Guild Wars 2

You can forgot shortbow, its combination with quickness is bugged since the 07/10 “glitch fix” patch.

OrangeMarmalade.6147:

Also stop exaggerating people, this sole nerf didn’t make Ranger unplayable, those who say that this completly destroyed the class can’t either play Ranger or they want it to be easy faceroll and not so skill dependant, this didn’t ruin our class, however we didn’t deserve this nerf, but if it remains it still didn’t kill our class.

Well, replace the unplayable words below by “not viable”

It makes a combination of skills not viable, it makes a ranger template based on shortbow + conditions + quickness not viable.
You can’t use a ShortBow with Quickness habilities, since it’s bugged and doesn’t correspond to the tooltip description that is :

Skills and actions are twice as fast

See many posts you’ll find in this thread to understand that.

Therefore, when you play a ranger with ShortBow, you shouldn’t :

- have to put 5 points in Bestmasteries trait just to benefits the 2s of quickness when switching pets.
- use the slot skill called “Quickening Zephyr”.
- place a “Superior sigil of rage” or “Superior sigil of quickness” on your shortbow.

All this due to the SB+Quickness bugged combination.

Well, let’s see what my ranger is wearing :
1 rare armor (power, precision, condition damage) (was about to change it when the fix applied, didn’t do it for obvious reasons)
2 exotic armor (power, precision, condition damage)
3 exotic armor (power, vitality, condition damage)
2 exotic accessories (power, vitality, condition damage)
2 exotic ring (power, vitality, condition damage)
1 exotic amulet (power, vitality, condition damage)
6 superior rune of speed (for quasi constant swiftness in WvW)

weapon set 1 :
- exotic Shortbow (power, precision, condition damage) – can be swapped with another exotic shortbow that have vitality instead of precision.

Weapon set 2 :
- exotic axe (power, precision, condition damage)
- exotic horn (power, precision, critical hit)

the traits are :
30 (IV – VIII – XI) / 5 / 20 (VI – VII) / 10 (V) / 5

My ranger has a quasi constant swiftness in order to roam in WvW with a group of guildies (but will be fixed soon, it may not be considered fun).
I was able to spam something like 8 arrow/second for 6 seconds (4 with Quickening Zephyr + 2 with pet switch) (6*8 = 48 arrows) while trying to move around my target in order to place bleed stacks.
For thoses 6 seconds, dmgs are :

• 11.4k damages (basing on skill tootips) (239*48)
• ~3k condition damage with bleeding when moving myself correctly or if the pvp opponent doesn’t move, that you’ll never find on WvW maps excepts PNJ.
• extra 22% crits for something like 2.5k dmgs.

This only using the “no fun way, aka spam” Mr Jon Peters does’nt want us to play anymore, due to lack of fun.
That is something like 17k dmgs dealt in 6 second, not enought to kill a descent lvl 80 character with a full exotic stuff.
With the nerf of SB quickness, it’s not 6 seconds to deal that amount of damages, it’s something like 9 or 10 seconds, or more.
Considering you’ll have to add something like 3 second of shooting with other skillshots from bow or axe/horn to kill your opponent, that was ~9s of fight before the “fix” bug, it’s now 12 or 13s.

What other weapon will allow me to do that amount of damage in that time with the stuff i played one month and a half to buy/craft ? It won’t be a LB, nor GS, nor Axe/torch nor anything else.
= the ranger template I used is now unplayable due to this fix, thanks Arena.net.

Adding this from the official wiki ranger’s page – weapon’s part (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ranger) :

Shortbow — Quick skirmishing weapon relying on movement, positioning and conditions for quick kills.

With that nerf/glitch fix, i think there’s somrthing to add at the end of this line : ’but not fun".

Playing a character that shoot as fast as a 70 years old depressive is not fun.

My 0.02$ :

Maybe it’s related with all bots you can see in each zone that are only rangers with SB and Bear pet.

They said they banned tons of accounts for bot using.
Nerfing SB is then a good way to “deal with thoses issues”.

I think that, in order to deal with those issues", they should have “fix” the bear “animation glitch” instead of the SB one. :°

Hey

Quickness is only slower with SB.
It’s still as fast as it was pre-patch with axe or LB.

Note : SADLY, THIS IS A SB THREAD.

Thanks.