Guild Wars 2

All I’m gonna add now is the fact that I feel sorry for the see-saw, he’s hugging it with gloves made of molten lava.

Debsylvania.7396:

Actually, that’s been there for some time. I was levelling an alt maybe a month or six weeks ago and saw the see-saw there and remember thinking that would be a really cute real-life wood-working project. I don’t remember sitting on it, however… or maybe I did and the sitting animation has changed. Anyway… your character CLEARLY loves that see-saw!

I tried sitting in multiple other positions on it and he sat normally, but in that one he went weird, maybe he does love it. Hope he doesn’t love it enough to get splinters. That would be an awkward trip to the potions merchant.

Just found this see-saw, think it might have been added with Dragon Bash. So just for a laugh I thought I would sit on it at the head end and pretend to ride it, but instead of sitting on it, my character wrapped itself around the dragon’s neck. I think he may be scared of heights.

Lord Krilik.3692:

Isn’t the solution obvious? When you click inspect it should show you the armor and weapons, but not the stats.

OP is asking for a way of seeing what specific armor parts are because he likes them cosmetically. Just have the inspection work on a cosmetic level.

EDIT: Scratch that, I read further down and realised he got all immature about people disagreeing with him and WAS talking about seeing their stats. This counters the design philosophy of the game.

Cosmetics, yes, I’m all for inspection. Stats, no. Your assumptions are not reality.

Hey, I am actually for a cosmetics inspect, rather than a stats one, I just got annoyed that everyone was saying no on a stats viewing basis and the only valid reason they were giving was elitism. I also was in a bit of a bad mood that day with a dungeon because my team sucked real hard and it took me 3 hours to do a dungeon that usaually takes 40 minutes to an hour. Originally though my idea was for a cosmetics inspect button. As I said I just got a bit carried away with arguing.

juno.1840:

Caedmon.6798:

You have no business checking out what gear i wear if im not willing to tell you this myself.I dont like people copying styles from other people,nor do i like people copying builds from other people.

It’s actually a very benign method of learning from others, especially in PvP, but also for PvE. Grouping aside, that’s a beneficial result.

LotRO uses a feature called “anonymous”. When you turn that feature on, nobody can inspect your gear/build in PvP. That’s an alternative to the “ping only” proposal.

Another good idea, or you could use a yes or no feature, so that when you try and inspect someone, they have to click to accept or decline, similar to being invited to a party.

Caedmon.6798:

You have no business checking out what gear i wear if im not willing to tell you this myself.I dont like people copying styles from other people,nor do i like people copying builds from other people.

Did you even read the whole thread, or just the first few, we just decided that a better option is to give players the option to let other players see their gear. Therefore you wouldn’t have to. And just because you don’t like people copying builds, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. This happens all the time anyway.

Oh and for the record, I have no interest in doing the fastest runs possible, it’s just I, like a lot of people don’t always have a lot of time spare to do dungeons, therefore when I play a dungeon, I like to be able to complete it near to the average time, as usually I don’t have much longer than that and I actually want to finish the dungeon for the tokens, so I can buy the gear. So many times have I jumped in a random party and not been able to finish a dungeon and leave because they have taken too long.

Dustfinger.9510:

Torca.5162:

OK I am not taking part of the childish fight. So gonna just post my bit and ignore the rest.

I would like an inspect button. Maybe I am running a dungeon with another profesion same as mine and I see that he/she is doing very well and I would like to find out which stats he/she is stacking.

Now what if there was an option where I can ask that player if he can show me his hero panel? Instead of me just freelancing and inspect everyone. That would be nice and if he agrees he would just link me his hero panel instead of me peppering him with 100 of questions.

This is a great compromise.

I too agree, I didn’t think about this, but this addresses the issue, without making it compulsory, people that want to play in organised teams can ask for the builds and people that are just playing for fun don’t have to. And it provides a way for new players to learn about different builds, without just searching on the internet and finding a million copies of the zerk dps build. This finally is want I intended when I made this post. Constructive views with suggestions of other ways of doing it. Not people fighting and calling each other idiots for having different views. We are supposed to be working together with ANet to find ways to improve the game, not ruling out every option with pointless arguments. Yes my initial idea (not such a unique one as it happens) may not be the best thing if you take it at face value and put a button in. But it can work in other ways such as Torca’s suggestion. Thankyou Torca for restoring my faith in the community.

I am getting really fed up of people saying “my gear is none of your business”. If you are in my team, your gear is my business, if you don’t want me to know what gear you have play on your own, where no-one needs to know. I don’t care who runs what gear. What I need from knowing peoples gear, is how I need to play. 5 people geared for toughness with no power is not gonna complete a dungeon in any less than 3 times the normal amount of time. The worst part is, if no-one will tell you what gear or traits they have, you are going in blind, with no idea of how your team-mates are gonna play. Anyone that doesn’t want you to know what gear they have is either being awkward, or doesn’t want their gear to stop them getting a team. Both of those are bad for team play.

Finally some support for the feature, I was beginning to think no one was in support. And Bright, I had a feeling someone would bring up transmutation crystals. The crystals can only be bought for gems, or occasionally gained through world completion. This means that people using them have invested time into getting them for a particular reason, the main one of these reasons being that the normal exotic gear that can be bought really looks bad (not to everyone mind). My point being that if you have the time and or gold to invest in these crystals, you more than likely have exotic anyway. Not once in my argument however did I mention stat variations in standard armor. It is impossible to tell what stat variation you are using, even without crystals. What i did mention is being able to guess with a 1 in 3 chance, the stats of a set of dungeon gear. But to be fair any stat variation, be it zerk, knight, cleric, etc, can play just as well as a top spec build, so long as their build and skills work well with them. In other games only certain combinations of builds and gear are effective, but in GW2 a warrior can be a healer, or a guardian can be dps. And the best thing is they will be just as effective at it as a top spec dps zerk warrior, as long as they make their build well. Thats why an inspect button would only cause elitism for idiots and people that dont deserve to play the game. Personally I run Zerk armor, with runes for toughness and power and a build that gives me might on criticals, but i also have a hint of support in there as well, as my banners heal, and when i get a critical with a rifle I have a 60% chance to cure conditions on allies. My accessories are based around toughness and my traits for vit and precision. So I am not an elitist player by any means, but I can’t stand people that try to hide their gear from me, thinking that I won’t accept them, or trying to hide the fact that they are spec’d entirely for MF. Having an inspect button to stop MF players getting into dungeon teams is a good thing, as MF is desinged for group/world events in the first place, not challenging dungeons, that require everyone to have a role in the fights, not people that are only good after the rest of the team have struggled through a fight.

Bah, everyone’s argument against it doesn’t make any sense. How would having the wrong gear at lvl 80 make you any less capable of doing a dungeon that’s designed for a lower lvl, the stats you have on even the worst gear at 80 are still better than the stats on anything between lvl 35 and 70. And to say an inspect button is impossible because it would cause elitism is bull****, elitism is caused by people’s attitudes to gaming, not by the features in a game. There is already so much elitism it’s beyond belief. You can already tell what gear is exotic or not by the look of it. Every tier has unique looking armor sets. And you can generally guess what stats they are using if they use dungeon gear, as each dungeon only has three stat variations. If you played on the right server you would find people, that regardless of build or gear, just want to play the game and help others.

Pretty much every MMO has the button I’m talking about and it’s the easiest thing the GW2 team can implement, as every piece of armor already has a preview code, it would just be a case of generating codes for the accessories and different stat combinations.

I’m not talking about using outside sources to find what the armor is. That website would work, yes, but what I’m talking about is a simple piece of code that allows players to directly see everything a player has equipped, with just the press of a button.

What Guild Wars 2 needs is a button, in the menu when you right-click a player’s portrait, that lets you preview all of a player’s gear on yourself. This would allow people to see what set of armor someone is wearing, but also, what accessories and amulets/rings they are using. Although some people would argue that this takes away a layer of communication between players, where people ask what each other are using, I have found that a lot of the time players either ignore people that ask them what their gear is, or they say that they don’t want to show them what it is.