Guild Wars 2

Been pretty much just doing dailies for the past two weeks because of this issue. Not gonna lie I’m getting pretty fed-up. Leaving a game in an unplayable state for weeks at a time just seems like you don’t give a crap. I loved this game. It had regular fun updates with few problems. I’ve enjoyed maybe two updates since Christmas and with mega-server I’ve lost all interest in world bosses and WvW. Now I’m not able to PvP or do Fractals. I hate to say it but I’m just losing interest in playing.

Yeah it can be easily avoided, but if you get caught by it with a full zerker thief you’re going to go down. Which leads me back to saying that you shouldn’t be able down someone from pretty much full health with one attack. Just my opinion but it seems pretty unbalanced to me.

Admittedly they’re easy to kill, but the ability to down someone from full health in one attack is not balanced at all. I’m running a war with PVT 2/0/6/0/6 and if I’m in any 1v1 and I don’t notice a thief show up they down me almost instantly with they’re spin attack (I think it’s dagger/dagger but not sure). It seems the whole build is around that one attack. Sneak in to combat use that attack and then run away, repeat.

It’s getting to the point where there are 2/3 thieves in every sPvP match and a lot of the times there will be a couple of engis as well (I think the turret build needs to nerfed as well but it’s much more manageable/reasonable and isn’t nearly as overused). Whenever you see a large amount of people switching to a specific build all of a sudden it is a good indication that a change is probably in order.

Anyways I’m sure there have been lots of complaints about this, just wondering what the story is and if we can expect some changes soon.

Thanks

I’ve never had any problems with getting DC… it’s happened maybe 10 times to me up to the Mega Server update. Now at times I can’t even play. Since I started playing today (about half an hour ago) I’ve been DC 7 times. During that time I was trying my luck at the MF and everytime I got DC the MF would take my swords but not output anything. Just wondering if others are having the same problem since the update. I’ve asked around my guild but nobody is having frequent DCs since the update…. (A lot of lag spikes and ppl getting their accts hacked but no DCs). Also the lag has become pretty unbearable as well at times.
Thanks

Nevermind I found the disclaimer about the 3rd party apps.

This is interesting as well:

The best way for a player to check whether a specific third-party program could have any impact on another player or a PvP opponent is to ask:
“Does this program allow someone to play faster, better, longer, or more accurately than someone who doesn’t use it?”
“Does this program allow someone to ‘play’ when he/she is not at the computer?”
“Does this program allow the user to gain undeserved rewards?”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Policy-3rd-Party-Programs-Multi-Boxing-Macros/first#post1532762

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I must say I’m confused. If you didn’t want to listen to the advice from the forum-goers, why bother making the thread to ask for help/advice?

I originally posted because I couldn’t find anything relevant to the topic. I’m not looking for advice, I’m looking for fact/documentation. Everyone seem very certain that it’s one click per action but it says:

“Guild Wars 2 players are permitted to use macros as long as the macros are programmed with a 1 key for 1 function protocol.
1. This means that if you program a macro, it must require one keystroke per action. You may not program a single key to perform multiple functions.”

Which is unclear to me because A. They don’t define what an action is and B. they use action interchangeably with function throughout.

I’m not trying to be difficult but I’m not going to stop doing something I find very convenient just because somebody said so. I’m just looking for documentation to back up what you’re saying.

For instance:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

Support will not give you an official answer and say it is or is not OK to use. Support has stated this many times in the past, you use any third part app or macro at your own risk. All we can do is tell you what has happened in the past.

Where does it say that third-party macros are to be used at your own risk? Have ppl been banned in the past for exactly what I’m doing?

Thanks

So we have this (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct):

“20. You may not use any third-party program (such as a “bot”) in order to automate gameplay functions, including playing, chatting, interacting, or gathering gold or items within Guild Wars 2. You may not assist, relay, or store gold or items for other players who are using these processes.”

First off it’s not a gameplay function. It’s a keyboard/mouse function that I use regularly. Secondly, it’s not an automated function. I still have to be present with my hand on the mouse doing it. I still have to click the mouse and turn scroll lock on and off and hold the mouse in place. Therefore it doesn’t give me any unfair gameplay advantage (beyond the Alcohol Achievement which isn’t really a gameplay advantage). I can’t just push a single button and have multiple functions occur.

And we also have (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Policy-3rd-Party-Programs-Multi-Boxing-Macros/first#post1532762)

“As part of ArenaNet’s policy on third-party programs, we are often asked about multi-boxing and the use of macros. Here is our policy:
Macros
Guild Wars 2 players are permitted to use macros as long as the macros are programmed with a 1 key for 1 function protocol.
This means that if you program a macro, it must require one keystroke per action. You may not program a single key to perform multiple functions.
For example, if you Press A and it results in the casting of a single skill, you’re ok. If you Press A and it casts multiple spells, you’re not ok.
You cannot program a macro to perform the same or multiple actions on more than one account at a time.
You cannot program an “auto-clicker” macro that, for instance, opens chests while you play elsewhere.”

So it states
“Guild Wars 2 players are permitted to use macros as long as the macros are programmed with a 1 key for 1 function protocol.”
The left click’s only function is to left click. The scroll locks only function is to set repeats on keys. Hitting one key doesn’t allow me to do multiple functions. It does allow me to do the same action multiple times.
“You cannot program a macro to perform the same or multiple actions on more than one account at a time.”
So I’m still safe.
“You cannot program an “auto-clicker” macro that, for instance, opens chests while you play elsewhere.”
As previously stated I have to use the mouse and keyboard in the same manner it was intended therefore I can’t go play elsewhere while opening chests or consuming consumables. I’m still doing everything manually. So I’m still good.

And beyond all the technical crap the alcohol achievement is the only reason I can see anybody caring and it is a BS Ach anyway. I’m simply doing something that prevents stress on my finger and on the mouse.

Unless there is more “official” documentation/clarification I’m going to keep using it…

Thanks again

Also, I should mention that I haven’t gotten the Alcohol Achievement and don’t intend to.

Thx for the tip about using the wheel, that’s a great idea! I may switch to that to avoid the hassle.
Would you mind linking the ToS that you’re looking at please. I’m unable to find any mention of loops, scripts or macros.

I’ve got:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-content-terms-of-use/
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-user-agreement/

Also is there some way to contact Anet directly to inquire?

Thanks again for the input

What the hell? Why does it keep putting kitten?

Kitten lol? Kitten = kitten

When they talk about one keystroke per “action” it seems like they’re talking about different attacks/abilites or functions being ran in sequence or at the same time. When they specifically mention auto-clicker they’re talking about something that allows you to open chests or other things while you’re playing or doing something else.

I consider the scroll lock the repeat key on my computer, which is it’s single function. Not just used for GW2. The way I look at it the scroll lock has one “action” and the left click has one “action”. I have to use the mouse exactly as I would normally, just without the excessive clicking which is both kitten the mouse and my finger. There is no unfair game play advantage that I know of. I’ve heard one person mention that it’s an unfair advantage for getting the alcohol achievement, but it still takes pretty much the same amount of time to do it (little quicker without having to break to rest your finger).

Anyway, until I’m told otherwise I’m considering this an ordinary function of my pc.

Thx for the link

Just been reviewing everything I can find on the topic…
From what I can understand as long as your binding one action to one button and you aren’t giving yourself an unfare advantage in gameplay you’re fine.

This is the script I’m running:

~LButton::

Loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollState, ScrollLock, T

If ScrollState = U
Break
Else
Send {LButton}
Sleep, 20
}
Return

I’m using autohotkey to autoclick with my left mouse button when scroll lock is engaged.
I’ve had ppl tell me it’s not legal and I could get banned.
It’s not something that I use strictly for GW2 and I don’t see any possible advantages to be gained.
Help please…
Thx in advance