Mantras? Geez I hope we don’t get them. Would far prefer stances but even shouts would be better.
Mantra’s is just a guess, it fits with being someone who uses magic, and I would never say anything is better until something is shown. I just think mantras have the potential to be really useful for an ele. If someone said, “Give mantras to thieves!” I would say it might not fit (depending on what the elite spec would be).
I like some shouts and dislike others, (I REALLY like the Reaper shouts). Just like how I use some mantras or stances and don’t use others. It would be the effect that they cause that would determine how good it is. Can the new ability eles get be awesome? Yes. Does it really matter what type of ability it is, until we see it? No.
/sigh
This is all speculation though. We don’t know for a fact what eles are getting. Nothing has actually been confirmed. Datamined info is not always correct and sometimes even if it is correct it can be misleading. What happens if ANet decides to make all weapons have ascended counterparts? What happens if they were somehow mislabeled and really are precursers? or Legendaries? What happens if ANet really was like, “Hey guys, want to see me mess with the people? Let me add this into the game files, and they gonna go crazy. MUAHAHAHA (in an Evil Maniacal way)”?
P.S. Option 4 may not actually occur but would be pretty hilarious.
Yep you are right and around 700 million of those over 1.2 billion people play MMO and the most popular of them are free to play with no subscription or pay for the expansions and yet one gets 1 billion a year and the other 897 million a year.
WTF is wrong with MMO its clear that you can make more profit if you are not greedy.
Edit to add more:
Dungeon Fighter Online has achieved over 3 million concurrent users during its peak in August 24, 2012 in China alone according to data released by Nexon.
And these games profit predominately from micro transactions. And yes, the transactions are not mandatory but dollar per dollar are more expensive than the ones than Black Lion Gem Store purchases in this game. (In DFO you can’t even change your look without A. deleting your character or B. paying for it. In GW2 you can at least get really lucky from the Black Lion Treasure Chest.
Also if your talking about MMOs don’t add games like League of Legends into the list. Yes, it grossed the most revenue than any game but we’re not talking about moba games.
Going back MMOs, when its hard to compare an MMO like WoW or GW2 to an MMO like DFO. and this reason is because its 2 completely different niches. The work needed to go into DFO is a lot less. It doesn’t need as many people to work on the game. Therefore less amounts of money to payout and more revenue.
So the most popular MMO being WOW who has 10 million players out of 1.2 billion people that play video games on this planet. Maybe this will put things in perspective.
I will change some with the overwhelming majority.
The most popular MMO is Dungeon Fighter Online not WOW and guess what kind of subscription plan it has?
These number’s are very skewed. Last time there was a subscription check at the end of the quarter for WoW the number is by down to 7.1 million with subs. There isn’t yet a way to see how many are able to play with WoW Tokens, but i highly doubt its as high as 3 million. The most people that play WoW, aside from Wrath of the Lich King, are when new expansions come out and usually a slight bump on new patches. When you looked up how many people play video games I’m pretty sure it said more than 1.2 billion.
PS: When your looking at video game popularity you should not Registered Users but Active Users. Dungeon Fighter Online may still be the largest played MMO, but the numbers change largely, for example WoW has over 100 million registered users but only 7.1 million that are subscribed (as of the end of last quarter).
Edit: Quoted the wrong thing and put in the correct quote. Also added last paragraph.
I wouldn’t be opposed to warhorn, I suppose. Might be interesting. I can sort of agree with others that another main hand would be very handy, but I’m really not a melee type person. So that sort of makes sword “meh” for me.
I’m a bit more interested in the new 6 – 0 skills tempest will get though.
Mes got wells
Guard got traps
Necro got shouts
What skill type do we think we’ll get?
Kinda wishing for Mantra’s to be honest. Kinda works too, since Mantra’s are of magical nature
As of this time this is more speculation than anything else. What if ANet decides to make amazing ascended weapons of every type but most are not in the game files yet?
Most importantly stop saying things that make me want to cry inside!
People, don’t forget:
- We owe nothing to Anet. It’s a good company but we owe nothing;
- Anet isn’t doing any favors;
- Anet has a business model for GW2. They decided about B2P + gem store, so even though someone play for a decade, the service was totally paid and this should not be treated like a favor.
Your right, nothing is owed to ArenaNet or NCSoft, but when a company make a product you enjoy most people find a way to support them, be it music, movies, or games. I know people that watch movies solely based on who directed them. I, personally, will always try a Blizzard game because for the most part they continue to impress me, (they have made some questionable calls every now and then but overall it works out.) I also really enjoy GW2, and purchasing the expansion to it, which ever package it may be, is one way I will support it.
- It’s not only the base game and gems market that rule a game like this… the company needs us to logon in a regular basis… so the game can keep growing. Who wants to play a mmo as crowded as a desert at midday sun?
Don’t bother to pay it again? Feels like a good price to you? Nice! But don’t rush to diminish the ones believing that an extra slot is fair enough.
I understand the top point, but I don’t know if it is viable in this topic, as I don’t know if I’ve seen emptiness in the game yet.
The bottom point to this quote I don’t understand.
50$ for 3 maps, lmao sorry not gonna hapen. Want me to pay the full game price again? Gladly just double the size of the game world. For expansion that is less than 1/6 size of the game i can pay max 1/6 price of the game simple as that.
This is a very naive way of thinking.
First, it is under everyone’s understanding that there will be 3 maps, but no one know how large these maps will be. Your also forgetting all the other additions that will be made to the game, ranging from quality of life improvements to the addition of the mastery system, elite specializations, guild halls, etc. (There is at least one comprehensive list that has already been made based on the information that has been released.)
Second, No expansion EVER has doubled the content of the base game. Sure, they may have been cheaper but there are things that are mandatory for play that offset their costs such as subscription costs. For example Warlords of Draenor cost 50$ on release and it also has a subscription cost of at least 15$. Yes people may now buy game time with gold, but that costs someone else 20$ i.e. it really isn’t free.
Price of games has not kept up with the general rate of inflation, and also it is far more expensive to make AAA video games now than it was in the past, so you could argue that the rate of inflation for games is even greater than inflation in general.
Ok, I exaggerated when I said significantly inflated since they (the games) have pretty much stayed around 60$ over the past many (10ish?) years. But in a way, one thing I was also referring to, when I did say inflation, is the fact that in the past there was no types of micro transactions for games, be it as DLC or extra play time in the case of many “free-to-play” games (i.e. games like Candy Crush Saga).
Companies are basically subsidizing the cost of new games and then making their profits from selling DLC and expansions. Just the way the industry works. It’s also why you see so many “free-to-play” MMOs. They really aren’t free. You end up spending a boat load on DLC just to get basic functionality or to be competitive. You should think of them more like a free trial than an actual game.
On this point I agree, but it may not have sounded like that on my post. I apologize for the confusion.
Yup, totally agreed. No wonder such scummy marketing tactics keep existing.
Not necessarily. The price of games have significantly inflated from what PC gaming was years ago. I believe when my dad bought me StarCraft it was only 40$. Now most baseline games cost 60$. Many expansions and DLC have varying costs depending on the amount of things they are adding. Most “true” expansions cost 40$-50$ with the prices shifting to the latter. DLC are far cheaper but its what I would compare to the Gem Store.
These marketing tactics may have been considered “scummy” in the past but with the all the the free gaming that exists now a days ranging from Candy Crush Saga to truly free MMOs these tactics have become the norm otherwise many of these companies couldn’t compete.
Additionally, I don’t find this as scummy. They told me what I was going to get, and I was satisfied with it, so I bought it. This is not like haggling on the streets of New York, or anywhere else in the world for that matter. This is like going to WalMart and buy a new TV that’s 1000$. If you don’t like it don’t buy it or wait for it to go on sale.
Off Topic: When I say this I thought of:
“Now place the ring on his hand. A ring is like a circle, it goes on forever. It’s not like a triangle, triangle have corners. It’s like a circle. "
I also bought the Ultimate Edition. Way I saw the deal was, 50$ for the expansion (which seems to be the cost of most expansions I’m interested in these days) and an additional 50$ for the gems, which I occasionally buy. Then I also get all the additional stuff in the deal.
I don’t think that waiting until July would be a problem. (Written below is the same sentence written in Portuguese with an apology in parentheses about not having accents for certain letters.)
Eu nao acho que esperando ate Julio vai ser um problema. (Meu teclado e un teclado Engleis e nao tem accentos. Me desculpe)
