I don’t get…and probably never will get, what it is that drives ppl like the OP and other users to this game.
There’s apparently very little they enjoy and what they do enjoy isn’t good enough so they want it to be what they imagine it should be.
I get some of the things some ppl wish, I don’t share those opinions…but I get them, yet being so many other games that offer them, why should a game that other ppl enjoy for what it is change everything so a minority is happy with it and stays? Which in the end will turn it into X generic MMO out in the market…it only shows that some are alergic to any sort of change in their routine.
Yes, gear progression might not be the huge transformation from Guild Wars 2 to X generic MMO…but in combination with it and stuff like mounts, 25man raids, factions and other stuff which has been mentioned several times in other threads will transform the game into something most ppl in GW2 do not want…something we did not look forward to when buying the game.
tl;dr: The game was advertised a certain way, ppl bought for it and love/hate it for it…if u don’t like the game the way it is, there’s no shame in finding something u like…but don’t go ahead trying to “ruin” it for others.
I can speak only for me but what do you do if you are happy with 80% of the game and unhappy with the remaining 20%?
You try to give feedback. Bad idea in this game, you are swarmed by fanboys and… well I ranted about that in my original post. The level of fanboyism in this community is extreme, it’s destroying every form of constructive feedback.
The game has very dedicated devs behind it, it has wonderful graphics and introduces some nice concepts to the MMORPG genre. But it lacks progression in any form and if you give feedback why it’s boring you are bitten by rabid fanboys.
Well, that’s because I created this thread…
Very well, I understand what u mean, and it’s completely valid to give your feedback to try and improve the game, but u have to accept that what u consider an improvement will clash with what others consider an unwelcome change.
Yes, I can accept that. What I can’t accept is told to leave or go back to WoW everytime someone criticises “their” game. Funny, first they tell you to leave, a few months later they whine about empty servers…
I don’t get…and probably never will get, what it is that drives ppl like the OP and other users to this game.
There’s apparently very little they enjoy and what they do enjoy isn’t good enough so they want it to be what they imagine it should be.
I get some of the things some ppl wish, I don’t share those opinions…but I get them, yet being so many other games that offer them, why should a game that other ppl enjoy for what it is change everything so a minority is happy with it and stays? Which in the end will turn it into X generic MMO out in the market…it only shows that some are alergic to any sort of change in their routine.
Yes, gear progression might not be the huge transformation from Guild Wars 2 to X generic MMO…but in combination with it and stuff like mounts, 25man raids, factions and other stuff which has been mentioned several times in other threads will transform the game into something most ppl in GW2 do not want…something we did not look forward to when buying the game.
tl;dr: The game was advertised a certain way, ppl bought for it and love/hate it for it…if u don’t like the game the way it is, there’s no shame in finding something u like…but don’t go ahead trying to “ruin” it for others.
I can speak only for me but what do you do if you are happy with 80% of the game and unhappy with the remaining 20%?
You try to give feedback. Bad idea in this game, you are swarmed by fanboys and… well I ranted about that in my original post. The level of fanboyism in this community is extreme, it’s destroying every form of constructive feedback.
The game has very dedicated devs behind it, it has wonderful graphics and introduces some nice concepts to the MMORPG genre. But it lacks progression in any form and if you give feedback why it’s boring you are bitten by rabid fanboys.
Wait, so you’re saying that I have to progress my gear to complete these dungeons?
And the reward for completing enough of these dungeons is….wait for it…gear?
Cosmetic gear. Prestige. It’s not gear that’s necessary to run some other dungeon so you can get gear that’s necessary to run some other dungeon.
How are you not understanding the difference? It’s a really simple concept.
Nevermind, Dusk. I’m done chatting with you.
Go on white knighting the game.
In my initial post I was not sure if the word “fanatic” was justified. After reading Dusks posts, well, let’s say I don’t regret it
So… if an item has +5 better stats (so called progression) “grinding for hundreds of hours”
suddenly is fun Cephei? Well in my opinion it is not and your lot should go and see a doctor for your severe gaming addiction. And I don´t say that to insult you.
Well, you twist my words and you have to be some sort of genius because you can diagnose gaming addiction over the internet…
Better doesn’t have to mean a stat increase. It could still be aesthetics.
And that I see no problem with; hell, that’s already in the game.
It’s these people coming into this forum saying that the game should have “progression gearing” post-80 to get to certain content so you can do even more “progression gearing” to access certain content that just aren’t getting it. ANet said it wouldn’t be in the game. Those of us who were following what ANet was saying and looking forward to this game for the many reasons, one of which being that there’s no pointless carrot-chasing to get to otherwise accessible content after max level, would rather see than unchanged simply because a bunch of people decided not to read anything about this game and then bought it thinking that certain stuff would be in it.
If they want that, they can go get that somewhere else; we bought the game because we think that progression raiding crap is hardcore boring.
I hope for you that “we” is enough to sustain this game after most people got to 80 and wonder what they should do because they don’t like to grind hundreds of hours for item skins or do jumping puzzles for the lulz or dps-race pointless dynamic events.
Besides, in my original post i never wrote I´m pro raiding. In fact I didn’t raid in any game I’ve played (and I played a lot over the years). But I think every MMO need a form of item or character progression (progression does not necessarily mean raiding) and this game has none…
GW2 has the most fanatic item and progression hater I’ve ever seen in any MMORPG.
Someone dare to criticise the lack of rewards for certain activities in GW2, seconds later one of these fanatics chime in and instruct you how you play GW2 the right way – just for the fun.
It´s not that I partly understand this people, they don’t want the next raid item progression grinder but come on, this is getting aggravating.
Of course you should play a game because it’s fun for you but nearly everyone loves to get better items, it’s natural for humans and part of the fun, we like to get rewarded for what we do, even it’s a game.
I don’t need you to lecture me how I have to enjoy this game or how I´m wrong if I expect some reward I can use for whatever I do in this game.
In fact I’d love to go back playing a healer in a holy trinity game.
I like clearly defined roles and a stats-centric gameplay mechanic.
Oh and I LOATHE dodging red circles on the ground, it’s not funny or has anything to do with skill.
That said, GW2 is not a bad game. Quite the contrary, it’s a very good game if you like the “MMORPG light” approach from A-Net. I hope they stay true to their vision because they will feel the pressure from players that like a more traditional gameplay.
I am gone the moment a MMORPG is released that is NOT a WoW clone and brings back the feeling I had while playing EQ or DAOC. Because it is unlikely that such a game is released during my lifetime I´m playing GW2 for the forseeable future and try to enjoy it as good as I can…
