Guild Wars 2

Aww.. I go to sleep to being in the lead and wake up with SoR up 30k from being down 20k when i got off. Oh well, good match.

They are probably just looking to ascend to greater things with us when the new matchup comes. I agree though server transfers are pretty sad.

Dinks.2478:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

Hmm never payed attention to that always assumed the icons were all commander. Not sure why he turned it on after he entered during combat then.

You can’t turn the star off, its the reward for 100% world completion.

first 2 don’t show it.
must be another one of their famous hacks LOL just kidding.

Hmm never payed attention to that always assumed the icons were all commander. Not sure why he turned it on after he entered during combat then.

Sir William PD.9615:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

Sir William PD.9615:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

one of those has a commander icon he puts on a few screenshots later if that helps figuring out who that is for you.

How can an enemy realm see a CMDR icon?

With your eyeballs i suppose.

Very insightful. Thanks for being so helpful.

;p it shows the commander icon over the players head

Sir William PD.9615:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

one of those has a commander icon he puts on a few screenshots later if that helps figuring out who that is for you.

How can an enemy realm see a CMDR icon?

With your eyeballs i suppose.

Enerjak.2475:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

Enerjak.2475:

I did find a location where 2 hack programs for GW2 were being distributed and supported, and reported it to ANet after watching a handful of SoR magically teleport beyond one of our walls.

One was an “all-in-one” package capable of teleportation to waypoints (whether found or not), skillpoint locations, PoIs, etc pre-scripted. It also granted speed alterations by percentile, and added a “no-gravity” function that doubled to allow you to not only fly, but not be blocked by terrain/objects (such as the ground, or a wall).

The other was simply the teleportation script similar to the first, and added a bot function.

Unfortunately as both of these “tools” were reported to ArenaNet as well as the website they are being distributed from, I was asked not to give names or information of how to find them.

However, I should note that while I witnessed particular members of SoR server performing this, I am not incriminating the server. I would imagine some from all servers have found these two (or other) software packages and are using them to exploit the game.

Hopefully with this information as well as the software itself now in ANet’s hands, they can directly counter it, or at least track it. I’ve done my part.

ArenaNet:

We will use the information you have provided to investigate this program. However, as we will not disclose what information we obtain or how we use it, you will likely not hear from us again regarding this issue.

I appreciate your support of Guild Wars 2 and your interest in keeping the game world and the websites associated with the game pleasant for all players.

Regards,
Nick
Guild Wars Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com

Oh really, this is news to me never witnessed or seen any screenshots yet since release of game on SoR. You surely took some screenshots if you saw things like that, who wouldn’t? Could you show so we can keep an eye on them and cleanup our side?

The wife did one better – she FRAPS’s our WvWs together and we’ve it in a video I believe.

I’ll scrounge it up tonight when I get off work and see if I can post it here.

I appreciate that. People like you are always trying to help us out and point out our bad apples that we cannot find but never seem to have a screeny or video.

Enerjak.2475:

I did find a location where 2 hack programs for GW2 were being distributed and supported, and reported it to ANet after watching a handful of SoR magically teleport beyond one of our walls.

One was an “all-in-one” package capable of teleportation to waypoints (whether found or not), skillpoint locations, PoIs, etc pre-scripted. It also granted speed alterations by percentile, and added a “no-gravity” function that doubled to allow you to not only fly, but not be blocked by terrain/objects (such as the ground, or a wall).

The other was simply the teleportation script similar to the first, and added a bot function.

Unfortunately as both of these “tools” were reported to ArenaNet as well as the website they are being distributed from, I was asked not to give names or information of how to find them.

However, I should note that while I witnessed particular members of SoR server performing this, I am not incriminating the server. I would imagine some from all servers have found these two (or other) software packages and are using them to exploit the game.

Hopefully with this information as well as the software itself now in ANet’s hands, they can directly counter it, or at least track it. I’ve done my part.

ArenaNet:

We will use the information you have provided to investigate this program. However, as we will not disclose what information we obtain or how we use it, you will likely not hear from us again regarding this issue.

I appreciate your support of Guild Wars 2 and your interest in keeping the game world and the websites associated with the game pleasant for all players.

Regards,
Nick
Guild Wars Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com

Oh really, this is news to me never witnessed or seen any screenshots yet since release of game on SoR. You surely took some screenshots if you saw things like that, who wouldn’t? Could you show so we can keep an eye on them and cleanup our side?

Akithn.8073:

As a member Rethesis I have not heard about any of this taking place… I will admit I have seen many people using mesmer portals to get past a wall (this is by us hiding a mesmer or the wall being broken down but rebuilt) which I do not believe is against any rules (correct me if I am mistaken). I have not heard about any members hacking at all or doing anything related to this, however if this was indeed someone hacking or exploiting I do apologize on behalf of my guild; we do not advocate this kind of “playing”, if it can even be called that after hacking.

one of those has a commander icon he puts on a few screenshots later if that helps figuring out who that is for you.

Kami.7369:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

lol he was shooting arrows from below the lord and when that wasn’t working he ran out and pulled the lord to the bottom wall where he entered, and the lord stood there for 10 minutes while he tryed that way. We did manage to get his name.# and make an in-game report. I was only able to watch him running back in with the lord on his tail, others managed to click on him to right click report and get his name. His guild tag was something like “Tethis” or “Thetis”.

The only guild I know with a name similar to that on DH is Rethesis, who have been posting in this thread.

Yeah you are right Rethesis is known for the same things out here. Rethesis is the nest of these kinds of players.

lol he was shooting arrows from below the lord and when that wasn’t working he ran out and pulled the lord to the bottom wall where he entered, and the lord stood there for 10 minutes while he tryed that way. We did manage to get his name.# and make an in-game report. I was only able to watch him running back in with the lord on his tail, others managed to click on him to right click report and get his name. His guild tag was something like “Tethis” or “Thetis”.

@Arius

lol denial at it’s finest.

There was never any accusation of someone hacking in that post. It’s not my fault that you managed to come to that conclusion when you read it. No need to twist words this isn’t a courtroom. Let the screenshots do the talking.

Kami.7369:

Did you catch a guild tag?

Also a couple DH guilds are transferring to SoR now =/

No it was alot of DH different guild tags.

That is truely sad if they are transferring over here. They are unwanted for the record.

Here are a few screenshots of another epic assault by 20-30 Darkhaven.
The pro Darkhaven ranger managed to get very close to killing him many times if not for about 10 of us using heals on the lord to undo his hard work.

It took about 20 minutes before the darkhaven zerg showed up after the ranger was most likely calling for them to come secure the keep after he ninjas it. The front of the keep then became a rally point for Darkhaven while 90% of the handful of Sanctum defenders were too focused on healing the lord and trying to get rid of the ranger in our keep. Eventually they hopped on the door due to the rangers failure inside and with no one being able to focus on defending they eventually busted down the door and proudly took the tower with many emotes to show their joy.

Slartibartfast.2170:

I must say that whatever SoR is doing this week, unfortunately is it ruining my experience in WvWvW (a personal problem, you guys are just doing what the game is intended for, and that is to capture everything you can), But it sucks that I cannot log on and even hope to take/hold anything due to the massive amounts of SoR running around.

I don’t see how their numbers could be so bolstered without receiving a bit of transfers, they never seemed have had this many people out before, but what do I know, I am just some guy.

So saying that you don’t have transfers seems fishy to me, but its ok to deny that fact, I still give you guys props for winning. but don’t lie about how you guys are winning, Darkhaven’s WvWvW numbers have seriously declined and SoR have increased. I played last week, I saw who all was out there, I remember how even it was and how un-even it is now.

The reason it seems like SoR is zerging is because of the little numbers SF and DH have, making it seem like the force you are facing is that much bigger. You said DH numbers have declined and that’s all it is right there. Not that they have declined AND our numbers have went up. If that were true our force would be giant.. but it’s usually 20 people and at prime times when 2 servers ARE actually on at the same time it’s about the same amount of players. It’s because your side is currently demoralized and SoR is on top which keeps the PVErs interested and participating too.

When DH lost the lead it wasn’t sudden, it was neck and neck and as they slowly went into second less and less people started playing. If SoR wasn’t in the lead i’m sure less of the PVErs or carebears would not be consistently participating but that’s the way it is. The way I see it is SoR has already won this week and DH/SF have quit now we are just riding out the week.

As for transfers I doubt anyone would want to randomly transfer to this mid ranking match up, if anything they would go to the more popular higher ranking ones. Trust me i would also much like to see a more even match next week. Winning to the point where the enemy no longer wants to play is not much fun for us competitive players either.

Excellent work this week Sanctum of Rall, we have really stepped up our game as individual players as far as communication, upgrading, repairing, placing siege, and just really being aware and dedicated competent players. Now that we have reached our potential after learning from the first weeks since release maybe we will move into a more challenging matchup. Keep up the good work.

Ever since SoR’s hard work grinding for a lead vs DH nightcaps our current server seems to be consistently participating because we are winning. People like to play when they are winning. It’s ok though SoR will be moving out of this tier to a more challenging matchup at the end of this week and it should even the skill level back out.

There is no SoR population surge. Same people here every day. So the root of the problem here is your false wondering.

Just crushed a DH zerg attacking our dreaming bay keep with a last second reinforcement to our 5 defenders right at the altar. Oh i am enjoying myself while you PvE.

Arius.7031:

Loving the match, though I am left to wonder why it has turned around so sharply and suddenly. I know SoR has improved a lot, it’s really quite impressive, but have they really improved that much from an organizational standpoint? Is it more activity in WvW? More players in that server in general? I’m asking SoR players in specific what they’ve noticed that has changed.

I do love this current matchup, but I’m afraid atm it’s not longer competitive. When Darkhaven was top dog at least day time was very competitive. Now, Darkhaven dominates like 2-6am PST, rest is SoR, not much competitiveness anymore T.T.

SoR population seems the same, I still never get a queue time even at peak hours but I have noticed only for a day or so since SoR took lead that there has been less DH during the day anyways. Like you said Darkhaven usually dominates 2-6am and they still do claim most of the map but they don’t hang around very long to defend anything. As far as change in SoR there has been a handful of late night players on to counter the DH force from there usual late night snack. For example SoR has held Etheron Hills for most of the week from late night DH forces reducing their spike of points until our players log back on in the morning and the cycle repeats.

As far as the time difference maybe they should match up servers by peak hours too as well as rank? I know some servers actually strategize and form their sleep schedule around nightcaping unfortunately for darkhaven they don’t seem to have a day time crew. So who knows how to fix it in that case, maybe the issue is the server transferring allowing people to transfer from their current wvw situation rather than adapt to what the enemy throws.

Enerjak.2475:

Sojou.2067:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

Post a screenshot right now, any one of them. You don’t have to accuse anyone of hacking with it just show a simple screenshot of your wvw experience. no? you can’t? what excuse will you type below this? where is the screenshot? right, sure. moving on.

Where in my post did I say I had screenshots? It’s all good anyway, they’ve been submitted. It won’t matter though – since you guys will move on to another matchup now. Congrats on the dominating 48 hour swing after what looked like a promising week of balanced fighting.

You said “We” have screenshots. This automatically implies inclusion of you.

If that’s not what you meant, I highly recommend you edit it to say, “I think someone else has screenshots – at least they said they do and maybe I’ll get them to someday show them to me so I can post them here – and they claim to have submitted them to Anet.”

As the old saying goes… “SS or it didn’t happen.”

@neoxide: There is an alliance of guilds on SF referred to as SR (Sorrow’s Revenge). No clue about SoF or any of the other strange acronyms.

Of course, this assumes they were referring to the alliance, or simply forgot how to put 2 letters together properly.

oh my bad he was saying someone “probably has SS” or he’s been hearing of “SoR probably hacking today”. “someone has the SS probably”.

Sojou.2067:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

Post a screenshot right now, any one of them. You don’t have to accuse anyone of hacking with it just show a simple screenshot of your wvw experience. no? you can’t? what excuse will you type below this? where is the screenshot? right, sure. moving on.

Where in my post did I say I had screenshots? It’s all good anyway, they’ve been submitted. It won’t matter though – since you guys will move on to another matchup now. Congrats on the dominating 48 hour swing after what looked like a promising week of balanced fighting.

lol you seem pretty mad. thank you though we owned this week. maybe next week once you recruit more Rethesis (RE) members on dh side.

Sojou.2067:

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

lol you are sad and low to flat out lie like that. I have been in wvw all day simply taking keeps the right way. Don’t be mad now. Have some honor, rat.

If you say so, kid. We’ve got screenshots, they’ve been submitted to Anet. But sadly there’s no way for us to report specific players since it’s just “Attacker from” and “defender from”.

Post a screenshot right now, any one of them. You don’t have to accuse anyone of hacking with it just show a simple screenshot of your wvw experience. no? you can’t? what excuse will you type below this? where is the screenshot? right, sure. moving on.

Sojou.2067:

Kuthos.9623:

That person just wants to believe that everyone transfered to SoR and that’s the only reason we’re winning. People will come up with excuses anytime they start losing.

Overall it’s been a lot of fun winning or losing. Honestly it was more fun (for me personally) when SoR was behind and we had to fight extra hard to take stuff.

I have noticed an increase in the number of people in WvW but I think that’s just because we started doing really well, and people got word of it. I dont think that many people have transferred here. Not enough to say “you guys only win because people transfered there” heh.

I would say your server transfers helped but it’s not the only reason you’re dominating now.

The main reason is, I was just in WvW watching several people from SoR flying around the map. Going over fort walls, mesmers using glitches to pass through walls, etc… It’s sad that a once highly competitive environment between these three worlds has been ruined by a sizable group of cheaters. Yeah it’s not your whole server, but it only takes a few to completely destroy what balance there was left after SoR got the population boost.

lol you are sad and low to flat out lie like that. I have been in wvw all day simply taking keeps the right way. Don’t be mad now. Have some honor, rat.

About 5pm EST here and SoR has about 15 players total taking the map with not too much resistance.. Not sure where DH and SF numbers are going by they aren’t over here.
It’s the middle of the day where is DH and SF? I can see why all the QQ about DH seeming to get zerged but 15 vs 10 is hardly being zerged, maybe you all need have a discussion with your nightcapper guilds about how that strat is no longer working. SoR has adapted to the nightcapping issue that is the only reason for the sudden point gain. Anything else is just red faced pouting.

malixor.8417:

Hello,
I am the guild leader of Suffer [SFFR] on Darkhaven, some may know me as Katipen (Mesmer) or Malixor (Engineer). I’d like to comment on the recent turn of events between Darkhaven, Sanctum or Rall, and Sorrow’s Furnace. We are currently not in any guild alliance either, because we do not agree fully w/ some of the tactics a few guilds in the alliance use; so these are neutral statements.

1) Last week’s amazing matchup: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sorrow-s-Furnace-vs-Darkhaven-vs-Sanctum-of-Rall-WUVWUV Did we all forget about last week? Our great back and forth battles and very even outcome? We had the closest match up out of every other server match up, envied by other servers… and now, it’s a mess.

2) Hacking: A handful of people abusing flaws in a system and using exploits to gain the upper hand DOES NOT represent an entire server’s population. I’d bet that 99% of Darkhaven would toss these morons into a pit of razors then dump salt on them if we had the opportunity, hopefully Anet will hit them w/ the perma-ban hammer soon. “Counter hacking” and using exploits to “get back” at those people just makes you just as bad as them, you are not fixing the problem… you are escalating it to what our current match up has turned into.

3) Transferring Servers: Transferring servers is not a solution to bad match up, TRANSFERS are the problem. Transfers were supposed to be free for only a short period of time; I do not understand why Anet has allowed them to still be free for this long… Now, the damage these guilds that jump to winning servers have done may be beyond repair. Here is a simple tip: Losing? Evaluate your tactics and fight smarter! Jumping to a winning server and greater a population disparity is not the intent of WvW and its ruining a server’s community. I urge guilds to STAY on their original server and work together… look at last week’s battle, amazing. Darkhaven worked together as one and giving SoR a run for 1st place, how can anyone not want that back?

Rumor: Sorrow’s Furnace guilds transferring to SoR? If this is true… It’s just appalling… Instead of joining SoR because you cannot currently beat them, why not set up an alliance w/ Darkhaven until the points are a bit more evened out. I rarely saw any SF’s players last night across 3 WvW Maps… Just hordes of SoR w/ maybe a small band of SF’s players near their spawn camp. How is this fun for SF’s? Those who transferred off of SF’s are hurting everyone else who on that server who are doing the right thing and staying put. So now, Darkhaven and SF’s are being dominated by SoR or should I say Sanctum of Rall’s Furance. I do not have any way to confirm this rumor… but, from what I’ve seen SF has disappeared during prime-time EST. THIS is a rumor, but it was said in the previous post that there is no confirmation of this.

EDIT: My original post was removed due to calling out certain guilds, I have removed that section and reposted because I believe this needs to be seen.

Did you really just type all of that as a delivery method of slipping in your QQ about SoR being in the lead?

SoR has not noticed any SF guilds or players at all join our side. In fact whenever SF are playing and this is when DH had a decent lead, they would run over and attack bluelake usually being our only tower on the red map.

SoR has not returned any type of hacking or glitching as you sneakily accused us of in this post.

SoR does not plan any kind of nightcaping. In fact our prime time is around 8pm EST. Maybe it’s just a time zone issue but over here in America when i wake up every map, every single tower and keep is usually DH owned which gives you a nice burst of points, which is no longer working due to SoR’s hard work and epic defenses vs greater numbers. You can also see in multiple threads of DH admitting to nightcaping as their main strategy “because they are smarter”. Which isn’t really an issue anyways.

I agree that the server transfers and hacking/glitching are ruining a good game we could be having but don’t try to type out a long post to justify your sneaky accusations you’ve slipped in and discredit SoR’s hard work.

This one is still bugged on Sanctum of Rall world too.