Guild Wars 2

There is already a revealed debuff…. dropping stealth on damage would break the class. Most of their abilities revolve around stealth.

It’s enough that they can be HIT in stealth. Even by AOE. They are typically pretty squishy so just keep blasting and you might kill them.

I’ve played with something very similar to that, and I almost feel pigeon holed into it. It’s a faux support build with gimped DPS. Also water/arcane heavy is what I run in PVP. Sadly it’s one of our best specs but it just gets old.

Is something like the Krakatoa build viable in this situation? heavy fire and heavy earth for both DD and conditions and toughness… balance our with crit/vitality gear?

Hello all,

I play S/D DPS for PvE and while I don’t run pure glass cannon, I am starting to feel squishy as I get into the 20s.

What specs do you guys that run Fractals often (20+) run for S/D? I’m not a fan of Arcana heavy builds in PvE. I would like 30 in fire and to use this as my main source of damage.

YojimboJones.6243:

This isn’t Call of Duty, you should at least have a fighting chance even if an opponent gets a jump on you. Regardless of how “glass” your build is.

This isn’t WoW either and we don’t need hour long arena matches. And no you shouldn’t last long if you get jumped by another glass cannon and you are a glass build as well. You’re trying to take both the cannon and glass part of out glass cannon.

What’s left? A homogenized system that can only attain mediocrity at best. People should be free to make their build as tanky or glass as they want and be rewarded/punished appropriately. Glass cannons just need to realize they are going to die very quickly, and maybe absurdly quickly to other glass cannons, and not complain about it.

I personally don’t think glass cannon is a viable PvP build. This design is more for PvE, but people like big numbers, so whatever. Occasionally a glass cannon will catch me off guard and blow me up… but if their burst fails… Let’s just say they die more than I do.

Bravo OP. You thought out you weaknesses… made necessary changes…. changed your build and playstyle… and have overcome.

That is exactly how it is suppose to work.

There will always be something that kills you/gives you a hard time. You can’t be the best at everything. People need to just keep striving to improve and not be afraid of trying a different spec. I definitely believe a lot of the QQ is out of refusal to think, fear of change, and lack of persistence.

@OP

Thieves are THE best glass cannon burst, as they should be because they are terrible at everything else. A full glass cannon thief, vs a full glass cannon mesmer (you, cloth), he is going to kill you extremely quickly. I’d say 4-5 hits on average. With some luck (crits and buffs), occasionally you will see it in 2 hits. The counter to glass cannon is not be glass cannon. You are sacrificing survivability for dps. That is your choice. So are they. If you have any clones up and they hit him when he comes out of stealth, he’s probably at half health already. You can down him from downed state at that point. Also, having tried a glass cannon thief, I can tell you it’s very hard to get a stomp because enemies will kill you before you can get it off (the downed guy or their teammates).

Additionally, there is no hard counter for stealth. Deal with it. In my opinion there shouldn’t be. Soft counter is aoe attacks and spamming 1. It doesn’t last long and they aren’t invulnerable while stealthed.

In summary… it shouldn’t be common, but it should be possible. Working as intended.