Guild Wars 2

hats off to Prosecute and SE i’ve always running wvw with u guys even without pros tag up (Zanede/Kazenui)
gonna miss ur accent when u flirt blossom at TS pros

i know what u’ve been thru, but ima bit disagree with achievement point matters tho
i got 11k AP but we got daily wvw schedule at INTH even our numbers not as high as SE/Abyss we still care about our server wvw, i used to had hope we all rank up to tier 2 or 3 but now gone

i have one.. im currently using slingshot so the shovel locked at the screenshot, already doin that and managed to get killed luckily the rabbit caught inside too, yesterday the rabbit spawned outside my stuck box so he can’t hit me
ty tho…

,still we need suicide button if we managed to get stuck and act like falling in midair endlessly (by that u cannot use any items)

if u can’t fix this.. at least give us suicide button.. it happens to me yesterday too in the gong stick..

first of all
Ty for all the entries but its not like i never played all a single build y’all post especially yLOON geezz u’re talking like i’ve never done what u did.. please if u want to troll or being a scumbag feeling superior? not in this thread ,
what im looking to discuss here is not sharing a build neither i ever ask for
“could u share ur build plzzzz? ima noob! i died many times!” (but also i didn’t reject any build link u want to post as long as it match the subject-Radiance) did u even read this phrase?
there is no way we can fight 1vsX with a radiance + zerk set with a guard
or simply bursting down 1 people in very flash moment with ability to recover for next fight
or there is a way to do so? why did u even bother to post no radiance build
with ur build zerk set will only net 40-45% crit chance since guardian is lack of fury 40% is so little i’d better be full knight rather than wasting crit dmg for 40% chance
tell u what im not a huge fan of being punching bag but its just guardian best at currently there’s no chance u can win any bunker guard build with yloon build unless the bunker was noob

man.. i think i don’t need to tell everything bcs i’ll feel sounded like arrogant
but u pushed me ur build used to be my old time build but its way too old school u can see for urself at gw2db.com 2nd highest rate guardian http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/guardian there’s even people telling this build is bad, it used to be “stand ur ground” but i’ve changed it to contemplation purity, i’ve never update it again since january

i know every single build u all post and tried build ive been here playing guardian in this game since 3 days before headstarts (just not the spirit weapons)

ive been thru many instant kill dps guard but yet not as i play thief
yLoon said “recover and kill is impossible 2 terms” u got it wrong , maybe cus u never play other classes.

i cud burst down any bunker guard or heavy bunker condi necro or mesmer
with my thief while i can recover from lot conditions easily refresh to full health and start to backstab again or S/Ding without out of combat

thats not happening on guardian dps if u can stand 1vs3 bunker 80 i swear ill give u all my gold if u can do with yloon build i bet even maybe u can’t stand a single bunker condi spirit ranger

full knight set with soldier rune + absolute resolution + 100% reta&vigor up time will kill liandri herself just focus on picking up the crystals, just stand there like a boss give ur body to her if she slash her whip to u while ur reta up, i almost do nothing instead spaming VoJ and staff auto attack she’ll die eventually by reta.. i do 4+3 GS combo tho, i didnt leap to her just to reach next crystal or make a distance away from her while keeping reta up

got 8 crystals “light up the darkness” directly along on my first kill, after learning her pattern few times its quite easy to remember

yLoon.5289:

Guardian is the King of AOE DPS. The way of Guardian is to be unstoppable, to never retreat in a fight, forever pursue your opponent even if you are healing (Shelter) or Renewed Focus. If ya wanna retreat like your Warrior and Thief, sorry, this class is not for you.

My Burst Build
20/0/30/20/0

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJARSlUgKDHHyKEf4ERli4dPMFYMjXPgYEbIA-ToAg0CnIKSVkrITRyisFNAZxB

Start off your fight with Hammer first. Best if vs classes with pets, non stop do your AOE Reta. Once their HP is at 70%, do this combo.

Combo:
Hammer(5) + Judge Intervention, now that if they are trap in the Ring of Ward, (tap Stand Your Ground to avoid interrupted) instantly Swap GS(4)(2)(5), Purge Condition for extra damage IF you got condition. Auto-attack and non-stop chasing. Pull them back when they are about to heal(i got a habit of pulling them too soon and burst my Purge Condition cause it looks so cool xD), in most cases if this pull off perfectly, thief and mesmer will die.

This combo can also be performed when you are being chased, the chaser will 100% got knocked down from the ward. I owned a Mesmer 80% hp when im at 10% hp with this troll method.

Do this in group fight and see others drops like flies.

P.S Be very aggressive, the Guardian way is not to retreat =)

yes i clearly know about that, i didn’t say guardian must have a way to retreat i’m just asking about how a DPS guardian recovery for next fight
and ur build once again is not a dps focused (no radiance line lack precision) and like i said in the descriptions we can’t live longer without honorline
didn’t meant to break it, but its kinda waste to take monk focus if ure only bring 1 meditation
i better pick smite condi rather than purging flames

my thief wasn’t running but invis around them with shadowrejuv and im just giving an example how other class do recovery

and i do like yours with my guardian while in bunker-trait, my MAIN heal is attacking
with mace autoattack+omnomberry pies+sigil blood

Tarsius.3170:

Clarzk.7312:

Sorem.9157:

And yeah i believe they do get blinded

eh? i never knew spirit weapons blinds
is it traited? i only knew there was only burn

I think he means that since they were made vulnerable to attack, they are also vulnerable to conditions. In otherwords the reliable CC you used to get from hammer can now miss entirely because the spirit weapon gets blinded.

ahh… sry i misread it.. i thought when he said “they” meant to = spirit weapons

“The damage they dealt to it wasn’t a big deal, but the blinds were”

i do know spirit weapon r vulnerable now, thank you for clarifying

Reymis.2158:

I used to run a burst spec with spirit hammer/gs. Those were the days, I could 1vX people with consistency. 1v1 it was a train wreck if the other player didn’t see it coming though (probably partially why it got nerfed). They could take the damage increase away and make them not attack-able again! I ran gs and sc/torch and people didn’t know what hit them. Ever since that change though I have yet to find a really fun burst build =/ always looking though.

haven’t tried partially spirit weapon builds bcs personally i cant live to give away either judges, Smite, or SYS when runnin meditation burts ,they give quite dps
also i used to think it takes time to cast out spirit weapon our enemy might ran away already before the hammer hit him.
Its surely a train wreck if u precast it tho..

well after u say so im having second thought
i might give it a try.. if this suits me.. also want to find out how to cover up the change that been made to spirit weps

Sorem.9157:

The tip that i could give you is pop your Sword #2 instead of JI at the beggining. Cuts the animation but saves you a heal and it has low cd so it should be back up soon and you can save JI for bigger leaps. Timing your JI with weapon swap can be powerful for chasing too.

And yeah i believe they do get blinded

eh? i never knew spirit weapons blinds
is it traited? i only knew there was only burn

Opc.4718:

I’ve seen guardians that could either hit very hard, or else tank very well, but trying to do both means you’re only mediocre at both. I haven’t found a good balance between the two, and I’m interested to see what other people can come up with.

it is! if u’re at the one which hit very hard u can’t survive a long battle, unlike thieves and wars i’ve described above

Charak.9761:

you’re forgetting the most efficient build

0/15/30/20/5

its not dps focused, and its just like what i’ve said we cant survive without honorline
and this build still cant burst people in a single combo cus lack of precision with only 15 radi line

Sorem.9157:

1.5k hours of Guardian here with close to 1.5k pvp games aswell. Most of those were trying to find a real viable burst build on the Guardian. I have made a couple good ones, one for pvp and one for wvw. The one that i build for tPvP got severely nerfed when Arenanet made spirit weapons hitteable, since it relied heavily on spirit hammer. The damage they dealt to it wasn’t a big deal, but the blinds were. As for WvW, it’s a bit more complicated. I’m not sure how it is on lower tiers, but on JQ people seem to be adapting to more tanky specs with PVT gear.

What i used to do was Sigil of Rage. I figured since i don’t have any ways to CC my target unless i give up sword, which i refuse to, I should try to burst them asap. That used to work wonderfully, i have a few clips of it on a video on youtube, but saddly, quickness got nerfed. Then i moved to Hydromancy Sigils. Figured the problem wasn’t lack of damage at all, but that people could AVOID my damage. It worked until the new ’’PVT’’ meta started to kick in and then i started to have trouble killing people on outnumbered fights. Didn’t have much CC and they were tanky, so they would just get away.

The builds that i usually run are spec’d for 30 on valor. I don’t really go for AH though. I’m a big fan of meditations so i usually pick Monk’s Focus. Here’s my old build that i used to run with Quickness if you might think you wanna take a look at it and tweak to your like. There’s a video at the bottom of the post.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Furious-Knight-Built-WvW-Solo-Burst

And here’s the one that i have been testing lately

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlYg67GHSNEfIFRugqCxDnhGz41DI6wGC-jEzAYLBZCUgoCwJwioxWFLiGreBTdmUlbkVxA2cBZvRS9HYCBYeMA-w

Best of luck

i like ur build ive been using similar to that before the different is only at honor i switch 5 points to virtues so i got unscathed contender/vengeful.. but back again it is the problem if im running this build just like what u’ve said in ur thread i have a big problem with healing build especially bunker.condi necros/engi/ranger
and 1vsX a not pro skilled players but at least know how to play
because we can be bursted down after our meditation on cd after taking damage from the 1st enemy and we have no other survivabillity for 2nd fight

yes lower tier like darkhaven is not much different we’re focus on bunker spec too
like i do as shown in my daily build above
thats why i really-really curious why we guardian can’t , while i use my zerk thief/warr i can take down a bunker specd player

now u’re talking does spirit weapon blind?

Kamui.5726:

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQRAse7dlUgSDHHSIEm4Eh1DAeQ/VVAfXPgYEbIA-jEyA4uioRTdCNVYIaJvioxW1KiGraBTdSEV7PKiWtUARMGA-w

here is something that might help ya,,, been using this build for about 9 months now. have had a lot of success with it. This is with exotics and consumables up mind you. I never wvw without them ^^.

pros:
3300 power
66% crit with trait
3150 armor
lots of crit damage
Meditations heal and are instant (meaning they can be used while using other skills)
With Flashing Blade, Judge Inter, Bane and Chains,, we can stay on top of enemy
Scepter skills hit quite hard so we don’t always need to be in melee

cons:
low hp – 11400
No condition removal except Smite Condition

small rotation i use to burst is: chains of light, smite, flashing blade, zealot’s defense
works well on moderate health and lower classes.
feel free to tweak and make your own.

yes as shown at my story above ive already running this build and having tough time with swiftness and mobility if our burst fail to make them downed and ur JI is at cd
+having difficult to make bunker classes down like u’ve said too
but i have no problem running glass cannon like this with thief or war
im so curious did i miss the point of recoveries that guardians do like invis of thief or mobility of war

thanks for reply tho

With 2200 hours playing Guardian of 3500 my total gameplay

somehow i never met the right build for me yes i know it called “Guardian”
but my viewpoint is a guardian that guarding my friends by killing enemies fast
but sometimes i like to be tanky that’s why i play guard

did i miss the point that anet was saying?
“Everyone, Everyclass can be Everything they want” something like that

please skip this thread, do not reply or read this discussion if u’re just goin to say
“go warrior”

I want to discuss about how we’re not given a viable traits to burst down an enemy while having a survivability to maintain 1vsX next fight, especially in wvw spec not pvp

i dont want to talk about boring AH build with zerk gears its way too mainstream
and it even can’t burst down 1 enemy like thieves or warriors do their combo

the disappointing moment is when i ran my thief with full zerk i can 1vs 4xlv80 enemies , yes my thief can invis while i wait my utility CD

and i ran my warrior i can burst enemy then run around using 3&5gs while recoveries and back again for another fight

when i play a guardian i’ve tried many build and master it yes i can 1vs 4xlv80 in wvw but its never far from 30 honor or 30 virtues with knight or cleric gears, like other tourney build especially boring AH build

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i’ve been using triple meditation build + RHS 10/30/30/0/0 somehow loses critchance while not having SYS’s fury. and lack of mobility cus no swiftness at all..

also u cannot burst someone simply using auto attack of sword, i found that i “nearly” burst down people effectively by JI(judge’s intervent) + whirling wrath of GS (i like GS better even i traited 30 radi) and if he doesnt die they ran away and this build is no way of chasing people with 32s JI or 12s leap or skill 2 sword is impossible , well to make things worse this case if u’re luckily not being bursted down by 2nd opponent and if ure alive what r u gonna do to recoveries and fight the 2nd battle? can u invis like a thieves? or high mobility like a wars?

with no honor line +full zerk i feel like 12-13k HP is totally same as paper as thief but thief has invis + shadow rejuv

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and then i retraited to 0/30/30/10/0 for double meditation + SYS and made me horribly died by conditions and again still can be easily bursted by 1 backstab thief

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a huge different while i use my daily build wvw build 0/0/20/30/20 (why 20 valor? bcs i use shield cd trait and simply AH is mainstream and i hate mainstream + i figures absolte resolution is way more usefull vs condi and heals more than AH+EM while we’re out of attack range)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR5elUgiDnFyvDf4ESmiVCBxegRZUHdpAikIA-jUyAYLAMWkJMw0nAlALiGbltIas6aMlrQkGO1CBUeBA-w

yes i’m nearly immortal with this build but more and more day i felt like boxing bag

i manage to survive 2 backstab thieves or 2 warrior burst/condi but they simply ran away if they figures they cant kill me, im not talking about weekend warriors who kept attacking me while my reta 100% up

TLDR :
there is no way we can fight 1vsX with a radiance + zerk set with a guard
or simply bursting down 1 people in very flash moment with ability to recover for next fight
or there is a way to do so?

Thanks a lot, i expect a great discussion in this thread and i really appreciate who is reading from top to bottom

sorry for the grammar my main language isn’t english

+1
ive got little additional solution
if anet hv a prob with making it suitable with all races
maybe anet can make the cloaks devide by racial
(ex: due to charr is a hunchback it kinda unsuitable if they wear long cloak it’ll be curved and of course the anet will hv problem to redesign it again)

Arryn.3951:

Some of the back slot items read “this item goes under armor …” such as the one you posted above. I don’t believe those have any graphic display. There are others (engi backpack, for example) that do.

Ones like the above are just a stat boost with an upgrade slot.

yeah i forgot to say these below
“i think its a bug because engi backpack do have an appearance but this item doesn’t
including other 2(other 2 selection when we got this reward)”
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btw seriously? is that so? i just don’t get it what does “this goes under armor” exactly mean? (first time i think it means to explain that “this item just like other armor which is have an appearance”

it seems the item equipped at back(cape/bag) slot accessory is not displayed
or maybe it doesn’t have from the beginning CMIIW

For Ex: [Strong Back Brace] reward from personal story

but i think it supposed to have an appearance..
because they give option like “SHOW/HIDE”
also i think its a bug because engi backpack do have an appearance but this item doesn’t including other 2(other 2 selection when we got this reward)

please give a check, maybe this is a bug
because its an important element for a character looks

thanks before