Guild Wars 2

You don’t know me bud.

But like many others here, I’ve tried to enjoy the class and I have learned it. I mean gratz on killing mobs using 20 abilities per fight that do less damage than what every other class can do by pressing 2 buttons and getting satisfaction from it. The fact is, and you even said it yourself, the class is broken.

Even the most skilled players do not make the Ele work when in comparison to other classes. Yes the Ele takes the most skill to play due to the spell system, there is never an argument there. Fact is though, you are rewarded the least amount by doing so. Which is the problem.

And yes, people who have learned the class are saying this. Go play a different class, such as a warrior or thief just to name a couple. Then come back here and call us all whiners.

Awwww, Strang looks offended. Poor guy

As sad and pathetic this all is, it is so very true.

Even more so, the class would be buffed in a week

Lol, broken Ele in action. This should be used as an ad campaign to fix Eles

Love Ele all you want, but you will not be as good as any other class in the game.

There is easy mode, there is hard mode. And then there is Ele’s, the cloth wearing ranged class who does the least amount of ranged damage with the least amount of survivability.

There is just nothing fun about that. It’s quite pathetic that such a busted class even exists.

“dodge” is such a terrible answer.

People always answer with “dodge” as if it’s the end-all solution to every problem.

Your answer as an Ele is simply this….. You die

People talk PvP as if it’s scripted or something. The fact is, you die. Eles have less HP, less defense, less damage, etc etc etc than any other class in the game. And every other class in the game also has ranged abilities and gap closers.

Slow them? Ok, they slow you too fyi. Stun them? Ok, they stun you too fyi. Dodge them? Ok, they dodge you too fyi and did i mention that all of your CC is cast and skillshot based unlike theirs?

As an Ele, sure you can use a staff. You can F4 4 place 4 cast 4, 3, F3 3 5 place 5 cast 5, 4, F2 place 4 cast 4, F1 quick turn so you are facing backwards 3. All to try to kite and survive while doing absolutly no damage to anything therefore making yourself worthless to your team. Yes, you can do that and you might live.

All he has to do is spam 2 buttons, and he will tell you it’s fair. Or, he will tell you “just dodge.”

How can people possibly defend this ability? Oh wait, they play thieves. Durp.

Find counters? Ok, so what you are saying is…. That I have to spec the right spec, roll the right class, use the right weapon, and use the right instacast skill at the exact right time all in order to defend against one ability and/or one class?

And I do love how the defenders always say “oh just do this, and then this, and then that” as if PvP is the ultimate perfect and structured environment. Humorous.

Anyway, when you have to revolve an entire game around one ability or one class, then that is the sole definition of overpowered.

Thieves are crazy OP. No melee class with that amount of burst should have such survivability and endless gap closers. Not to mention how super easy they are to play compared to every other class. They completely ruin the game.

And judging by the overpopulated amounts of thieves currently out there, I’d say most people are starting to use the “if you can’t beat em, join em” mentality.

Why love thief? The better question is, why not? Gap closers with insane damage, and just as much survivability as any other class.

In all honesty, there is really no reason to roll anything else the way things currently stand other than a 2h sword class.

Ele is a fast killer? Where did you hear that from?

Direct hits? From what exactly, auto-attacks? Almost every Ele skill that is worth it’s salt needs to be placed and casted by you. Manually. Hardly anything is direct at all unless you are dagger/dagger of course, which is just pointless to do as an Ele in the first place.

Yes yes here is the point where somebody will say “oh dagger/dagger rapes everything.” Ok so the damage isnt bad, its just that other classes do melee better than you, and have more survivability. So yes, it’s pointless to do so as an Ele.
If you want a fast killer, go thief or a class that can use a 2h sword like everybody else is. Ele does not even compare to that kind of damage.

If you are hell bend on Mes or Ele, then go Mes. As the game currently stands, Ele is the red headed stepchild of GW2

Lol what? Its very useless in WvW. The only thing those are good for, are killing idiots. Anyone with half a brain knows how to dodge.

“Oh what is that big red circle on the ground? Oh it’s raining fire? I think I should stand in it.”

Either way man, you should just reroll if you are having trouble with Ele. Every other class requires less skill, and higher rewards. Kinda lose lose for us. I still play it because its fun, sometimes. But overall Ele lacks in pretty much everything atm.

Reeddog.9132:

The only fact i can find in your post is that you need to consult a dictionary on the definition of the word FACT. And go ahead and try not to gloss over the idea that people are indeed saying…

" they want easy mode, they want ubar epicz in a 10 minute dungeon. "

Some may be being obtuse about it, but if you wanna go ahead and read in between the lines i think most will agree that this is exactly what many people are saying. Whether or not you cop that that is up to you.

That’s fine, you are entitled to your opinion as well. But the average gamer is not going to spend that kind of time and silver just to be one shot by trash and receive no reward for it in any MMOG. And that my friend, is a straight up fact. I can list the many failed MMOG’s due to that simple concept, but I’m sure we all know what they are already. Granted most of those games were subscription based whereas this is not, but the concept remains.

Then again, people said that FFXIV was fine too /shrug

Just reroll, Ele is broken as hell. Fun? Yeah sometimes, but the absolute fact is that you have to constantly stance dance in order to be effective in any way. Fun? Ok, if that’s your thing. Because other classes do not need to dance at all and they will still outdamage you.

As ele, you need the perfect environment in PvP in order to be effective. And everyone knows that PvP is anything but the perfect evironment.

Ok fanbois, you are totally missing everything. 100% whooooosh over your head.

Nobody is saying that they want to tear through dungeons, nobody is saying that they want easy mode, nobody is saying they want ubar epicz in a 10 minute dungeon.

The fact is, dungeons are terrible. GW2 is a lot more PvE base than what it should be in the first place. So to throw in dungeons where all you do is kite and CC non stop or you get one shot and wipe, is not fun in any way.

Another fact. People are not going to spend 2-3 hours in a place that gives you trash. There is no reward at all for going in there, so don’t bother wasting your time.

I am willing to guess that 90% of the people here who are actually defending this PvE garbage have never actually set foot in there. They are just like “oh this isnt WoW, L2P, use skillz, etc.” In no game out there does every trash mob one shot a tank, and there is a reason for that. Challenge the player yes, but make instances where all you do is kite and CC? Sorry, no thanks. It’s not skill, it’s not challenging, it’s straight up boring.

TL;DR Bottom line is, PvE is not FUN at all. And the rewards for taking the time to do it are non existent.