Guild Wars 2

It’s not dead, you’ll just get more ele bunker action because this affects everything but bunkers really.

Since they nerfed eles the wrong way and pretty much screwed all other niche ele builds…it’s been the same for me since I use bunker ele anyway, it just has lower mobility and I would imagine people would now run earth armor to replace mist form. People are cheering for this nerf to eles but I’ll give it a few weeks before we get a flood of qq from bad players, I guarantee it.

Eles are only weak in spvp but are “ok” everywhere else.

Wheeping Song.6423:

so ive been playing ele since release. mostly doing sPvP.

anyways, last night i tested messmer with an ordinary Greatsword/1h sword pistol build.

its quite funny to see all these big numbers without even having to think. my jaw dropped the first 10 mins. of playing. its about double the damage and a ton more of survivability.

for guys who havent tried it, try it and youll be amazed.

besides, how is it that elementalist is the only profession that cannot decline beeing killed in downed mode? every other proff. has at least 1 skill to delay the finishing move. (and im not talking about the one which cant be used right after going down due to cd)

I have the same sentiments, staff mesmers essentially does what an staff ele does but immensely better. It has more survivability, auto attack induced condition damage which also buffs allies, and a short cd field effect that does what auto attacks do but taken up to the eleventh which is pretty much instant. Never mind the clones that can also do high damage and apply condition to people and that mesmers are nearly impossible to deal with 1vs1 if the “I Win Button” is off of cd.

WvW and arguably pve is the only thing elementalist are good for. Other then that my main will still be an elementalist no matter what.

Kyros.5682:

@Razerei I main a mesmer and I’ve only been playing Ele for like 2 weeks. I Have played the majority of the classes and know which of these are hardest to play for me etc… etc..
Play style plays a large role in the difficulty of a class. so to just Sum up Ele as being a much harder class to play i think you are extremely mistaken. In many ways I find Mesmer a harder class to play than ele when not running the Illusion does all your damage build. And same for warrior with a greatsword. You are a 1 trick pony and you have to ensure your trick lands. This is all opinions formulated from playing against some of the best players in the game. You can throw out the Spvp shet I base none of my experiences from that. And I take no credit for stomping a 90% win ratio against garbage pug teams in tourneys.

I’ve restrained myself from saying this until now
I find ele a extremely easy class to play, You spam skills and have a good amount of success without any specific rotation or order, you just dominate while spaming like you would button mash in teken

That perspective is against the average joe. You can mash buttons on an ele with a good build and destroy. With the signet heal the faster you mash the more healing you get, that to me = a win – win scenario.

@Boozer, What you say is very true in many ways. What you may fail to realize is that there is very little money in Spvp while there is a potential to make loads of money in competitive tourney play for Anet. So balancing the game towards a more competitive nature would benefit them more as a company and lets face it, money makes the world go round. Those with money could give a shet about human emotion.
Also the builds that require “High risk” end up with little reward in any pvp scenario. High risk for high reward builds dont work in PvP. People think better than AI. Stick to high risk high reward builds for PvE and try to find a more balanced consistant build that can do both damage and Defense. Otherwise your doing it wrong. And if your doing it for fun than by all means do it your way and have fun but dont QQ when your not winning.

As someone who recently played a mesmser for about a week, I can say without a doubt that mesmers are immensely easy to use and far more rewarding then eles. If you build Mesmers correctly you can pretty much inflict every condition on someone with just auto attacks with the staff build( and your clones can do this to). I mean come on if I have like less then 1k hp I just used the “I win button” and turn them into a harmless critter can proceed to curb stomp them into the ground. In my less then a week experience doing pugs( I haven’t formed a group of people to do tournaments yet), I held the attention of at least five people trying to kill me but since I’m using a condition/ clone based build, it’s hard to find the real me and if you have certain skills and traits you can cloak at least twice and easily sleep out of team fights.
Never mind the fact that gunner clone does a crap ton of damage with correct traits, never mind that staff mesmers auto attack inflict nearly every condition in the game and you can make clones inflict the same condition, never mind the fact that mesmers and by extension their clones are tanker then eles.

TL;DR

Mesmer are immensely easy to play compared to eles and a lot more rewarding. They can also inflect pretty much every condition eles can do but with auto attacks granted this is random but it can easily stack up if all of your clones are auto attacking with staff.

Edit oh right they can also reflect ranged attacks while healing and is a lot more tanky.