Guild Wars 2

Power/Vit/Tough all the way!

Stasis.5630:

I found the bomb kit makes you more of a target and the big red circles seem to scare/put off smaler groups of inv compared to tankcat. Im the main control/distraction of our guild squad running distraction for our cannon guild dps and it works great. What food do you guys/girls use? I can never decide over the -40% condition or power/vit

I am using -40% condition now (used to run with remove condition on heal food earlier) since condition removal is the one thing that build really lacks!

Really nice to hear all that positive feedback and see people running similar builds!

This is something that’s really been bugging me as well and I’m glad its being brought up again.

I kinda felt bad for even bothering about this purely cosmetic issue when the devs are more urgently needed elsewhere when it comes to the engineer…
But then I gave it a second thought. GW2 is a game in which “high end rewards” are all about the appearance of our character;

legendaries with fancy animations and armor sets that aren’t showing off a certain spec but instead are being transmuted so every player can create that unique look, completely unrelated to the stats he is using. Obviously dyes are a big thing as well.

I second the idea of being able to dye kits.
I like my backpacks and I’d feel naked running without them but at the current state I feel forced into choosing mud-colors or that very specifc red to make them go with my kits.

Med kit is the most forgiving backpack since the colors are a bit more neutral. But it’s HUGE and as a medium-sized female human, I don’t get to see any of my armor anyway.

It’s healing power only and it doesnt scale well so at about 1400 healing you will still only do ~300 bomb heals as opposed to 1xx with 0 healing power.

I really appreciate your highly constructive reply!
Maybe if more people shared your eye-opening attitude, the few remaining persistent engineers who still seemed to find joy in that hopeless profession (against all odds) will finally realize they were only deceiving themselves.

Ewww.

This thread is about sharing a build that, within the engineer’s contraints (yes, certain aspects of this class need some GOOD lovin’ and that day may never come) provides the most enjoyable playstyle for me. Chances are, it might do the trick for others, too.
You not being one of them fills me with consternation.

For your own sake, I hope you went back to playing canasta.

Deniara, was just about to say “hey! we DID end up in the same matchup now” and then I see you signature
I’ve been cheating on my engi for a couple of days now (have been playing Mesmer a bit) but reading all those replies again makes me want to go back to engi NOW!

Thanks a lot, I was already busy browsing your builds

Could something similar to the shatter cat heavy (with some trait adjustments I guess) also work with Cond/Power/Vit gear?
Is there some killer argument to choose prec over vit?
Or is it that you feel toughness is more useful opposed to vit?

Cheers & thanks already!

TLDR added :p I support laziness both for myself and others!

Sorry for probably creating the 100000th thread asking for build advice :/

I have a lvl 80 mesmer I quickly leveled up when this game first came out. I have never done any sort of WvW with it and I got to lvl 80 in a very lazy way by pretty much relying on Greatsword only. (I know, that’s painful for any true mesmer)

Lately I’ve been getting a little bit tired of my engineer and I decided to give my mesmer a second chance.

And here I am now, completely lost! I’ve browsed through the stickied build list and checked all those shattercat variations but I am having a hard time determining which builds actualy fulfill my needs xD

In a perfect world my dream mesmer would be able to:

• Have high survivability and have good mobility
• Making use of some sneaky tactics involving stealth
• Offer the best possible group support and utility (like portals, feedback, aoe confusion and blind, aoe retaliation and reflect blablub)

I do not really care about high burst or sustained power based dmg, I wouldnt mind for some confusion stacking together with cond dmg though.

I also don’t mind starting out with a build that comes with a high skill cap in itself.
I might be a mesmer noob but I think I have pretty much “mastered” the engi class when it comes to pushing kittenloads of buttons, CD management and making best use of combos and trait synergy.

ANY input and links to build that match this description would be highly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

TLDR
Someone please link me a tried and trusted WvW build focussed on survivability and group support & utility

We want YOU!
’nuf said!

Nuzt.7894:

Clearly, its the Engineer.

^ Exactly what I wanted to post, but I should have known someone else will always be quicker in praising the allmighty engi :]

wait.
xilius, you managed to get your original post deleted while keeping the thread? xD
or what is this sorcery!? is it now my forums that are BUGGED!?

anyway, YOU GO GIRL RoF!

Never noticed any [BZRK] tag either, we’ll be looking out for that tag and if we find it watch their actions but I for one haven’t experienced hacking or anything like that happening on RoF.
So I would ask you to not drag other guilds into this.
We support fair play like you guys do and I for one would never generalize by saying “im disliking server x and x even more because I THINK i have seen some dude from some random guild appear in a tower without any walls or gates being damaged”

Anyway, had some fun nights [edit: fights.. freudian slip!?] with RoS and UW last night, guess this is gonna be a tough match

Welcome to the guys from FOT again!
Last night already showed that u will be a great asset to our wvw force
Recruitment is still up and running, join this awesome server before it’s too late!

Ring of Fire
Currently tier 8

We have one major wvw alliance, consisting of 12 guilds.
All those guilds have been on Ring of Fire since the very beginning.
Ring of Fire has never been the victim of mass transfers, so we are one of the few servers with a very stable community.

The Ring Of Fire’s Alliance currently consists of:

• I C O N I C [ICON]
• Forgotten Hopes [FH]
• Pain Intended [PI]
• Qui Morituri Te Salutant [MoRs]
• The Dark Sunrise [XIII]
• Playing A Game [TaG]
• Furious Rising [FR]
• Society of Sunhater [SOSH]
• Flying Pink Unicorn [PWNY]
• Night Pact [NP]
• Hunters of Illusion [HxH]
• Fractured Mind [IMP]

Our coverage is best during late prime time (~ 9 pm – 2 am), but any time frame is welcome really.

Ring of Fire’s goal is to gain ranks, obviously, but we want to do that step by step by improving our coordination and getting more PvE and PvP players involved.
We do not want to become a server that steamrolls everything simply due to a sheer numbers advantage.

So we seek mid-sized guilds interested in making Ring of Fire their permanent home and joining ou forces to have meaningful and fun fights and hum our national anthem with us on TS.

And it burns, burns, burns… the Ring of Fire!

Please check our official recruitment thread here for detailed information:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Ring-of-Fire-Alliance-Recruitment/first#post1262629

I hope I managed to speak for the whole Ring of Fire community, if you have anything to add please send me a PM and I’ll edit my post accordingly!

Doing some testing with Rocket Boots atm!
If this skill only worked properly…
Imagine laying down a smoke bomb and then shooting yourself into the zerg while stealthed (or out of it, if the need should arise).
How much better can it get, really?

:D
Exchange the PvE by PvP and we got ourselves another recipe!

We know where to put those trebs and park those golems, you know how to stomp those hordes of underworld rangers with their leopards most efficiently!

Sounds like a love marriage to me <3

To anyone currently ON Ring of Fire sharing the feelings of the original poster:

Please check out https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Ring-of-Fire-Alliance-Recruitment/first#post1275697

It is sad to see some of the more casual wvw players don’t see we actually HAVE a very loyal alliance going on!
Also, that alliance isnt some closed elitist group or whatever, we actually encourage everyone to join our shared TS! That includes individuals feeling a little bit lost with Gunnars dominating. (I can also highly recommend joining a WvW orientated guild on our server)
I can see how that can be a little bit frustrating, but its even more frustrating if you don’t know there is actually a group of us doing organized and often successful attacks on gunnars keeps
Getting involved in the alliance will make it easier for you to take part in the victories we still have!

Well put, Hule.
That doesn’t mean we aren’t competitive about wvw though!
We won’t ever let Ring of Fire become some “unofficial PVE server” – quite the opposite actually

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Build-Video-Diving-Into-Zergs/first#post1251299

A tankcat variation including bombs!

I would like to emphasize and add some reasons to choose Ring of Fire over a different server!

Unlike most other servers, Ring of Fire has never been the “victim” of mass transfers.
All the wvw guilds part of the alliance have been here since the beginning and sticked with RoF through the bad and the good times. (aww, cheesy mode)

We have seen our server both gain and loose in ranks and were able to take pride in every victory since it was always our achievement alone and often against the odds!

We haven’t jumped on the mass recruitment train in the past, because we wanted to keep our community stable but with free transfers being shut down soon, I guess its time to get some addition to the family.

We still have all the space a guild would need to actually make a difference, while offering the already mentioned stable community to back you up!

….

We are also the ONE server that comes with a natural anthem

And it burns, burns, burns… the Ring of Fire

…

and a cheer squad.

If you should really decide to leave, you will be missed for sure!

I grew quite fond of many of you guys and I still miss the good times (at least they were for me) when some of the most awesome folks on RoF were running under the same guild flag.

I hope you choose whatever server is best for you, whether its RoF or some other place!
Ring of Fire would not be quite the same without you guys but either way, we will be holding the fort as best as we can! <3

You will see mist form activate at about 3:22 (indicated by a buff icon), I’d say its about 3 secs.

And thanks for the name suggestion (I like it!) and the positive feedback!
I might be starting to work on a video running the same build in a more organized group scenario with my guild. And maybe instead of having all those very short example sequences a few longer fights.

Fun Fact: I once went to the mists to test a “Dive Grenadier”, full glass cannon and with kit refinement and Explosive Descent for triply barrage
I’d jump off some cliff and into the golems, trying to trigger all barrages at once.
I was a bit disappointed back then as I realized at least one of those barrages (not sure if it was kit refinement or falling dmg one) was only about half as strong.

But still, imagine doing that in wvw where u have another tanky engi luring a group to a cliff, immobilizing them and then a second engi is waiting on top of that cliff ready to jump down, where both engis will unload all the burst they have
Super situational but I guess that could be fun as well xD

Desterion.6407:

If I had an set of tough gear I’d use it for bombing runs but i’m all rampagers so i’m stuck with a flamethrower. Not the same survivability but nothing scares zerglings more than fire in the face.

Hah, one should never underestimate the psychological effects of animations like that one from flamethrower. I actually noticed the same holds true for grenades.
I tried a full healing build once in wvw and besides for some very low cond dmg I really wasnt an actual threat.
But I realized people on walls would still back off and be busy evading once I start throwing my medriocre nades at them. The power of the red circle!

About the mango pies, I have used them before when trying the original tankcat. I had more cond removal due to HGH and didn’t need the cond removal food that desperately.
But without HGH (and enough elixirs to make it worthwhile) I feel like I don’t really have a choice when it comes to food…

Speaking of cond removal:
I’ve watched my video again paying close attention to how often I crit and its actually not THAT bad, at least at the beginning of a fight after I dropped my the stimulant.
So the Sigil of Generosity might be an option for additional cond removal.

Deniara Devious.3948:

Great video! Very nice commentary and game-play. Engineer is the most rare profession in WvWvW and high level pve. So it is great to see the underdog used effectively. I also use engineer in WvWvW against enemy zergs in sort of kamikaze hit & run style, but I use grenades. They do less damage, but offer more distance and are great at siege (attacking enemy walls or defending the walls).

In the video I didn’t see your enemies using much snares (immobilize, cripple, chill, pull, stun). My WvWvW experience comes from the top euro tiers, where the enemy sadly outnumbers us in so huge amounts that our server Blacktide has been dropping like stone. We always have the (useless) outmanned buff. Our side might have 3 to 10 people and they have 20 to 50. There enemy teams often use multiple snares against you. Yes, one stun break, block or elixir S won’t be enough.

I used to run a very similar grenade tactic earlier!
Grenades really are awesome for destroying siege and getting people off a wall.
I still miss them when we are PVDooring, since Im pretty much useless there (With this build I’ll usually just stand there like an idiot try find someone (preferably a commander) and pull him off the wall)

Or I’ll be scouting and try to catch the enemy zerg on their way to us and give our own zerg some time.

Ring of Fire is low tier but we still face some pretty organized guilds that can give this build a harder time than shown in the video. (It was mostly PUGs against PUGs for now)
Too much CC can definitely become a problem. Not so much in stationary fights but when kiting. But like you said, even if u die at some point, u kept them busy for much longer than u should be able too

Protection Injection (Protection on CC) is probably a better trait choice in fights against CC heavy classes.

Thanks for the kind words and feedback already!

JackWest.8974:

Great vid! I was using something pretty similar some time ago, great fun
Also, how do you like automated response? Never tried it for too long since it doesn’t remove condition applied before reaching 25% health

The last trait in the elixir line is the one I’ve definitely exchanged most often!
I decided to run with automated response, since conditions are really the only thing I gotta worry about and watch constantly…
The problem with automated response is that it apparently has an unlisted CD of about 60 seconds and that u have no way of telling how much it really saves your kitten
I WISH this trait would give me a buff icon whenever activated :/

Rezzet.3614:

how much health do you steal with the runes i still think scholar would be most beneficial or something like that.

I use thoses runes primarily for the (6) effect, the mist form on 10% health. I haven’t really paid attention to the life steal yet (have been using runes of grenth until a few days ago, some parts of the video are still with those runes).
I could imagine the life steal not really cutting it since I’m not attacking stuff 24/7 but am spending the same amount time running around, dodging and blocking so I guess I often gain a life steal but then dont use it before the effect wears off.
I’ll pay attention to the amount I steal from now on!

I’ve heard some ppl say mist form from those runes sucks but it really has saved me multiple times already. It only works when you have both toughness and vit, though. If you are only a little bit too squishy someone might take your last 10% of health from you without the runes being able to trigger.

Sadly there one very annoying issue with the mist form, using Elixir S just a millisecond too early (= when mist form is still up) will cancel Elixir S once the mist form wears off.

Runes of Scholar isn’t really something I’d consider since my crit chance is pretty much non existent outside of fury.
I’m never above 90% health either xD They would be great for a grenade build, though.
I personally prefer runes that provide some utility! Like the grenth runes already mentioned, once I get tired of Vampirism, Ill go back to those.
They give additional cond dmg, too which really benefits this build.
(Dear Devs, please give us Cond/Vit/Tough gear, I’d choose that over power any day!)

Cempa.5619:

Could you list the music?

:D
Bee Gees – Stayin’ Alive (obviously xD)
Lemaitre – Time to Realize

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeD5yRL2i3Q&feature=youtu.be
(watch in HD)

First things first…

This is a WvW Build!

This build is not about seeing big numbers popping up everywhere you go.

Like the tankcat build its purpose is to distract and annoy the kitten out of the enemy. You will still be able to kite like a pro and keep a bunch of enemies with tunnel vision chasing you across the map.

But unlike the tankcat build you will want to spend most of your time in the middle of the enemy zerg (though you could do that with the original tankcat, its just not as much fun without the bombkit).
Picking up the bombkit does not only give u the almighty Big Ol’ Bomb, you will gain another source of confusion, immobilize and two wonderful combo fields.

When “diving into the zerg” you’ll have the enemy think:
“awww so cute, that little broken profession engi going all suicidal <3” …
They will see your health drop and keep focussing on you as an easy kill. What they DON’T know is that you still have 1 block and 3 invulns off cooldown and are about to blow them up within the next second.

They will mistake you for a thief, when you use your smoke bomb to get some area stealth going or when u get immobilized in the middle of their zerg.
They will mistake you for an ele when you suddenly become mist from your runes of vampirism.

Sounds like fun? As a fellow and proud engineer I am telling you – It really is.
Check out the video and leave feedback & suggestions!
I’ve been trying out different traits, runes and sigils myself so if u have any other favorites, let me know!

Please keep in mind this is my very first video and I don’t always play to perfection. I am not here to prove you otherwise.

I also failed to come up with a fitting name for this build, any ideas are welcome.
(I always feel like a terrorist when running this build, but I thought some people might be offended by that name, meh :S)

Cheers <3

Edit: Grah, just a few minutes after I posted this being all nervous about what the engi community will think of this build & video, I realized a PvP video with a VERY similar setup has been released here
I guess that makes this post more of a playstyle suggestion. At least this shows the setup is indeed awesome enough to be used by multiple people already!

I can’t be the only one asking myself why on earth that repair guy has got to stand on that upper floor. I usually don’t even bother repairing when respawing at SM.

Simple solution: Please place him on the floor where the waypoint is.

Edit: While we are at it, it’s well possible there are threads for this already. But since the search function only allows to search for words appearing in a thread but not for the TITLE itself, I couldn’t be bothered which doing my research on this first. sorry!

I am running a very similar build, the only changes being 6 runes of grenth (chill!), superior sigil of hydromancy (more chill!), rifle with the protection on crit trait except for.. whatever trait decreases shield recharge, berserker accessories and half power/prec/tough instead of full invaders.

The runes of grenth are possibly the cheapest superior ones around (don’t let this trick you into thinking they must be complete kitten then!) so they are easy to try.
Just yesterday I got asked by a fellow engineer (!!!) what that freeze animation is that’s giving me swiftness and vigor… lovely!
The runes give cond dmg though which is probably not the best stat for me running rifle but well..

What I REALLY wanna say is that I have an innocent crush on the original medicat for being so entertaining, if only gw2 was the right place to get girls, u’d have them all lined up :p

healing power 1325, each bomb was 299!
didn’t expect it to be THAT pathetic. xD

Edit: 1425: 309

I spent tons of gold yesterday to buy full apothecary exotic (only thing I still need are good trinkets) and will hopefully be ready to fully test it in wvw oday

I will run with pistol/shield though (you are relying on cond dmg → pistol, and shield is better control in zergs and that’s where I wanna turn the tide) and healing bombs (also some good ones for cond dmg here) instead of grenades.
then elixir gun together with kit refinement for an additional super elixir,
runes of altruism for might share with med kit aand prolly elixir R or S, will see about that.

I can post my full build once Im done testing and then I will hopefully also be able to say that it’s viable

Sure, it’s glass cannon and no real build option for me personally BUT I wanna thank you for the video as it feels kittening good seeing those numbers again in those tough times xD
I also really enjoyed the music, especially the first song!

Greeting from a fellow engineer from RoF and the alliance If u ever feel like doing some nerd-theorycrafting on engineer, whisper me ingame after tuesday!

First of all, looking at the utilities I was sure you were using a static discharge build! I don’t see you using that trait though, speedy kits instead – or is that something you swap when entering a fight?
Most of your utilities have low CD toolbelt skills which with Static Discharge could really improve your DPS!

Looking at your defensive utilities/traits/gear:
Apart from the thoughness/vit gear you seem to be going almost full DPS.
Your only condition removal comes from med kit 4 which from personal experience is too little. You might wanna consider using a sigil or purity, getting the trait that removes conditions on elixir use (20 alchemy), using elixir H (don’t have too much experience with that myself) or using the elixir gun for 5 – As you can see u have quite a few options there.
I can highly recommend you the alchemy trait line for awesome defense options, such as Elixir S when at 25% health (an awesome utility too since both the elixir itself as also the toolbelt help you in getting away or safely stomping enemies)

Toolbelt 4 provides a couple of seconds of block which can also help a lot when things get nasty for you! In case you are not using that on a regular basis already, you should – Those seconds might be just what you need to let some other skill go off cooldown so u can re-enter battle and turn the tide!

Rifle has some defensive options as 2 and 4 but sadly both only work against single targets and won’t help you alot when encountering more than one enemy. The 4 skill will even be contraproductive since you will also be laying on the ground – time for your enemies’ fellas to finish you.

Personally I prefer pistol/shield over rifle, mainly for it’s defensive options. Pistol 3 blinds and confuses targets and Shield 1 & 2 are both awesome for keeping people off you, saving allies by interrupting enemies’ stomps and so on! So you might wanna try those out (perhaps get some rares first before investing in exotics)

I’ll try to think of more stuff to add but I guess by the time I post this you already have several other comments covering all I said so far xD

Since you were also asking for some build ideas:
Here is the one I use for wvw atm.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcIQJAqel0piYnuSfF17IyoCdmoHPGlNZfe8WPIEC;TgAqgM5IyxqjLIpOjMmiA

I didn’t add armor since I use a weird combination of berserker accessories, and power/prec/cond/vit/tough more or less equally distributed on the rest of the gear
(some invaders, some vatlaaws)

I feel far from squishy with this build, while still having the ability to dish out some decent dmg using both condition dmg and direct dmg from the pistol and grenades!

I’m not good at crunching numbers either but since the patch I am running a p/s (+ grenades) might stacking build with berserkers accessories and mixed vatlaaw’s (prec, cd, tough) and invaders (power, vit, tough) gear.
The stats kinda “happened” and weren’t something I planned, before I was always trying to focus on three stats only. But you don’t get any bonus for using full sets anyway and my weird stat combination actually turned out to be pretty good, especially since might adds both power and condition damage!

I would LOVE to see someone trying to do the maths for this and kinda find the ideal stat combination for such a build!

Brilliant video (both the actual fighting and the awesome sequences at the beginning and the end), too bad I wasn’t there
Gotta love RoF!
Cheers, NY

Haha, sadly it seems like they fought out most of their battles on forums, they still both gave us a hard time in wvw so I don’t see us profiting from that really :/
Either way, I am proud of RoF (and our ICON members ofc :p) for keeping up the fight for second place, looks like we can win this race against gunnar’s and stay in our current tier

I would like to speak on behalf of RoF.

We have had some good fights against you in the past and I believe there have already been talks going on between some of our leaders and you guys

It is true that ICON, the server’s biggest wvw guild at that time (and I believe it still holds that place) suffered from a member loss before the last reset.

However, the members that have left formed a new guild (Night Pact) and remained loyal to RoF so we are still working together. Personally I am confident we can quickly overcome this little “drama”, in the end we all care more about RoF than some interpersonal difficerences so in the heat of the battle those are successfully pushed aside already.
We are not the only two wvw guilds on RoF though, we have some great smaller-sized guilds with very capable commanders that also share out TS alliance server.

I am confident I am speaking for all of Ring of Fire when I say that you would be very welcome here, ESPECIALLY after those few issues we recently had.
Our fighting spirit has remained the same and maybe even been strengthed by all of this. Now all it takes for RoF to finally live up to its potential is some like-minded people (YOU!) who are also willing to make server wide communication better and help us with some numbers as the tactics and morals are already there

Feel free to contact me ingame as well!

Dear Jon Peters,
you just made my day!

It will definitely get better, since engineer starts out with fewer skills due to limited weapon choice and no weapon swap. But as you level up you will unlock new kits and other useful utilities that will make life a lot easier for you!

at level 80, engineer is far from squishy.
even with full glass cannon gear (which I personally do not recommend though) you can get yourself a decent amount of survivability just from certain utilities, traits and right usage of your CC skills)

I would suggest you get Elixir S as soon as possible, both the toolbelt and the elixir itself serve as a “oh snap, I need to get away” skill, and there is also an early available trait in the alchemy line that triggers an Elixir S once you fall below 25% health.

When soloing and fighting single mobs, I suggest you start out by using the rifle to keep the enemy off you with net shot and overcharged shot.

When fighting multiple mobs, grenades come in handy and the chill and blind grenade help you to either slow mobs down and thereby keeping them at a distance or make them all miss their next attack, giving you some space to breath.

You can use grenades to effectively kill a larger group of PVE mobs by changing your view to uhm.. well view them from the top, use the right-click-mouse while pressing W or having Autorun on to run around them in circles and keep throwing grenades at them.
(Bit difficult to explain but easy to execute once you get it right, was an eye-opening discovery for me in my early levels as an engineer!)

I personally tried Fast-ground targeting but felt like its more valuable to actually know where you are hitting (sometimes the landscape can play you for a fool and it takes you a couple of seconds before you realize u arent actually hitting that mob but instead the small hill in front of it)

Hope this was a little bit useful, I can HIGHLY recommend giving engineer some time…
Engi was my first character but stopped leveling her at level 20, then switched to mesmer and levelled that one up to 80.
Only to come back to engineer, get her to 80 as well and since then I have never looked back!

As a proud ICON member I can sign everything said (and shown) in this video!
(except for the “Que’s”, maybe :p we don’t have queues though)
That guild finally managed to make WvW fun to me and turned me into a loyal RoF-citizen!

Finally someone writing out what I have been thinking about for quite a while now!
I would probably change rifle to pistol shield though, mainly since you get another blast finisher for your wonderful combos from shield #1

Mhm.. Im really tempted to try this out now
If you happen to test this build first, please let me know how it worked out for you!

allways.9270:

The counter-attack? Well .. that one was nice as well .. but the primary defence of Garrison

… was some of the best fun I had in wvw lately thanks to UW for that long, at times thrilling fight, I was proud and at the same time a little bit disappointed when it ended

^ same trait allocation, same strategy.
(and almost same account name! magical.)

Occured in wvw:
If you give yourself stability from using Toss Elixir S you are then unable to hop on flame rams (haven’t tried that with other forms of siege yet, also I do not know whether other professions experience the same when they received stability from an engi).
A message saying “You can’t use this object while in transformation” pops up.
I could imagine this issue somehow resulting from the Elixir X fix (stability now ends when leaving the transformation)