Guild Wars 2

the wonders of having a schedule and pre-planning

Thanks everyone for coming and keeping it short.
Here are the results of this meeting.
Full video can be found here

Discussed topics:

• Going over the old rules
• Third party software
• Unrestricted rule set timer changes
• Reconsidering event consumables in restricted
• AoE manipulations
• Solo leader boards & rule changes
• Wall exploit on Lupicus
• Fractal leader boards & rule changes
• Trait swapping to reset cd
• Mini-pets in dungeons
• Considering 1 admin per guild for the new website (later decided to keep it as it is * now by Wethopsu)
• Clearing entire leader board for a fresh start

Major changes:

Updates rules up on http://gw2dungeons.net/Rules

If you spot any mistakes please let Wethospu.6437 know.

Changes:

- Added solo rule set. Same as restricted but non-gem consumables are allowed and some encounter specific rules.

- Resurrected unrestricted rule set. Same timer rules as on restricted but everything except 3rd party tools are allowed.

- AoE manipulating is disallowed on restricted runs.

- 3rd party tools like DPS meters and health info are disallowed on all runs.

- Minipets are allowed on all runs.

- Added section for encounter specific rules to clarify some of the rules. This will get expanded whenever a question arises.

Wethospu.6437:

If there is time, I think record ownership could also be discussed. Basically do records belong to the guild or the players (what happens when a player switches guild). I’m pretty sure solo players would like to records move with them but 5-man records are probably a different thing.

However, I don’t see this as a big priority (so many topics already) as this can always be decided later when the issue actually happens.

it already happened quite a few times actually xD
most recent one about LuPI to qT

small update, date and more topics of discussion.

Thyend.3692:

I assume this meeting is going to happen in a teamspeak(or mumble,skype..etc) room, will there be a way for outsiders to listen in while not actively taking part, like a stream or something?

Sounds like a good idea to me, but its not just up to me to decide that.. we might, but cant promise it yet.

Purple Miku.7032:

If the meeting begins to take an excessive amount of time then it could always be broken into two halves so the first meeting could cover the first two of the four topics and the second meeting could cover the second two.

I think 3 representatives is a hell of a lot better than just 1 from each guild because the more people then the more accurate the popular opinions will reflect what the community wants.

We’ll keep it on track with the agenda, when people start to ramble off topic we’ll bring it back to topic and move on to the next.
We can always ramble after the meeting is done.

spoj.9672:

Id say a maximum of 2 if you really think its an issue. Its a discussion for the community. No matter how well structured a guild is it might be difficult to represent the entire guild with just one person. Plus the hosts are both from iV so for fairness sake you should allow 2 per guild.

We’re doing 3 people per guild, there’s people who want to make “big” changes, therefor we think its best to have 3 people per guild not just 1 or 2.
We’ve always had 3 people per guild on the previous meetings, why would we change that especially since some people want to make big changes.

Hi everyone,

As many of you already know the gwscr.com website is no longer updated, and the records have moved to DnT forums which again has moved to another website since then.
The new website for record leaderboards is gw2dungeons.net
The records part is still a work in progress, but can be found here
Wethopsu is the head admin of this website.

Due to the record leaderboards being moved to another website, we want to update every rule and possibly include a new solo & fractal leaderboard.
As for resetting every record, that’ll depend on how big the changes in rules will be, for example a different timer start/end point.

So on that note, Wethopsu has requested Menno and me to host another meeting since we hosted the previous two as well.
Every active speedrun guild of the past year (who hasn’t disbanded yet) will be invited and allowed to bring 3 representatives.
Currently invited guilds are:

Intricacy [iV] (hosts)
Death and Taxes [DnT]
Snow Crows [SC]
Legion Of Doom [LoD]
First Grade [ONE]
Immortal Kingdom [KING]
Retalliate [rT]
Quantify [qT]
Almost Sophisticated [geek]
Kreios [KRS]
Oh My Gosh Virtual Squirrels [Vs]
Dark Renegatus [REN]

If your guild is not invited and wish to get an invite, contact Menno or me in game.
Recent activity in Speed Clears required.
Menno.6092
Debbysaurus.4016

We will have an agenda to keep the meeting organised and prevent running off topic like the previous times.
The current agenda is as followed:
(the order of points to be discussed might change)

• Going over the current rules first to see if they still apply
• Third party software
• Solo / Fractal leaderboards
• (Un)restricted rule set timer changes
• Reconsidering Consumables in restricted
• Reconsidering AoE manipulation, e.g Meteor Shower & Ice bow 4
• Considering 1 admin per guild for the new website

We ask everyone who would like to add more topics to reply on this thread with your idea’s and/or points of discussion so I can update the agenda to keep everyone up to date of what the meeting will be about.
If you prefer to stay anonymous, you can always pm it to Menno or me instead.

We also ask for each guild to discuss each topic with their own members before the meeting begins so we can keep the meeting short and on topic.
Since one of the points is mainly aimed at soloing, we ask each guild leader to talk with their solo players to make sure they get a say in how the rules regarding soloing will be.
If we can not get to a decision about solo play there might be a solo specific meeting hosted by solo players themselves, this is not certain yet.

Due to incoming balance changed and people’s schedules we have to postpone the meeting by 1 week.
The new date will be Sat 31st January at 7pm GMT / 2pm EST

The meeting will be recorded, not streamed.
Multiple guilds have been asked and agreed to having this recorded for future reference / involvement of other people.
Reason to not stream is to exclude outsider’s influence, this is not open for discussion.

@hybrid.5027
We use rangers lol.
2 even in some paths xD

Ele 1 : Debby Saurus – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T9eYWRSZkQ
Ele 2 : Aleth Conjures – ( PoV added later)
Warr : Amicable Pugs.4503 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-6G39-HWBQ
Guard : Casual Sarah
Thief : Avangion Helcar

Interested in our guild? Have a look at our website
http://intricacy-iv.enjin.com/home

Malchior.5042:

I see it down there, even the bunny ears!

#win

what about khaki shorts and hoodies?

That’s actually the armors I want to keep for combat lol
who needs heavy armor if you can run around in summer clothes.

“Some basic clothing items that are no longer available for purchase will be converted into endless tonics. "

Clothes? Tonics?
What is the relation between these ?

I’m assuming some town clothes are being deleted, and tonics will be released to “transform” into wearing those clothes.
Any clarification available or perhaps some examples of what town clothes will be replaced?

can we jsut stop with achievements that rely on random players in a NON instanced zone?
majority fails to organize properly to get them done.

Elementalist PoV
Mesmer PoV
Warrior PoV

Runners:
Mesmer: Quaggan pony
War: Sesshi
Thief: Tmoo
Guard: Casual Sarah
Ele: Debby Saurus

no it still has not been fixed

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Apparently there was a meeting between the euros while I was asleep, did anything come of it?

There hasn’t been one.
I’ve contacted some guilds who regularry compete in speedruns to schedule a meeting.
most likely next week-ish

Attending guilds so far are:

• Death And Taxes [DnT]
• Lupi Stole My Bike [LuPi]
• Stop Stealing [agro]
• Legion of Doom [LOD]
• Coldsnap [IX]
• Retaliate [rT]
• Penetration Style [DpS] (reforming)
• Keep Running [Kr]
• Define [HC]
• First Grade [ONE]

I was hoping i could contact you in game soon as well for further information and questions.

still happens countless times daily and nothing is being done about it ….

guess i’ll do them all over again… gf 16 hrs wasted …

Astralporing.1957:

Piscore.6934:

Debbysaurus.4016:

Lv 37 instability gives enemys a random boon if un attended.
Mai Trin goes into cannon barrage every 25% of her life.
During barrage she gets boons.. includingregeneration, thus getting above 75% again, as soon she teleports back down she instantly goes back into the barrage state.
Endless cycle………
We had to restart entire level again.. hoping we dont get Mai Trin this time >.>

Can this get fixed please?

I see ppl in lvl 39 fractal…

That only means they didn’t get Mai Trin on 37.
…now i wonder how that instability works on Maw.

we’re n lv 40 ourselves now, still the bug remains on 37 if u get Mai ur screwwed.

Patch notes didnt mention u had to log to ur main lvl first for it to trigger so it’s not my fault.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/fractured/Fractal-lv-37-Mai-Trin-boss-impossible/first#post3270514

Blackwolfe.5649:

I think it’s pretty clear. The system had not updated your main, since you had not logged it on. When you ran with your alt, the system only knew about your alts current personal level (after the update), which went up to 15. When you logged on your main, the system updated your previous level 49 to the reset level 30. It’s not a bug, but it might be an oversight on their part.

i’m well aware of that, my question is, can i request +9 lvls or not…

My old lfractal evel was 49.
My alt 6.

i havn’t logged on my main char to update lv 30 acc wide (forgot to)
so i started at lv 6, but we went allt he way to lv 39 now, making my personal lvl 15.
I’ve logged to me main hopign it’d update… but its only 30 still…

sooo ,, is this a bug or just m own mistake? (most likely the 2nd one)
Can i get this fixed?

Dondarrion.2748:

Everyone should be reset to max level 30 at the start of this patch; so if it was 39 for some reason on your alt that must be some weird bug.

If it’s 30, and you’ve not done any new fractals to progress your levels yet, then it’s correct.

I said i did 9 runs to get to 39… even made a bug report from lv 37 under the living story section…

i SHOULD be on lv 39 but but it;s not …

My old lfractal evel was 49.
My alt 6.

i havn’t logged on my main char to update lv 30 acc wide (forgot to)
so i started at lv 6, but we went allt he way to lv 39 now, making my personal lvl 15.
I’ve logged to me main hopign it’d update… but its only 30 still…

sooo ,, is this a bug or just m own mistake? (most likely the 2nd one)
Can i get this fixed?

So… if you could disable regeneration buff on boss fights……
Yeah that’d be great.

J Night.3468:

the reactor bug was managable but the molten facility broke the game for my party. the more i hear about bugs and how stupid this update is.. the more i care less about getting on the game and running fractals again. even though i’ve been excited about it.

get this negativity out of my thread ò.ó

This is not a bug actually, just poor use of mehcanics that have been overlooked.

Lv 37 instability gives enemys a random boon if un attended.
Mai Trin goes into cannon barrage every 25% of her life.
During barrage she gets boons.. includingregeneration, thus getting above 75% again, as soon she teleports back down she instantly goes back into the barrage state.
Endless cycle………
We had to restart entire level again.. hoping we dont get Mai Trin this time >.>

Can this get fixed please?

give us a kittening update about it alreaddy -.-

dutchiez.7502:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Everyone is just going to have to get back to using gw2lfg. It’s safe from this kind of issue; plus, fewer numbers of people using Anet’s lfg is the only way to get Anet to act.

The only way to get Anet to act is to a) find an exploit which makes you a lot of money/gives you a big advantage over others or b) have the majority of the playerbase complain about it. Since neither of these is true for this case it will probably be a long time before this is fixed, if at all.

Only wayto get that to happen is if everyone merge bugs every party on lfg, force the people to complain about it….
Maybe then Anet will see the problem.

Currently only way to fix it is to ask everyone in pt to leave so ur LFG completely resets.
Then re-invite them.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/LFG-tool-Group-Merging/first#post3217462

8 days ago since Ben has been aware of this.
I’m sure he informed the other dev’s about it , yet no change what so ever..
Can you guys at least disable the “merge” button untill it works propherly?
More and more people are abusing this broken piece of crap, kicking innocent teams, just to troll people.

It took A-net 4 hours to disable a certain food to stop a unfair advantage in dragon arena, takes them weeks to disable a game breaking / ruinning “feature”.

@ Brother Grimm.5176
i transfer these ammounts all the time to friends back and forth, never had problems before…

As title says….
friend lent me 1000g couple of weeks ago, sent it back to him today.. and he just got perma banned for irl gold trading….

1: what the hell?
2: will i get banned now too ?

Well at least they finally see what the problem is, now the waiting game begins …
Anyway, thnx dub.

I’d like to know how this even got past the testing team…

still no word of it being adressed…..

When you are 4/5 party in LFG, other people can join and still merge with another party even though you are full with him joined.
This causes the team to merge with the other party, sometimes even the instance openercausing the entire party to get kicked out.

How has nobody posted about this yet? …
Fix it please…

A item for this has alreaddy been datamined, no chat codes found for it yet though

109627_0671
Double-click to randomly reassign a character’s appearance settings: height, body type, skin color, markings, face, and hair. Race, gender, and profession will remain the same. This item will be consumed when finished.

109628_0097
Random Makeover Potion[s]

109629_0520
Random Hair Tonic[s]

Altough this is a good way to solve the problem which is what we alreaddy do, you are missing the point.
We shouldn’t be needing to do this.

The current kick system of GW2 is completely broken.
Too many times 2 people join random groups or people trying to legally sell a path and kick the party leader out to disband the entire group.
It has been reported many times, nothing is done about it.

If exploits have been used to sell a path i can somewhat see why they’d kick you, but even then it’s still a idiotic move.

possible suggestions:

1: Block the kick option to party leader.
2: Not allowed to kick people unless they were in party before the instance has been openned.
3: Only party leader can kick (like Guild Wars1) possibly with voting system.

Feel free to post more suggestions.
I’ll add them to the list if i seegood ones.

then you really need to learn how to play ele.

i do agree with everything you say but it’s taking advantage of a un intended mechanic, thats what defines it as an exploit.

cause taking advantage of a non-intended mechanic makes it a exploit.

Define [HC] made some examples and clip’s together.
Watch this video first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCNZeW8BOM
then this1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFm7Le0GQt0

Watch the videos, give your thoughts.

bump.
Get on topic now pls, no1 gives adamm about dodging.

Stumbled upon a chat code that disconnects everyone on the map / server whenever i press enter.
tested it 3 times to see if it was really that code causing the crash.
i will not post the code or share it with anyone.
can i get a dev responce / contact to resolve this before more people find out?