Guild Wars 2

Sea of sorrows open

need NA, anyone?

I’ve been waiting for 5 days for an uncontested Balth temple, seriously is this ever open in NA? :S

Chopps.5047:

Awarw.5081:

Chopps.5047:

Awarw.5081:

I’m so happy I re-rolled to a guardian after giving up waiting for ranger to get fixed, this patch fixes nothing important.. ranger remains shelved.

Good, have fun with boon hate and boon stealing. See ya!

I only play PVE, so yeah… I will continue having fun

I have fun with ranger in pve (dungeon master, sets of weapons or armor from each dungeon, beat Simin when Simin was in her hardest state to kill, FOTM level ~30 before I got bored of it). I’m sorry you don’t have the knack or fortitude to play such a difficult class. If it’s too hard for you to not be carried, I can see why you’d play gaurdian.

I mained ranger since the head start until about a month ago and finished all the dungeons on exp and got to fotm 20. It’s not that I’m bad at the class it’s that the main class mechanic (pet) does not work with the way combat in this game is designed in PVE/Dungeons. Rangers bring nothing to the table for a team apart from limited CC, survivability and sub-par unreliable DPS, it is a selfish class and I felt bad bringing it to groups. My personal opinion of course.

Chopps.5047:

Awarw.5081:

I’m so happy I re-rolled to a guardian after giving up waiting for ranger to get fixed, this patch fixes nothing important.. ranger remains shelved.

Good, have fun with boon hate and boon stealing. See ya!

I only play PVE, so yeah… I will continue having fun

I’m so happy I re-rolled to a guardian after giving up waiting for ranger to get fixed, this patch fixes nothing important.. ranger remains shelved.

Keyska.4105:

Scratch that… I just remembered the SB tweaks are going to be for Thief I think…?
So only LB and GS for Ranger

LB ended up getting nothing, GS got a slight boost to Maul, that was it. The update came and went. ;_;

Keyska.4105:

Well in the recent SoTG they said GS and LB dmg was to low. LB can be spec’d for high dmg but then has bad utility. Something about lowering the GS cds and ramping up the power of the skills. And they went over the Pet resists/fractal etc.
And something About SB getting tweak….

2bh they were very good right before release (to good I guess) they suddenly nerfed them and broke the most viable builds; including the Spirit build.
They reduced dmg across the board, Bows r very weak compare to then.
Its just the drastic change showed how the ranger traits are not the best; set up etc.

I get them saying they don’t want to split pvp and Pve versions of skills… But tbh they should have a while back. They don’t want people getting confused and to be able to flow from pvp and pve at will with same skills…This is bad thinking.
There are lots of players that prefer 1 or the other and they are always getting a nerf because something in pve brakes the pvp or vic versa.
Its pretty standard now a days that you have to have 2 sets…

They said they want to get everything balanced before adding more skills or traits…But doing just that will unbalance them all again anyway lol…

I have to say though its not as broken as most people say… Matter of fact there are Melee and Range that kitten in pvp…
Then again I understand its annoying not to be able to play the way you want; which they promised players.

I think they need to give in and start bringing certain gw1 elements to the game; I means tons of things worked really well or was the bread and butter that made gw1 what it was; and they just drop it when making gw2..makes no sense.

Pvp is not the sport ppl thought it would be and the lack of skills is beginning to wear on people… Why not just open the skills up and let people change them as pleased like in gw1…

I say this extra stuff because I think this does affect the classes over all.

I even think (I thought no Trinity was so great) they should bring a trinity back in.
I only say this because its to chaotic; the game lacks a certain structure.
Or at the least give us the same skill system as Gw1. I would had so much more fun in the game collecting skills.
Sry shutting up now..

Rangers start around 55 min in:
http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/b/377719641

I loved the satisfaction of capturing the elite skills in GW1, also being able to respec on the spot and saving build templates to load up easy was great. Lack of skills that actually feel like they do something is the main problem here, most fights are just spam DPS so you rarely see anything other than everyone slowing sapping away health bars (is it just me or is every mob in a dungeon a dps sponge?). Whereas in GW1 you specced DPS and you’d actually feel like you were hitting things and making a difference, that feeling is just missing from this game… it’s hard to explain. Healing is too passive (again, no feel/effectiveness to it), interrupting was done much better in GW1 (how you could see the skills being cast). I don’t know, just feels like the weight of weapons and the satisfaction of seeing your character affect the battle in someway is missing in what is basically a big cluster of DPS spamming and watching health bars slowly chip away.

Chopps.5047:

What build are you using?

I’ve geared and tried every major ranger build (PVE) BM, SB/LB Berserker, Trapper. Each one is far outdone by other classes.

Nothing important has been addressed. Only things that happen are fixing the descriptions of skills, slowing our SB dps, boosting underwater skills, and the rest is barely noticeable and irrelevant to what we actually need fixed. It’s QQ for a reason.

Our utilities are near useless/broken, our traits are messed up and ineffective, we have no group contribution, our damage is mediocre, our main class mechanic is unreliable and clunky. I’ve played ranger since launch and these are problems that haven’t been addressed in the many months this game has been out for. I feel guilty because if I bring my ranger to a group I know I’m letting them down even if I perform with my best build. That’s the problem I have anyway.

Venereus.9473:

Awarw.5081:

I took the advice of most of the posts in this thread and rerolled even though it’s going to take me ages to level (too broke to level through crafting). Anyone got any fast leveling tips? Made a guardian and even at lvl 15 I’m seeing how much more useful it is than ranger and how selfish and weak of a class ranger really is, brings literally nothing to groups. Which is sad because he’s been my main since the head start and fully geared up, what a waste.

Try to follow the personal story quests and close the gap of level requirements by completing map areas. Level 20+ you can be decent in WvW and running with the zergs racks up experience fast. Around level 50+ you should considering jumping to 80 through crafting. Jeweler (up to 375), Cooking and Artificer are really cheap to level, and once you reach level 70 you should choose one crafting profession that you actually want to use and level it to 400 for the last ten levels. Each crafting profession from 1 to 400 yields ~10 levels worth of experience, and with a Crafting Booster it can go up to ~15.

Cheers, so i take it zerging in WvW is basically just tagging mobs right? So bring aoe skills, etc. ?

I took the advice of most of the posts in this thread and rerolled even though it’s going to take me ages to level (too broke to level through crafting). Anyone got any fast leveling tips? Made a guardian and even at lvl 15 I’m seeing how much more useful it is than ranger and how selfish and weak of a class ranger really is, brings literally nothing to groups. Which is sad because he’s been my main since the head start and fully geared up, what a waste.

Pedra.4381:

Awarw.5081:

There’s no point complaining and hoping for a magical fix because it’s just not going to happen, let’s see what we can come up with.

And somewhere in Bellevue, an ArenaNet developer chuckles, smiles approvingly, and tells his cubical mates, “See? I told you”.

I’ve decided it’s time to just accept it. I’m not rerolling a different class, because honestly it’s just not fun to play through something that was dull and dragged on in the first place (1-80 kill risen for hours on end and farm the same events forever). This is where we are at and it’s not going to change significantly. If it was important to the devs it would have been fixed by now as they’ve been aware of the problems but not addressed any of them at all. I think we should try and figure out what works best for our class as it is, rather than continue complaining and getting our hopes up each month.

It’s obviously been way too long since we were promised fixes/improvements and it’s not happened at all. We had nerfs, underwater combat, and slight dps to GS instead. So, what now? I’ve accepted the fact that our situation will not improve, if it was going to it would have by now. I’m creating this thread to see if people have any suggestions on viable builds, or at least the best we can do with what we’ve got.

PVE or PVP, if anyone has any effective builds, tips or suggestions I’d be interested to hear what you have. There’s no point complaining and hoping for a magical fix because it’s just not going to happen, let’s see what we can come up with.

“Hi everyone,
While we understand your frustration and how the class you are playing not working properly affects your gameplay, there is no need to create another thread in this subforum.
We will remind the team about the state of the Ranger class, but you can be sure they are working on it.
We are going to close this thread. Again, thanks for the reminder and sorry for all the problems.
Thanks for your understanding.”

Posted by a mod in the Ranger Bug thread. I’m honestly just thankful to hear something, our constant threads expressing our disappointment and frustrations have at least been enough to get a little bit of a response. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Thank you to the Mod for explaining rather than just locking another thread without addressing our concerns in any way.

We should keep up the threads expressing our concerns, it seems like it might be getting us somewhere (might). My question to you rangers is how long is too long to wait? They are apparently working on it, but we’ve been let down again and again with no improvements and no official comment in months.

Lévis.5489:

This video is 4 months old, and guess what? It is still in full motion with each new patches.

http://youtu.be/htHRErZM7QM

Anet said that there will be a major ranger update ala elementalist , ritualist and mesmer updates back during the Guild Wars 1 days. Guild Wars 2 had time to get released.

That video is excellent.

They aren’t listening at all are they? We just need someone to tell us something, it’s not much to ask. Just tell us if it will never be fixed, tell us if it will take months and months to address, just so that we know whether we should stick to it or if we are wasting our time and to roll a different class all over again. Don’t they understand our frustrations? It’s an unfinished class that shouldn’t have been released. If it won’t be fixed by mid 2013 I’d like to know so I don’t waste my play time for another number of months waiting for nothing.

Wow, I posted this in the General Discussion forum in the hopes it would get some attention or proper response because we are all sick of being disappointed. However, it’s been moved into the ranger forum now, tucked away where Anet never care to look. Thanks…. I want to love this game I really do, but I don’t think it’s fair that just because I chose ranger on release I’ve made a mistake and have to reinvest all that time into a new character if I want to be effective. Very close to quitting and I know I’m not the only one.

We need to hear something Anet, if it’s not being fixed TELL US, if it is WHEN?. We just need to know that you are listening to your customers.

I’d like to hear something from Anet, it’s that horrible feeling that we are waiting around for nothing that is getting to me.

Is there anything that we as a community can do to get this addressed? At least a comment by someone from Anet? It actually feels as though they just said “screw it” and aren’t ever going to bother with it. Stop releasing all this extra stuff that we can’t participate in properly because you haven’t even got all your classes working properly. We don’t want extra content until we have a functioning class! How can they not realise this? It all should have been working since launch. I work full time and don’t have the time or patience to level another character up to 80 just to participate in high end content, it will be quit time for me very soon if this goes ignored any longer.

I’ve mained a ranger since launch and had no idea until recently how pathetic even a full damage specced rangers DPS is. I made an alt warrior, levelled him up a fair bit and can already start seeing numbers greater than a fully geared zerker ranger… this is just sad. Add in the fact that in dungeons pets wipe instantly, 80% of our skills/traits are absolutely useless, and all the bugs involved it makes me pretty mad that we have yet to see or hear anything about ACTUAL improvements and fixes to our pointless class. Shelving my ranger and working on my warrior until I can actually contribute at least something to my team with a ranger.