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Since when does my English make you cry so hard?
Your cries are hard to understand when worded in such an illiterate manner, which is why I cannot even respond to them.
Maybe its time for you to l2p your necro instead of whining on the forum about a single trait. Also you have mentioned in one of your posts:
Obviously nothing was done about it, but at least the newest necro spec can finish off such crap with dagger/staff auto, and DS 1.So, as you have stated, Automated Response is not OP. Perhaps… you know… l2p?
I’d throw that right back at you, but you dont need to l2p, you just need to roll that trait.
The thing with that setup is that it’s super glassy and full-out offensive. I prefer running something more balanced, but apparently you fail to note that not everyone wants to roll the fotm.
You started to claim that something is overpowered and should be nerfed.
I think everyone pretty much agree that you are guy who cries for a nerf in this thread. You have nothing else to say except “I can speak better English than you”, which is clearly the sign of a lack of intelligence. You started to attack me by complaining about my English, it is even more clear that you cannot even make conversation in a polite manner, as soon as you run out of points to defend your silly complain, you start to drag excuses out of the topic.Engineers are not even close to fotm and everyone knows that necromancers are the fotm atm. So pretty obvious that it is you who fail to understand the meaning of improvement. You play a class which got dramatically buffed, yet you have to come to cry for a nerf on the forum. Let me make it clear again, you started to cry for a nerf, not me. So stop crying for nerf and l2p.
The main issue isn’t only that it can be OP, but also that it is a terrible skill design, because it’s a hard counter to a particular build. You should always promote versatility and soft counters that don’t make a trait completely useless in certain situations, and OP in others.
If you cannot fathom that, because you’re so focused on your whine about necros, then trying to lead any kind of discussion with you is an effort wasted.
Besides, I’ve started playing the class long before it got the few extra buffs, so you can take your fotm cries elsewhere, and then you could, for a change, actually start reading (and understanding) my posts, or should I translate them into your native language?
Again, let me state it once more for you, since it seems like you clearly do not understand what you are doing here. The title of this thread is “Automated Response is Overpowered”, it is about YOU whine and cry and here about engineers, not I here complain about necros. Again, you call this trait fotm, I mean… seriously… Do you even acknowledge that this trait has been NERFED after this patch? It was immune to conditions when you reach 1/4 your HP.
It is you who cannot read, you don’t even understand the issue here, you simply just come here to complain about one trait that may counter necromancers when they reach 25% of their HP bar. You don’t realize the whole situation about the two professions in this conversation. Despite necros being in very strong pvp position atm, you still come here to cry a river for nerf, and yes let me state it again, it was you who started to cry here, and the whole thread of this is about some silly necromancers who cannot play their class even after huge buff, but come to the forum and cry. Dude, stop crying, and l2p your class. For the whole time I am just trying to tell you that stop complaining and play, but yet you just won’t listen. If you think someone who doesn’t receive your opinion as his/her own perspective is because of they lack of language skill, perhaps you should go back to school and take some human behavior and communication skill courses?
Despite alot people are complaining about necromancers, I don’t yet feel they are OP. But based on your theory above, lets make a similar theory, shall we?
The main issue isn’t only that necromancers can be OP, but also that it is a terrible class design, because it’s a hard counter to almost all builds&classes atm. You should always promote versatility and soft counters that don’t make almost all classes completely useless in most situations.
Feel happy now? Got the theory? Or shall I translate it into your mother tongue?
Since when does my English make you cry so hard?
Your cries are hard to understand when worded in such an illiterate manner, which is why I cannot even respond to them.
Maybe its time for you to l2p your necro instead of whining on the forum about a single trait. Also you have mentioned in one of your posts:
Obviously nothing was done about it, but at least the newest necro spec can finish off such crap with dagger/staff auto, and DS 1.So, as you have stated, Automated Response is not OP. Perhaps… you know… l2p?
I’d throw that right back at you, but you dont need to l2p, you just need to roll that trait.
The thing with that setup is that it’s super glassy and full-out offensive. I prefer running something more balanced, but apparently you fail to note that not everyone wants to roll the fotm.
You started to claim that something is overpowered and should be nerfed.
I think everyone pretty much agree that you are guy who cries for a nerf in this thread. You have nothing else to say except “I can speak better English than you”, which is clearly the sign of a lack of intelligence. You started to attack me by complaining about my English, it is even more clear that you cannot even make conversation in a polite manner, as soon as you run out of points to defend your silly complain, you start to drag excuses out of the topic.
Engineers are not even close to fotm and everyone knows that necromancers are the fotm atm. So pretty obvious that it is you who fail to understand the meaning of improvement. You play a class which got dramatically buffed, yet you have to come to cry for a nerf on the forum. Let me make it clear again, you started to cry for a nerf, not me. So stop crying for nerf and l2p.
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especially given how the engineer’s tradition of being a ragball himself.
Now now, we all know necros have been holding that title ever since launch.
Now, let me ask you, this thread is about you whine engineers or about engineers whine necros?
English isn’t your forte, is it.
Anyhow, I am somewhat glad to see at least some are ready to admit the trait can easily be on the OP side in certain situations.
Since when does my English make you cry so hard? Besides, in any situation starting to complain the language skill of other people is clearly the sign of ignorance, childish, and a lack of intelligence.
Maybe its time for you to l2p your necro instead of whining on the forum about a single trait. Also you have mentioned in one of your posts:
Obviously nothing was done about it, but at least the newest necro spec can finish off such crap with dagger/staff auto, and DS 1.
So, as you have stated, Automated Response is not OP. Perhaps… you know… l2p?
I am also somewhat glad to see at least some have already admitted that their whole class is OP and they cannot stand that a trait which counters them in certain situations, so they have to come to the forum to whine.
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If you want a screenshot of my most played classes I can definitely provide it. In fact, you can find it attached if you’re so inclined to find out what I play the most.
The truth is I played it myself and I could feel the trait was definitely giving me a leg up I otherwise probably wouldn’t have if I didn’t have the trait.
My whole thing is, it shouldn’t last as long as it does. And that’s pretty much it.
Now I have just checked your posts. 19 hours ago from now you posted in another thread called “TEST-Concept-To-Kill-a-Necro” I will c/p your post so that everyone can see that I was talking the truth, so here it goes:
“Playing as a necro myself and not playing the current rave that is the Dhuumfire build, I am currently playing a Deathshroud build. And I found that, I usually win when I start my CC chain before they can put enough condi pressure on me.Even if they do get condis on me, I can just let it tick in DS allowing most of the damage to waste away.Also Engineers definitely need Automated Response in order to not get rolled completely. The simple fact that Necros can flip the condis you put on them, back to you is what makes it hard for engies. Also, no stability. "
Must I say more?
I’m not sure how that proves me wrong…. ?
It proves that you play a necro and know that Automated Response prevents necros from total facerolling engineers so that you cannot stand it which causes the reason you come to the forum and whine.
Well, I haven’t been exactly facerolling people (but I do know it is easier to win in certain situations than it used to be), because I usually look for rooms that include more than just the classic cannon fodder. I’ve faced several warriors that have posed significant challenge and even killed me several times, simply because overload of CC, good condi cleanse(s) and well timed shield blocks are key to fighting vs necros, and also because I don’t roll cookie cutters but stick to what is more balanced in my view.
P.S. Stop being so bitter about necros, it’s a rather funny/sad view to see such childish whine, especially given how the necro’s tradition of being a ragball himself.
Btw, are you even reading my posts, or is your reading comprehension too clouded by your necro hate?
First, read the thread title, second, let me fix it for you.
Stop being so bitter about engineers, it’s a rather funny/sad view to see such childish whine, especially given how the engineer’s tradition of being a ragball himself.
Btw, are you even reading my posts, or is your reading comprehension too clouded by your engineer hate?
Now, let me ask you, this thread is about you whine engineers or about engineers whine necros?
I made the thread on this trait months ago in the necro forum sections.
My main issue isn’t the trait’s effect per say (although it is impossible to finish an engi with that trait when their opponent is roughly at the same amount of hp remaining and has negigable sources of raw damage), if they could bring , but the fact it has no ICD. There isn’t a single necro trait without an ICD, even when the skill description doesn’t state one, and I’m certain the same applies to most other classess’ traits, so why making an immunity trait be exception to this rule of thumb.It also brings me back to the question posed in my own thread: Why is the raw damage of a condition-inflicting skill being ignored?
So again basically you play a necro and have been facerolling people after patch. But suddenly you find out that you can’t do that to all classes because theres one trait of one class that counters you when they go below 1/4 of their total HP. So in order to achieve your facerolling stomping fun this has to be nerfed, right?
Automated Response is a really good trait. To be honest, it’s too good.
Automated Response grants the Engineer 100% duration reduction to all conditions as long as they remain at 25% health. For a player that is purely focused on applying conditions, this is like an I win button. I cannot tell you how many times I have survived the onslaught of a Necro just because this trait kicked in at 25% health. And I feel it gives the Engi an unfair advantage for it to not have a duration and cooldown.
So this is my suggestion, change Automated Response to “Cure 2 conditions and become Immune to all conditons for 5s” on a 60s cooldown or “Activate Cleansing Burst when you have more than 2 unique conditions on you. (with water field)” on a 30s cooldown. Because right now, good engies can outlast almost any condi spec just because of this trait.
Clearly you have never played engineer or hardly played it seriously before patch, since you don’t even know it’s been nerfed just now which means it has been better before the patch(immune to condition when at/below 25%).
For me its pretty obvious that you have been playing something else before patch. After patch you switched to necro since they got buffed alot. You were facerolling your keyboard when playing necro after patch until you encountered an engineer who ran this trait. Suddenly you found out that you couldn’t faceroll anymore against him/her and eventually got owned. Then you came to the forum and started to whine because you found out that there was a trait called “Automated Response”. Suddenly you decided that instead of improving your own skill in playing necromancer, this trait cannot exist or has to be changed.
Nice story making bro, but cool story won’t make you a better player, so I’d like to say “better luck next time” .
If you want a screenshot of my most played classes I can definitely provide it. In fact, you can find it attached if you’re so inclined to find out what I play the most.
The truth is I played it myself and I could feel the trait was definitely giving me a leg up I otherwise probably wouldn’t have if I didn’t have the trait.
My whole thing is, it shouldn’t last as long as it does. And that’s pretty much it.
Now I have just checked your posts. 19 hours ago from now you posted in another thread called “TEST-Concept-To-Kill-a-Necro” I will c/p your post so that everyone can see that I was talking the truth, so here it goes:
“Playing as a necro myself and not playing the current rave that is the Dhuumfire build, I am currently playing a Deathshroud build. And I found that, I usually win when I start my CC chain before they can put enough condi pressure on me.Even if they do get condis on me, I can just let it tick in DS allowing most of the damage to waste away.Also Engineers definitely need Automated Response in order to not get rolled completely. The simple fact that Necros can flip the condis you put on them, back to you is what makes it hard for engies. Also, no stability. "
Must I say more?
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Automated Response is a really good trait. To be honest, it’s too good.
Automated Response grants the Engineer 100% duration reduction to all conditions as long as they remain at 25% health. For a player that is purely focused on applying conditions, this is like an I win button. I cannot tell you how many times I have survived the onslaught of a Necro just because this trait kicked in at 25% health. And I feel it gives the Engi an unfair advantage for it to not have a duration and cooldown.
So this is my suggestion, change Automated Response to “Cure 2 conditions and become Immune to all conditons for 5s” on a 60s cooldown or “Activate Cleansing Burst when you have more than 2 unique conditions on you. (with water field)” on a 30s cooldown. Because right now, good engies can outlast almost any condi spec just because of this trait.
Clearly you have never played engineer or hardly played it seriously before patch, since you don’t even know it’s been nerfed just now which means it has been better before the patch(immune to condition when at/below 25%).
For me its pretty obvious that you have been playing something else before patch. After patch you switched to necro since they got buffed alot. You were facerolling your keyboard when playing necro after patch until you encountered an engineer who ran this trait. Suddenly you found out that you couldn’t faceroll anymore against him/her and eventually got owned. Then you came to the forum and started to whine because you found out that there was a trait called “Automated Response”. Suddenly you decided that instead of improving your own skill in playing necromancer, this trait cannot exist or has to be changed.
Nice story making bro, but cool story won’t make you a better player, so I’d like to say “better luck next time” .
If you want a screenshot of my most played classes I can definitely provide it. In fact, you can find it attached if you’re so inclined to find out what I play the most.
The truth is I played it myself and I could feel the trait was definitely giving me a leg up, I otherwise probably wouldn’t have if I didn’t have the trait.
My whole thing is, it shouldn’t last as long as it does. And that’s pretty much it.
First, no one can know if the SS was yours or not. Second, if you claim that you have played engineer so much how come you don’t know that the trait has been nerfed already? So basically it has been nerfed just now but you still come to the forum and whine that it is too OP? For me it is pretty obvious that you don’t even know this trait before and suddenly find out that “oh look, a trait, too OP!” Besides, how can one trait make a class OP? And again, pretty much when someone makes thread like this that requires their own class to be nerfed is just plain stupid and arrogant. Let me just ask you two questions:Do you acknowledge that that trait has been better before this patch and Who do you think you are that you require engineer to be nerfed/changed because of you feel yourself OP with one trait?
Besides, if you think yourself too OP when playing with that trait, simply don’t pick it. Or does it bother you so that you also don’t want other engineers to pick it? Either the way, I don’t see the point that someone wants their OWN class to be nerfed, pretty flaw logic.
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//Edit: your sugestion is totaly sux. Alongside Cleansing Formula 409 it will be laughable useless trait if it will be changed this way. Its GM so if you can change something it must be like 33% condi duration reduction all the time.
How would be a laughably useless trait if it removed 2 condis and then made you immune to reapplication for 5 seconds? or if it activated Cleansing burst (cleansing burst removes 2 condis, just in case you forgot) whilst also creating the water field?
I guess we both different takes on what would be “useless”.
Seriously, stop posting please? In my previous post I clearly pointed out that you had no idea about engineers and it was pretty obvious that you have never played one or never played one seriously. You just got owned by some engineer when you played on your necro, then came to the forum and whine.
You are not the best engineer player nor one of the best in any top pvp team. It’s pretty laughable that someone makes a thread like this saying “I am a class A player, and I think my class should be nerfed because I am too OP and I own everyone because of ONE trait”. This pretty much equal to “I play class B and I got own by another class called A, so they have to be nerfed because I don’t want to improve myself.”
So this is really pointless already, stop posting and pretending that you play engineer. You don’t even know what that trait has been before patch, so clearly you don’t play engineer. Your suggestion is meaningless.
Automated Response is a really good trait. To be honest, it’s too good.
Automated Response grants the Engineer 100% duration reduction to all conditions as long as they remain at 25% health. For a player that is purely focused on applying conditions, this is like an I win button. I cannot tell you how many times I have survived the onslaught of a Necro just because this trait kicked in at 25% health. And I feel it gives the Engi an unfair advantage for it to not have a duration and cooldown.
So this is my suggestion, change Automated Response to “Cure 2 conditions and become Immune to all conditons for 5s” on a 60s cooldown or “Activate Cleansing Burst when you have more than 2 unique conditions on you. (with water field)” on a 30s cooldown. Because right now, good engies can outlast almost any condi spec just because of this trait.
Clearly you have never played engineer or hardly played it seriously before patch, since you don’t even know it’s been nerfed just now which means it has been better before the patch(immune to condition when at/below 25%).
For me its pretty obvious that you have been playing something else before patch. After patch you switched to necro since they got buffed alot. You were facerolling your keyboard when playing necro after patch until you encountered an engineer who ran this trait. Suddenly you found out that you couldn’t faceroll anymore against him/her and eventually got owned. Then you came to the forum and started to whine because you found out that there was a trait called “Automated Response”. Suddenly you decided that instead of improving your own skill in playing necromancer, this trait cannot exist or has to be changed.
Nice story making bro, but cool story won’t make you a better player, so I’d like to say “better luck next time” .