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Since it’s clear that this is a big concern for players, we’ll fix it.
Interesting response, because it sounds like you’re taking forum feedback as it is and seem to make no distinction between valid and invalid concerns like someone who has no experience of the game mode. Do you play Guild Wars 2 or WvW yourself? In your own words what do you like about it and what you don’t like about it?
From what I’ve seen, it’s a big concern to players from two servers who have coordinated to make a ton of noise about it. Also both servers that are handily winning their matchups and have cooperated in the past to rig T1 matchups so that it can be their exclusive playground.
You know… People from your own server have already said the spawn treb is an exploit and they refuse to allow anyone to use in their groups. I’m not ANet, but I think you are in the minority here.
If you need it that badly “to take back your borderlands” and to “prevent spawn camping” all of the time, maybe your population does not reflect correctly the tier your server is in or you should be making a thread about population balance in WvW instead.
Just my observations…
First, let me say I am having some of the most fun in WvW again since this beta. Meeting new people is refreshing, even if they are enemies. I have already ran into some fun IoJ and AR roamers who were refreshing to fight as their tactics and builds were different from the YB/JQ roamers I knew.
To all who are requesting just the smaller servers being absorbed into the bigger ones, that is a terrible idea. Then you do literally kill those communities. At least, as it is now, ANet is able to have a matchup where T8 and T7 are paired together for a quarter while T1 is left by themselves for a quarter to break up stale pairings if they need to.
As for server identity issues… I am perfectly fine if next week, we are called “Eredon Terrace” and BG becomes the “secondary server”. I would encourage it even. I think, from the weekend alone and meeting ET, most on BG would agree. Can’t speak for other pairings, though. I am not sure how that will affect the ability for transfers into other servers.
Course that changed this week with BG/ET running full time blobs on pretty much every map.
Would that not mean that ET/BG is now also going around stopping your back capping with those small groups with small groups of our own? I am going to say yes, since I have been a part of them running with all the lovely ET, who I must say, are quite fun people to play with… Not to discredit the BG that are starting to roam as well.
I know BG is usually weekend oriented, but I can say our roaming and small group numbers are up since we can afford to drop numbers off our main forces that are currently fighting DK/Chris’s main map blob. At least that was what I saw happening throughout the weekend. The week may be a different story.
I command on my scrapper just fine after the patch. I never used any of the heavily nerfed skills (slick shoes) so my build is still fine. With the stability change, it only got easier for me with the stability my gyros do give.
I also still roam, solo or group, with the same build…. Usually changing only one or two traits as I need for situations.
If you are interested in the build, please feel free to pm or mail me. I am not opposed to showing it to others besides my wvw enemies for obvious reasons.
Hey tattyana. I’m from a PvX guild who mainly focuses WvW on BG. While I would love for you to join my guild, Soul Guard [SG], finding the best fit is always the best I feel. So I highly recommend looking at the BG website here:
There you can talk to most of the WvW guilds all at once to find the perfect place for you on the server. If I can log in tonight, I will send you an in game message as well.
I need to stop posting in sleep deprived mode as I forgot to add in my “incentive to roam” post that, like you guys on YB, we also wish for smaller fights sometimes. In the last month, during NA EST prime when I am normally on, the only guilds I ever saw traveling with 10 or less were you guys in tRex, the occasional ROLL havoc squad, or MnM. Can’t speak much for other time zones…
If someone is offended I missed their group, by all means I apologize but I frankly have not seen you. To the left is my account name and feel free to message me to our little groups together to fight.
Speaking of small squads, whatever happened to KoM on JQ? They were here for like 3 weeks and then magically disappeared. They were a welcomed addition to T1.
Y’know, we don’t have a game without an opposition. Maybe more folks should follow LoneWolfSpectre’s style and get to know some of the folks on the other side. Most of the ones I know are pretty decent people. But you’d never know that from the amount of propaganda that gets thrown around.
^This. In the end, it’s a game. And while I posts angry rants sometimes… I’m more frustrated at ANet. Alpines can’t come back soon enough.
@chorazin I meant no disrespect. It’s just I still hold a personal dueling and small scale fights rule from way back. Ask any SG who was with us before YB came to T1. When I was leading the group of our small scale, I ALWAYS left 1 to res his teammates and “tell the tale” after a fight.
I also can not speak for all of BG. You are correct. MAS used to run small numbers. So did SG. So did a few other BG guilds who ended up being assimilated with HoT and the new guild hall need for items to have our old upgrades back. Our two guilds just decided to recruit and get bigger… I actually have to thank my PvE SG-ians for us being able to have our WvW upgrades as they allowed and supported it.
I have noticed tRex does very little claiming as you guys are a small niche group of pvp/WvW small scale fighters. Most BG guilds, unfortunately, do not have that luxury.
But you also say we are safe to sit in a zerg, but then I told you why. Some of us don’t like dying all the time to more than our numbers. And most nights, I have like 3-4 SG out. I have been trying to run more roaming with my guild as I can. But since we recruited some, not all have the builds nor gear to actually roam. Since HoT came, we went to more zerging gameplay… But in doing so, also recruited more to that gameplay. So you can’t even compare our adding in to our current comp as fights happen. It was already said before that SG now runs fat occasionally. Once again, why I am trying to turn us in to a roaming group we once used to be on nights other than reset. I apologize for my heavy handed attack in my first response…
@Wirriam No problem. I knew the person who added in. I did not know they did till
they fight was pretty much in my favor. I would have lost that as about half way through, I kittened up my rotation from alcohol related reasons. That is why I let that person res. It was out of respect they deserved the win. Just the other person thought I stomped and I don’t control over others than myself. I admit… Looking back now, it was fine as that 1 PPK is nothing. But I personally try to let duelers res on the BLs unless I know they are being kittenters and are only stalling for call ins. “Let 1 live to tell the tale!”
Id say BG needs the opposite of this, they need some small havoc squads. You have all of BG on 1 tag fighting the YB blob. Meanwhile YB also has 3 or 4 small havoc groups roaming around capping stuff looking for fights outside of the push button 1 blob.
Get off the blob tag and out of EB. I was roaming today and YB pretty much owned all of BG and JQ BL’s. All while EB probably had a 20+ queue.
The other issue is guilds who wont leave spawn without like 20ppl. WvW with less than 20 ppl? Inconceivable. We will just wait an hour until more ppl log in.
It’s Thursday… On a week we can’t win in PPT. So we, BG, did a fun event instead. You can’t compare one night to “all the time”. That is drawing from some horrible data.
And you want more roaming groups, but I have been trying to get SG to roam more recently. Yet, when we do meet, YB some how always adds more to any small group fight. What incentive do I have to roam with 2-5 when I know as soon as we see any YB, we will soon be faced against 10-15?
You did this not even 30 minutes ago outside north air keep. It was two trex and one LUN I believe against two SG and one other from BG. We down the LUN guy and you down our random, but then all of sudden 2-3 more trex come out to finish us? What is my kittening incentive to fight small scale if you plus in all the time. I may as well have been on my main force where my supply was useful instead of trying to have a fun skirmish out of north air.
For your records… SG has stopped WvW nights besides reset and the impromptu nights we may have. Many of my guild are getting sick of the game and the feel that Anet will never fix this kitten. The people that log in and play everyday in SG for WvW usually roam till they are being 5v1’ed and then decide to say “kitten it, time to join tag.”
BG also has many micro guilds. The only difference is that they work with the rest of the server, so we end up achieving greater results. My own guild was once in this position, only it has grown now to the point where we can no longer be considered one of those micro guilds.
It’s not necessary that these guilds merge into a larger guild. All it requires is that these guilds are more willing to work together with other guilds on the server.
IE Only follow one tag in ball form. Teamwork at its best.
Or maybe, some guilds don’t WvW every night of the week, but some people in those guilds want to. So they work with other guilds on the server that they know their build at least compliments what they are running.
Or since my guild is not formed up, I can ONLY roam. Nothing else. Have fun alone instead of at least with the rest of the server. Got it.
Seriously… When the kitten did we allow the cancer forums to exist over here?
There used to be UD, SG(Soul Guard), but even those guys ran 15+, apart from that im struggling.
I remember the first reset I did where I had 20 in squad, I was kittening baffled at our numbers.
We used to run 5-7 strong with everyone either being a PU mesmer, thief, or D/D ele… And that was only reset. We were lucky to get 3-4 most other nights. Then HoT came and we picked up numbers to the point where that was not viable anymore.
I do miss fighting you guys in the alpines though. I’m still not kittening sure how Wirriam has not broke his keyboard from jumping everywhere on that fancy charr of his.
I only skimmed much of this before I sleep for the evening and sorry for my pessimistic attitude, but:
1. FAR MORE TRANSPARENCY!
Let’s face it. WvW is in a bad state at the moment. But my concern is your caring about the game mode in general. The last post in this thread from any dev was 5 days ago, and that was from Gaile. I understand she is “the communications lead”, but I would have expected to hear from another dev at least on the wvw team. The dev promise of listening to WvW players has been a long, drawn out myth. We want to know you are on here. We want to know the actual people make decisions see these suggestions and take them into account. I want to know these are not being read via 3rd party to the wvw team with the possibility of a “game of telephone” skewing the results.
To go along with this, the fact during the “Colin Leaving AMA” and your response of our new WvW plans were to big for our scope and scrapped is awful. You told us you were on things for a year+ and now you realized it won’t work. Involve us. I would rather hear “These are excellent ideas, but they have a possibility of being a year+ out due to our mechanics in place.” At least players can offer smaller scale suggestions that they would like to see if told that.
2. FIRDAY RESET!
Bring it back. Seriously. It would make Fridays viable again. I know you have another thread on this already, but once again… despite the overwhelming responses it has received… Not one kittening dev post in there besides the OP dev.
3. STAB CHANGE.
Make melee more relevant. Granted in the choke/pirate meta we have, melee does not have a lot of places to go to not get ranged down, but we still do exist as players. The alpine borderlands gave way to great open field fights as there existed a 360 degree range of going which made those amazing veils we received even more amazing. Does front line push after veil, veil and then feint, or veil and go around. Or just go YOLO and stab up and push in and hope you are more organized than the enemy. I know my reference has a lot of mesmer veil… But right now, mesmer veil is meh as there are so many chokes, you can anticipate the enemy and drop bombs anyways. At least before… You could make them waste most of that.
4. Going off #3… BRINK BACK ALPINE ON REGULAR ROTATION FASTER!
We know you, as a company, “do not like to go backwards”… But ANET kittened up with the desert borderlands. This is a high priority in my eyes to get the alpines back into regular rotation. I may have been sick of the map, but it offered the best fights in WvW I ever had. Desert BLs have an advantage over allowing servers to anvil and hammer each other with tactics, but that is an issue that causes fights to become one sided very quickly. A 36- degree range of motion is always far better than 2 small corridors and an open field back to a keep./tower and camp.
5. REMOVE/INCREASE TIMERS ON TACTIVATORS
Fifteen minutes on Chillin fog for a level 1 lever is awful and overpowered. The same goes for Emergency Waypoint, all banners, and pretty much everything else involved. These, if kept in game, should be increased to an hour long reset time. I thought their original purpose was for defense, but they have become more. Now, an organized server having to defend a keep, can pull chilling fog first and chase the enemy till help arrives. Then, since reinforced with help, can hold out for another 10 minutes with siege till they are pushed and someone pulls the emergency waypoint. Now they can rush and achieve downs till that is over and hopefully stall long enough for another chilling fog and push out the enemy with their numbers they have now before this siege even took place. Pulling levers to win is not fun. I’m a hypocrite here as my guild has done it, but it detracts from all servers and makes the game to who has more money to care about slotting upgrades.
On the flipside, its a great early warning system. In a 5-10 group that got the lord down to 50% HP but suddenly the bar barely even move? A 40+ zerg just walked through the outer doors to defend the keep, gtfo the lords room.
That is honestly beyond useful and great. If 5-10 people somehow manage to get into a keep to “ninja flip it” and it gets upscaled to be unkillable for them, everyone loses. The ninja team is unable to kill the lord and continue with their mission and the incoming zerg gets nothing but time wasted in porting to look. I’m fairly certain this is not how lords work, but if you are correct… This is the literal worst outcome for everyone.
To go on Lethe’s post… I personally would not care so much about the lord HP pool if the tactivators were not such a small cooldown. Chilling fog and emergency waypoint (and banners for that matter) every 15 minutes is stupidly small and will be available for every fight. These cooldowns needs to be upped, if they are to remain, to at least an hour-ish. They should be an “Emergency” lever to get some defense and have them have to remain on the map. Not… Come over to que map to save this objective and then leave.
Seriously… Anet. I give up on you.
1. Banners are awful.
A: They do nothing to influence fights. If a server is winning on the PvD fight for a timezone, they can slot in more of these banners. then, when the next time zone comes to fight on that map, they have two choices…
1. Try to stealth PvD and take an objective before they are noticed. But an emergency waypoint with a capable scout can stop that.
2. Get overwhelmingly bannered down from the amount of enemy banners on the map versus the allies trying to fight and retake objectives.
I one time saw 3 dragon banners hit a group I was with. THREE kittenING DRAGON BANNERS!!! And they still had a a turtle in the back in case we did not wipe. We had the availability for one banner on the map so we just left and said kitten it. That is not productive for WvW. Either increase banners respawn times, lower their usability time for only defense, or remove that crap completely… Maybe only allow 1-2 per map. They are stupid and are not conducive to fights. They are also so “Pay-to-win” that you want smaller guilds to have to buy gold or PvE farm more to compete with larger guilds. I see your NCSoft and “Pay-to-Win” upbringing coming full force here.
2. Class Balance is crap.
A: Rev hammer will still hit for a kitten ton on hammer 1 even after the CoR 4sec CD nerf. Stability is a piece of kitten for most front line classes to the point. Stab needs reverted badly to stop this kitten pirate ship meta. Wanted to make Druids healers but still nerf CA generation off number of heals, not amount so healing power is still meh. You continually kitten up classes left and right. I saw the patch preview for warriors and thieves. I’m still sad.
3. PvE updates before WvW
A: I get it…. Blade and Soul is still NCSoft so you can’t give a care. But WvW is bleeding players. You have given NO kittenING IDEAS TO YOUR WVW OVERHAUL despite us hating the HoT overhaul forced on us. You do not talk to the community. Give us a clue what you plan to do so we can provide feedback. At least we know you heard us. As was said many times before on this forum…. Colin mentioned the WvW overhaul to be in the making for a while and their major concern, but we have no release date. No understanding of what it will entail. kitten! The Reyana interviews you claimed to listen to stopped because you said you can’t be bother to listen to them all because the WvW devs don’t have the time and other devs were listening to them and taking notes. If you can not listen to, at most two hours, a day of our concerns.. What faith do I have you listen to our on these forums?
PS: You moved reset to Saturday for patches… Yet, I have yet to see a Friday patch that would have interfered with reset. You gave up on this mode and either admit it… Or talk to us.
Barsity… We Know……
But We in the Beta are missing out too, I am still missing out, so complaining about how you “Missed” things, ( past tense) is nothing.
You are missing a “beta”… AKA something not yet released and only to be tested. I missed 2/3 of my usual Friday night that is the only time my guild comes together in mass and the rest of the week we have IRL stuff to deal with and maybe only able to get 5-8 people in WvW instead of the 12+ I had.
I miss content that was not meant for this, you missed content to beta test. kitten.
You’re comparing your 2/3 of a friday with my 2/3 of a normal beta weekend… Good job trying.
Your “beta” gives you nothing in rewards, and only for PVE content. Comparing your PVE content to PVP or WvW is kinda worthless. I am, at this point, affirmed you work for ANet. I only wanted to point out their stupidity at doing a beta weekend that affects WvW heavily during the major WvW night for most people on these servers. EU servers exist, and thought T1 has EU players…. They are not on yet. But nope… You continue to say our game mode is not important and we should be ok with it for the better of all… Why? Are WvW players not important? Are we not players of GW2? I don’t get your defense of their stupidity of this patch tonight when affects my and most of my servers (and YB’s and JQ’s) fun. Seriously… I did not sign up for this. I wanted to do reset as per norm…. But nope. ANet kittened me and my server. And enemy servers.
Barsity… We Know……
But We in the Beta are missing out too, I am still missing out, so complaining about how you “Missed” things, ( past tense) is nothing.
You are missing a “beta”… AKA something not yet released and only to be tested. I missed 2/3 of my usual Friday night that is the only time my guild comes together in mass and the rest of the week we have IRL stuff to deal with and maybe only able to get 5-8 people in WvW instead of the 12+ I had.
I miss content that was not meant for this, you missed content to beta test. kitten.
Gaile, is it possible that the HoT Beta is extended by an extra day, or maybe just a few hours, because of this? and some form of compensation to the WvW players? nothing MAJOR. I’m not entirely sure what they could get other than WvW claim tickets xD
Please no. I want this squad UI put away ASAP. It already kittened up my night. As you see, I am still PvForuming because I wanted to play so much tonight, but my guild logged off a while a go, despite being now the time to maybe log if we were tired.
Back in! Thanks Anet:)
Whoa, speak of the devil- my patience paid off. I’m finally back in!
Best of luck to all of you. Waiting’s no fun. Just try to stay positive, okay? See you ingame.
Glad to hear that. Thanks for reporting it — it gives hope to others who also are waiting.
Gaile…. I respect you as someone from ANet… But they are people from my server who were locked out till now and our raids in Wvw are over and are pedantic. But yes. Thank you I know I can log in tomorrow.
You’re forgetting, The expansion is PvE Based.
It contains the ONLY serious WvW update we had in a while… So No. You are wrong!
Barsity,
you really should go try other games if 1-2 hours of downtime once in a blue moon is such a big deal for you. For instance, SWTOR used to bring all the servers down for 2-4 hours every 2-4 weeks just to roll the new build over not mentioning hot-fixes etc.This is literally first long downtime in 3 years and it does not even affect all players. Just sit back and relax a bit while they are working on it, they brought people back to the office on Friday midnight and you still kittening about it is just ridiculous.
That would be fine, if useless, advice on any other night than WVW reset.
This is pretty much it. My guild runs reset in mass. And tomorrow planned to fore go WvW on our T1 server to try out raiding, but now… We had a few locked out and it is dumb that I don’t even know if we can login tomorrow all for PVE content that already has a semi-guide on it on reddit.
I know it seems like Arenanet doesn’t care, but at the current moment, they are trying to fix a UI that will affect a HUGE percentage of their PvE Playerbase,
Why does ONLY Pve matter? Seriously… once again my Mike O’Obrien post comes into play. kitten THAT!
yes messages might have been Helpful, but that is the past
, so They are working to make UI compatible with their PvE content, and I’m sure at some point in the future, After they schedule specific events and etc etc, they will do a WvW based feature Patch or somehting that will make it somehow better, Such as More Maps, Maybe the possibility of more servers fighting eachother at once? hmmmmmmmmmm?
They have been awful at announcing betas for WvW content…. And should have just released it to all to see real “server” beta’ing for realsies. The fact they only selecte certain accounts/guilds for WvW means they give no kittens about beta’ing it for real.
Hey Barsity — the beta is for everyone. We’re sorry that there’s an issue and that it may be impacting your evening, but the team is working hard to get this fixed, and after all, that’s why we’re having beta tests. I guess we just need to ask the patience of all players — beta and otherwise — to get this just right.
Many thanks to Chris for posting to update you guys!
But it ruined my night. I understand you Gaile. I have played GW1 since Beta, but these are ridiculous. Why not spam mass messages what you plan to fix in the game so people know. I am not asking for a long drawn message but a quick “hey we are updating squad ui, so you are aware” would be helpful. You are releasing bug fixes for a beta weekend that affects a part of the game that ANet has already given very little care about. This is very disheartening to me, my guild, my server, and WvW players in general. As I know you can see, I don’t post in the forums ever, but I felt this was bad enough to post about because you literally screwed over many peoples’ Friday nights.
Exactly, and lots of people here in EU seem to be Moaning, I get WVW is the only reason some play the game, but GW2 is NOT a WvW ONLY game, It has HoT for Pve, currently Stronghold is up ( yes ther ehave been bugs witht hat too like being stuck in ther epermanently but no biggie), Nothing can be Perfect, So let them work and do their best to fix this. The more people nag, the slower things get done.
But doing it on a night that affects the biggest amount of WvW players is stupid. Unlike other Betas… Which people sign up for… ANet does them on live servers. That is fine, but I ask you do not mess with most affected game modes while doing it. You keep saying “beta this, and beta that”, but why not run the new borderlands this weekend with squad UI update and allow no server glicko movement. Peopel would still play reset fro WvW… Understand bugs and be less angry… BUT NOOO!!!!!! It’s all for PVE casuals.
EDIT: at this point… I have played borderlands and drank too much rum to give two kittens about spelling.
Yep, I am done………………………
Given the quality control level displayed, I am thinking I should just skip beta weekend and the first week of release of HoT.
I kinda want my money back for this kitten. I am a WvW only player and the fact your beta for HoT stopped my night to command for my guild in T1. I would rather spend my money elsewhere than this kitten.
IF YOU WANTED TO RUN A BETA WEEKEND LIKE THIS…. Why not add in the new Borderlands as well. At least it would be done “live” like you wanted as all of WvW on it and finally get to see it instead of select guilds and accounts. And I would be less angry about being kicked as at least WvW would be beta as well.
Once again… kitten you ANet…
How is this affecting wvw? Commanders were tagged and its reset night.
The new build kicked everyone out of WvW and then they could not get back in. Not sure if you are being sarcastic… But that is the reason.
2. There were two mass messages about the patch 10m and 3m prior to deployment.
But had I known they were kittening with squad UI with 3 patches leading up to WvW reset that did not deal with squad UI as I saw… I would have maybe de-tagged before hand. You say it is not part of this forum and the bug s section already… True. But the fact that they kittened up WvW reset for many people is equally frustrating.
I keep seeing “wvw night” , Well. yes. it’s the BETA WEEKEND,
It’s reset night for WvW… Some people actually give two kittens about it. Apparently Mike O’Brien doesn’t as per his WvW quotes to Reyana.
It’s not Arenanet’s Fault none of this works as intended, they are doing their best, ( When i say arenanet, I mean all of GW2 support, the server managers, and anythign relate dtoi any server under Arenanet’s company)
It kinda is. They dropped a BWE raid that required squad UI when a WvW reset happened. I know they wanted “to test it live” but this is dumb. This is my end-all-be-all they give no kittens about WvW…. Why not revert it so at least commanders can get back in since the radi UI was already closed off for a while before hand. Seriously ANet…. kitten YOU! I want to WvW and can’t.
This is kittening dumb. You already kittened up some fun WvW for me and the rest of T1. Seriously….
Thank you for doing that patch at 11ish EST… The one where all tagged commanders can’t rejoin the game. I understand you only love PvE, and it was “raid” BWE, but this was stupid.
Now that I ranted…. Why could you NOT use the mass messaging system more. Even though the patch did not fix squad UI. It would have been good to tag down before getting kicked out. Now I can’t play the one game mode I enjoy… Or the game at all. I don;’t even kittening know anymore.
Why is there pve in my pvp?
THIS so much… I know my comment in no way furthers this conversation along, but I just wanted to sign my account name to this so ANet knows where I stand. If I wanted to play a MOBA, I would have stayed playing ranked League of Legends.
Relative indeed – 2:1 isn’t a big deal. And it’s fantastic that two-thirds of the way through the tournament you guys realized that you can scatter and do more things in parallel. Although you don’t need 5-10 person teams to take a camp or get bloodlust – that blobby mentality is still there.
I would, mostly seriously but perhaps with a bit of a smirk, recommend that you look up posts detailing small squad tactics, and maybe practice flipping camps solo. Or with a friend if it’s fully upgraded, so that you don’t have swords pop too soon and alert responders.
Good luck, Roman.
Kinda need five to ten sometimes to ensure we took it fast enough. Makes it hard to do small scale when you know the enemy is willing to ALWAYS send a full blob your way as did happen many times to us with bloodlust and assaulting JQ/TC home camps, epsecially north camps. I can’t tell you how many times myself, or my roaming group, attacked a n camp only to have the 40+ come meet us almost immediately.
I’m not saying the 2v1 was bad… I rather enjoyed the adversity of it all… But thinking what usually three or less people can do easily enough in a normal fashion would work against enemies willing to throw blobs at any enemy they see is a little messed up in thinking.