Guild Wars 2

Derek.9254:

lol its almost like everyone in this thread has no idea how a company works and stays alive. I did play gw1 and i also played wow. I would like there to be only cosmetic upgrades but i knew from the start something like this would happen.
Why? because a company does not succeed if only focuses on one small playerbase. While tons of you gw1 “vets” are complaining you guys also have to know its common sense that they are not going to just make a gw1.5 with better graphics.
It needs to appeal to players from many game types not just the select few that dont want change.
I mean i understand the anger but come on we cant just live in the past forever.
Ascended gear is a new tier, whats done is done and no matter what you do it is here to stay.
Your complaints will not change what will immediately happen but may make them think twice about going to another tier beyond ascended

Commercial is Commercial, but that doesn’t change the fact that they “promised” to sell you Diet coke for years then give you “Coke” the original after 3 months.
In terms of revenue, losing old and loyal players is guarantee a loss of long term income, no further purchase of expansion and gems. I highly doubt the new implementation would generate more players than losing.

Not saying Anet shouldn’t change to make the game more profitable. Afterall, its not an non-profit organisation. But this is not the right direction seriously.

Progression is not the major factor of retaining customer in MMOs, especially in a game like this. The first of all, they should fix the bugs and create more intellectual matching system on pvp and wvw in order to protect their core value and selling point of the product.

PVE wise, it is nice to have new dungeons. and if they want to target hardcore PVE “challengers”. They should make the mobs act more intellectual, with the same stats currently have instead of playing with numbers. even Just making mobs able to assist train, using skills or all sorts and able to do finish blow would make the PVE fight much more challenging than it is.

Gear wise, more stat combinations are welcome and not to mention the sigils and runes. Try to tailor the rune/sigils effects that can make a synergy with certain build. Those are fun, those are good stuff that keeps people occupied for hrs and think about their builds.

Just want to emphasis one thing, PROGRESSION doesnt bring fun itself. Memories and the process does. If they insist progression is a must to maintain the players, then I have to hands down on any games produced by this company.

Although, ya I dont expect them changing it, but still “hope” for it.
They are the one suffering, not us. We will miss a good game when it gets to a point that we wont tolerate and quit and they miss the future cash inflows.
The money we spent “$60” (min.) = 3 monthly subscriptions. cant expect more already. But that doesn’t mean we cant hope for a better GW2 world. And expressing here is one of the route, if they care.

terra.3501:

I really don’t understand why there is 128 pages on this topic. It’s not even a discussion; the arguments go around in circles.

Those who welcome the changes will play. Those who don’t, can still play the awesome content the game still offers without going Ascended, or quit. It’s really that simple.

For the complainers, have a little dignity. Don’t beg Anet to get rid of these changes, which I highly doubt they’ll do since it seems like the system has been in the works for a long time. Why even waste your time continuing to drone on all the evils of these changes? Just leave.

1. 128 pages isnt too much, most of us doesnt really bother using the forum until their rage goes over and feel they need to express their feeling.

2. That will happen eventually. I love this game, and loved the vision they advertised before releasing. I believe a lots of other who oppose this ascend gear stuff would agree.

From the spec of this game, the player population aka. customer base is mainly built for wvw and spvp. Thats the major market segment they initially targeting. By implementing this so called progression stuff, they will satisify a portion of another segment of the market who loves gear progression. But obviously they will kill their loyal customer base who long for Anet’s initial idea of no grinding and wvw.

When you look at the market out there, there are no matches on big RvR combat type of MMOs against GW2 atm, plus making it distinctive. If this move harms the relations between the major player base, I would petty much foresee they are losing population faster than they could gain “new customers”, which is basically simple logic.

For GW2 sake, should they consult the marketing head before engaging this or anger majority of their specific niche of segment out in the MMO market…

3. No point begging, and we are not begging. Its their choice to consider what we expressed. Whether they will make a change now or not, the game still runs.
Cash is paid, product is delivered, and now the product may get rotten. As a player that enjoyed the game, its just sad to see whats going on.

Not to mention, it doesn’t do any good to a company financial. Afterall, Goodwill is one of the most important asset.

After losing credit, who is gonna pay the bill next time.

GonzoNeo.4965:

Left 2 days to the update

Will arena.net listen the feedback of the comunity and have the guts to delay the update to delete the ascend items ?

Will arena.net go for all , launch the update, betray the community, lost the trust of their consumer with lies only for dont stop a update ?

I dont care wait 2-3 weeks if they launch the update with exotic rewards and improve the reward of the old dungeons, and what i say reward i dont say new tier items, i say no more “3 blues” in chests etc…

Arena.net after read this entiere post this update could have 2 ends, kill the game to the core community and say goodbye to GW saga and the trust of your community, or stop this now, rethink what are you doing, make your ideas clear and tell all details to the comunity before to launch such major change to the game.

My bet, arena.net dont care for the core community, continue the update, bye bye GW2 and is sad after almost 8 years playing GW1 and 5 years waiting the game, kill the game betraying your own philosophy.

Im still waiting for some answer of Linsey Murdock to explain where she gatherer the feedback to made this, and Colin Johanson and Mike O´brian to apalogoize for all lies.

This is not gonna happen, they will let this post die these days they launch the update and ingore their community.

This week is a sad week to all GW core fans.

Its not just a sad week for GW core fans but others who believed in their philosophy at the development stage and long waiting for the game.
Still couldnt believe they give up so quickly. How could they not know the core value of their own product and what market population they are aiming for. Understand what are the consumer needs! People bought this game because they believe you guys, have faith in Anet that will give them a game that is promised to be like what the Devs said in the interviews. So disappointing on hearing this patch.

And now they are dumping their best aspect and their distinctive advantage as an MMO. YOUR GAME IS GOOD, the classes has their interesting way of playing, WvW is fun altho its never balanced by population. When you start having something that increase stat cap on a tier of content, thats mean you have to spend time to gear up to pve/WvW, especially for wvw. This way you decrease the amount of time players could spent on other characters and other aspect of the game and making old stuff obsolete.

History tells you the result, we do not need to see it implemented in order to judge the outcome. Whats the fun of it? playing a same char? progression? come on, don’t treat players dumb. Especially those who have been playing MMOs since using dial-up modems.

PROGRESSION does not make the game itself fun. If you want your game to be fun and attractive, its not to make the new content “stat wise” but “act wise”, change the AI, who like pveing content that do the same shxt all the time but numbers.

I have no clue who actually authorized this no-brainer move, but this move has hurt so many people’s feeling by just reading the “new idea” that is different from what Anet promised. My guild was cursing all over the mumble right after knowing this.
Think of those who had faith in you guys, what market segment your product is aiming and whats the core they want. Simple marketing sense, but i doubt this exists in devs mind when they decided this.

This move screwed your own credit rating, and the lost trust is hard to regain. Will wait to see how this goes on. I sincerely hope someone will notice their wrong doing and admit it instead of going on.

I am buying Product A, not anything else. GG salesman
Don’t give me Coke when I am buying a bottle of water.

Tallis.5607:

Valtameri.2075:

Tell me about it, just came from Planetside 2 forum and oh my what a whinefest.
Not as bad as here tho, but still…

Well, what did you expect? That players said ‘oh, well, you told us that this would not be a grind MMO, but now you changed, no problem, Anet, we will just be quiet and grind, grind grind’?

And, no, we do not whine often. I didn’t see anyone whine in the last 3 months, except over Legendary drop rates (which Anet is now changing) and botting (which Anet is doing something about it too).

This broken no-grind-MMO promise is a serious topic, something that people feel very, very strong about.

We do not whine about the small stufkittenBut we do ’’whine’’ when you break one of your core promises.

Cant imagine they break the core value of the product that EASILY, betraying the ppl that trusted them on making something different. Thumbs down for sure on those who agreed on such idea. After playing MMOs for 15 years, gear grinding/level grinding is the worst of all when ur focus is PVP and WVW.

If Anet wants to makes endgame PVE more fun or harder for those hardcore pvers, they should seriously just improve the AI and adding more suprising elements on fight instead of focusing “STATS” and numbers.

Totally disappointed on this, not just being a liar, but also making me a liar when promoting gw2 to my friends as a “non grinding” fun game. GG

as title, seriously dunno who the shxt think of this idea, no marketing sense basically. if u devs want to differentiate the game as promised at the begining with all those interviews, u would definately not doing this and enhance the game “difficulty” on pve with more superior AI and so many better way of making “progessions” PURE DISAPPOINTING ON READING THE NEWS. gg

Just to share a bit of experience after updating 306.97 driver and config 3D profile according to the sticking post for 2 days.

Not sure whether i didnt play enough or not, (6 hrs after work) I havent encounter any freezing or shuttering these 2 days.

frame rate is good, pve area 100-180, wvw 60+

if you guys havent try those yet, may worth a try.

SteveK.5827:

I thought it was just me but here in Australia having excactly the same problems.
Hope this will be fixed soon as almost unplayable. GW2 will lose a lot of customers if they don’t fix it soon, no more extra characters for me and I will not be buying my wife her own GW2 account if it is not fixed.
Does anyone from GW2 read these forums as nothing seems to have been said ??

Havent encountered anymore lag spikes since that few days, did you try pinging to other locations in US?

Seriously, I think this problem is caused by 2 sides. I had no issue with old kitten 8800 GT till a recent upgrade to 660 TI last month. Since then, all drivers doesnt work great, giving random driver reset at a point of time. Until I tried 306.97 on 14th, whole day wvw, dungeons 10 hrs+ without any issue, frame rate ranging from 80-180.
And after the patch on 15th, the problem start coming up again, but way less often than with 306.23 before. It could be the driver, or could be my factory oc’ed GPU causing the problem.
Afterall, simulation program may not prove ur system’s stability. I was running prime 35 on OC cpu for 1hr end up getting BAoD in gw2 until I lower the clock. So should 3D mark etc, able to run those simulation doesnt mean it will be 100% stable in real run.

I doubt Nvidia actually made specific adjustment to GW2 yet, as we didnt see that being stated in the driver notes so far. Guess we have to wait till Anet and Nvidia actually work together.

From HK here. I encountered ping issue also in the past few days ago, but not only to gw2 server. I tried ping to US sites like yahoo.com and the result is also high like 600-1500 during the lag spike. I tot it was my ISP but seems like many ppl across the world had the issue as well. Might be something affecting the undersea cables.

P.S. no lag spike encountered since yesterday

You guys are not alone, I have the the same thing since I upgraded my card to 660 Ti from 8800 GT. When you alt tab to desktop while it freeze, you could see nvidia driver notification saying driver failed and reseting. After the driver reset in like 10 sec, you can continue playing, tho you would probably die if u are in combat in wvw or dungeon. and the frame rate will drop dramatically for like 15-30min.

And ya, many of my guildies does not encounter this somehow. but i think its a driver related issue with nvidia new series. Btw, did you try the latest driver 306.97 or 306.63? I seems to encounter the issue way less now with these. from once in 30min – a few hrs to once or twice a day. QQ i wish there is a beta driver that fits the card and the game.

System information :
Win 7 64bit
•Intel Core i7-3570K 3.4 GHz
•8GB Memory
•NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 TI, 8800 GT
onboard realtek audio

Since BWE, I was using 8800GT and had some fps issue until patches. Then it is all fine no crash no fps issue until I bought 660 TI for better gameplay. With 306. 23 driver, I m encountering short duration freeze randomly and sharp drop of fps to like 1x-2x fps, especially in " Heart of mist" (most often).

Details on freeze:
mouse cursor movable
BGM continues
Black screen then audio sound went shattering (zzeeezeeezee)

When I try to alt tab out during freeze, I will see nvidia warning on the bottom right saying something like “driver failure, driver resetting”

I have tried driver sweeping and reinstalling nvidia and realtek sound driver but doesnt help.

I wonder whether anyone is having the same issue. Not really sure if its nvidia problem or Anet issue. Although it is not crashing the game, but the freeze and fps drop is really annoying when u are having a fight in wvw and dungeons.

Edited 16/10

Been using new driver 306.97 for 2 days, the result is very good till today… no crash and no freezing for like 1 whole day then freeze start coming up again…. petty QQ ~.~ any one tried some beta drivers that doesnt encounter freezing/crash?