemy numerically often looked unbeatable. Gunnar’s Hold will now probably go under completely, or the server will be complete only PvE oriented.
All surviving I hope you’ll still enjoy the game and have fun.
Yes have fun. Should that not be the reason why we all play? Oh yes there was something … ^^
Thanks guys for your answers/replies! And thanks also for pushing this Threat!
GUNNERS HOLD – We will not give up!
Sorry. I do not want to attack anyone personally, but …
I wrote this thread to motivate the Players that still are on Gunnar’s Hold, and definitely not for motivating to switch Server.Well good. Then don’t. No one is attacking you.
A friendly invitation to join our forums is hardly a motivation to switch servers.
Then Thanks for the invite and good luck!
PS: At the moment everything is a threat to Gunners Hold!
Posted this in the other thread, but if you guys and gals in KISS are interested, you can join our server forums here:
Welcome to EBay and let me be the first (here) to welcome you to our community!
Sorry. I do not want to attack anyone personally, but …
I wrote this thread to motivate the Players that still are on Gunnar’s Hold, and definitely not for motivating to switch Server.
Thank you Guys for supporting so greatfull this thread!
GUNNERS HOLD – We will not give up!
Having spent the entire week playing on Gunnar’s Hold with a few friends, I noticed something that really astonished me.
Gunnar’s Hold is a Tier 6 European server, we came from Sanctum of Rall a Tier 2 US server. Yet I will say that the average player on GH is significantly better than the average player on SoR.
I have to imagine it’s because you guys are a lower pop server with a numbers disadvantage that you’ve had to develope skill in order to survive, but you’re not going to find that same skill level on the more populated US servers. We can’t get people on Teamspeak or Mumble, we can’t get them to carry supply, we can’t get them to build siege, they just want to hack on walls with swords.
I really think a week from now you’re going to want to transfer back. I know we are considering staying here.
Thank you for the compliment. I hope you integrate as quickly as possible with us. Such motivated players are always welcome.
Do not leave us. You will not regret it. We are not many, but many of us are very valid player!
Good Luck! .)
The problem
The key problem is transfers. They shouldn’t exist at all. We’ve had a lot of guilds jumping from server to server and the automated ranking system can’t keep up, even when it’s a one week gap between jumps.The solution
We need transfers to be locked down for long periods (3 months, maybe more, imho).We have to pray to Arenanet for this solution to be implemented yesterday, a month ago, even!
Consequences we have to deal with now
Our server is placed way higher than it deserves to be. It will go down the list, but in the meantime, we’re going to get a buttkicking like no other (again). I like irony.
The problem with these consequences is that with transfers still available, people might transfer again, 20 GOTO The Problem.
Frankly, and this is my opinion, it’s good to get rid of these easy-life (yes, even moving to a lower ranked server with higher WvW population is easy-life) quitters. I think we’ll get down to a core of WvW players (I’m not going anywhere) who have the balls to man up and take it, and we’ll be stronger for that. It’ll be a challenge to scrape ourselves off the bottom of the ladder
Where have you found the piece of paper with my thoughts that you write it in here! ;P
/sign 100%
Problem is – the WvW focused people who remain behind will find it increasingly difficult to find like-minded people and also be more likely to move.
It’s a vicious cycle – because even if the tough get going, the sheer number of tough people will cause issues. It might turn a server into a PvE server.
Yes I agree with you, this could really happen. I still hope that we can make it.
I wish you best of luck in achieving your goal! You’ll see, you will learn to work together even better than those servers that are just zerging around. In the end your players will be much better WvW players because they have no choice than to adapt (or flee the sinking ship).
Best wishes from Aurora Glade, who had the same problem some time ago!
Thank you very much! I wish you a glorious future!!
First of all Hi everyone!
First I want to say that I am not a guild leader or a commander. I’m just a normal Gunners Hold Player.
As many already know, yesterday Kiss has left Gunners hold.
The main reason is the small number of players from the server. I think this argument is quite justified, wishing no criticism. Each guild should play wherever it makes more fun for them.
That such a huge guild is leaving us brings consequences. (I think this is normal)
We are now going to definitely lose a few positions in the WvWvW-Ranking.
What does that mean for us? How do we counteract?
We are inferior to most enemy servers numerically!
Now it is very important that we stick together.
It is even more important that our active commanders now move the masses. (Can we even talk yet of masses on Gunners Hold? LOL xD)
We have many good players on Gunners hold. We must now learn to transfer from smaller teams to a mass, so we can still be successful as a minority.
Cooperation, cohesion and motivation are now our magic words!
I hope I can motivate some of the other players to continue to fight for Gunners hold.
It is far too easy to call oneself a “Gunners Holder” if everything goes well.
A true Gunners Holder proves itself when the ship begins to sink.
Never forget: “When the going gets tough, the tough gets going”
I hope many support my opinion!
PS: Sorry for my bad english!
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So this could be the reason why we are losing so much?
So is this the beginning of the end?
I feel that we are inferior.
Above all, on the number of players!
Hello Guys!
I’m playing my Chars on Gunnars Hold.
The last few days were hell.
We are dominated by the enemy.
Could it be that many players leave the server? (GH)
Does anyone know anything about it?
Many thanks for reply’s.