Guild Wars 2

There’s a female Charr thief from guild “Order of Avacyn [Hope]” that seems to be getting into towers without taking down a gate or a wall. I saw her first inside SE tower in BPBL and gave her the benefit of the doubt that she’s been hiding since it flipped (although unlikely since the tower was fully upgraded). About 10 minutes later, however, I found her in NE tower so it is likely that she wall jumped inside.

I did not get to report as I didn’t really get a chance to right click her name (her being a thief and keep disappearing), but it would be appreciate if someone from AR can identify her and ask her to stop doing it since it’s an exploit.

I have screenshots, but I don’t feel it’s necessary to upload.

Morningstar.6208:

Gremlin.1096:

What happened to WäR saying that they would like to keep things in good terms with BP and try to focus on DR this week? I see a fair number of WäR in BPBL, and I am torn between wanting to fight them and leaving them alone.

I can’t believe some folks still trying to double team Devona. Play to win. BP is the only server trying to contact and make deals with me personally and only server I had to block so many people. You guys play too much politics instead of fighting.

Devona is mad at BP because last week they double teamed Devona even when we weren’t in first place and killed this match up which could have been great. This double teaming issue caused some bandwagoners to leave Devona but our core players are still here and mad at BP for their politics.

You misunderstood me. I’m NOT trying to make deals between the two servers – I am simply stating that I do not wish to fight WäR (and the feeling may be mutual). And this is not because I or any of the BP players are afraid of them – it’s because we’ve played together for so long it’s difficult facing off against them. Heck, I can identify most of the WäR members by their face/armor/weapon skin they have, and it’s just… difficult to attack them.

Rennoko.5731:

It amazes me how much bad blood has gone down on these forums over a single guild shift, and not even a large guild at that. WäR was not a massive powerhouse guild with 300 people, and had just recently started to get the numbers in guild to fill up a handful of parties in WvW. The real heavily lifting in WäR was done by the numerous commanders in guild willing to play 8-12+ hours per day, commanding and coordinating when no one else was around. The player base on BP is suffering because they stopping moving up tiers, much the same that happens to other rising star servers.

You can only ask commanders to make those kinds of sacrifices if others are willing to do the same, and quite frankly the server as a whole wasn’t willing to do that. I can’t imagine why you would blame them for moving over to a server where they have the numbers of commanders and committment to match what the WäR commanders were putting in on a weekly basis for BP.

All internet anger aside, the shift happening between matchups where BP would still be against Maguma was likely fuel to this fire, but I can guarantee this change for WäR had nothing to do with jumping over to a winning server in the weekly matchup. I don’t speak for anyone else in WäR other than myself and I happen to still be taking some time off, but it makes me sad to hear all this insanity on the forums, from people who were so cordial just a few weeks ago.

Thank you for your well thought out and well written response.

WäR probably had the highest concentration of commanders to member ratio of any guilds in BP. Most of the regular or WvW dedicated members of the server joined WäR in the past month and it’s saddens me that those recent recruits left with WäR.

I have also done my fair share of WvW dedication, and even with WäR on the server, BP had troubles due to lack of 24/7 coverage, both in terms of commanders and in terms of overall players. With their departure, it puts even more pressure and stress on those who remains and it’s has made the existing problem worse, not better.

As you’ve put, I certainly believe that WäR did not simply switch sides to win – I know that they are not the type simply looking for victory and glory. It is mildly upsetting that they happened to transfer to the server that we are facing off against, similar to what krew did. However, what upsets me the most is that we (as in both WäR and BP in general) didn’t get to sit down and make any serious attempts to fix any of the dissatisfaction WäR had with BP. Krew and Hadann’s issues with the rest of BP was a lot deeper and he stuck out with BP for a much longer time, trying to make changes and improvements.

I usually don’t post on the forums, but I feel like my heart may implode if I don’t express anything.

To introduce myself, I usually play WvW on my guardian by the name Sylphia Zephyr[MKF] from Borlis Pass. Although I don’t put in as many hours as some commanders do, I regularly play and command at times. To most of you, I may look like some random pug commander from a small guild, but I take pride and joy in doing what I do with my small group of friends.

First thing I want to say is, WäR leaving the server has damaged BP more than what they would have thought it would. It’s not just the fighting power that we lost, but they’ve managed to severely demoralize the commanding ranks. This is what happens when one of the best of us defects to a server we are facing off against. What happened to WäR saying that they would like to keep things in good terms with BP and try to focus on DR this week? I see a fair number of WäR in BPBL, and I am torn between wanting to fight them and leaving them alone.

And now up to my second point – what is up with this flame on the forums. It is as if WäR is intentionally trying to make BP look bad. Are you trying to justify your departure…? Technically, WAR did start this particular flame, but from what I remember, WäR may have started the feud with WAR weeks/months back by making comparison between one and another on the forums.

Thirdly, we’ve been blue ever since we came into tier 5. We’ve never gotten 1st place in a match up since, but I feel that we were holding up our own against T4 servers that were getting knocked down. The match ups against DB, EB, and MG has been eye-opening, and I have been eager to absorb and learn as much as we can from the match ups. Even without WäR, I am certain that we can hold our own and stay in tier 5 if we put our kittens together and actually start fighting instead of staying demoralized.

Lastly, every server has its own drama and unique community. We are trying hard to get a paradigm change in leadership and organization – except no one ever listens to me or my ideas but that’s probably because I have no voice. If there is a problem, stay and fix it. Be the change you wish to see, please!

I’ve been locked out of a /say, /map, and /team as a commander for at least 7 minutes to upwards 9 minutes – I had to restart the client to get rid of the error. Not everyone on the map uses VoIP, and although I admit that I am a very fast typer, locking a commander out for so long was unacceptable.

What is the exact algorithm for determining spam? Does the act of typing to see if I’m not suppressed count toward the spam message count? Someone pointed out that it might have been what I said too: “pull out from 2m buffed supervisor.”

Skapocalypse.5236:

BP can’t let DBs win over you hold you down like it did to Darkhaven or you’ll slide right back down with us to the lower tiers. Its hard to see how you guys never got your own garrison back already.

Oh yea, we’ll come right back. We just had a slow start on the first day of reset because we had a bunch of people hiding in bunkers preparing for the 12/21/12 apocalypse. Now that we’re done with that, expect BP fighting hard.

@ Kodiack

I agree with you in that us BP facing off against DB and DH will be a true test of our improvements. While you pointed out that we may have had easier fights that helped us move up, I strongly feel that we are not the same server months back when we were crushed by EB. We’ll just have to see how it goes.

In my opinion, AR was the toughest opponent we’ve faced in the recent matches. There certainly is a strong sense of rivalry, competitiveness, and borderline hatred between us, but this may have helped both of us improve and push ourselves to the limit. If we BP are able to hold ourselves against DH and DB in the next tier, I certainly think that you AR should deserve to move up and be there too.

It may be the case that BP has more population than AR or GoM, but it is difficult to quantify by how much simply based on whether or not there is a queue or the outmanned buff. I would like to point out something else, however.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/I-transferred-from-Jade-Quarry-to-Borlis-Pass-last-week/first

I transferred to BP about a month ago with 10 of my guildmates and pointed out some of the issues that we need to resolve as a community. Comparing then and now, BP has made significant improvements in all aspects. We have a number of wonderful commanders who would rally and encourage players, while the players have picked up a lot of initiative to do WvW activities on their own, rather than simply following the blue icon. It is a community effort as a whole, and please do not disregard the hard work that we’ve put.

It’s been a very fun and exciting week. Looking at match-up history, we’ve been in the same bracket for 4 weeks, and all of the match ups were very close compared to how it is in other tiers.

Oct 27- Nov 02: 212k vs. 182k vs. 219k
Nov 03 – Nov 9: 245k vs. 182k vs. 183k
Nov 10 – Nov 16: 189k vs. 225k vs. 174k
Nov 17 – Nov 23: 178k vs. 156k vs. 143k (so far)

A lot of bitter rivalry ensued due to these close match-ups, but it’s been fun.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Personality

Different personality produces different NPC dialog options, but it would be nice if there can be something a bit more that affects the player directly. A very small boost to character statistics might give an incentive toward customizing character’s personality.

We currently have 7 personalities: captivating, noble, diplomatic, militant, barbaric, scoundrel, and unpredictable. What if we added small boost as such below:

Captivating: +1% hp
Noble: +1% armor
Diplomatic: +1% boon duration
Militant: +1% damage
Barbaric: +1% crit chance
Scoundrel: +1% condition duration
Unpredictable: One of the above six bonus that resets daily

Main set up for WvW – 0/15/30/20/5

Oh I’m sorry – didn’t mean to put it that way. I understand the dilemma you are faced with but if everyone uses your argument, there won’t be anyone left in lower ranked servers. Have you considered moving to NA server? EU’s night time is NA’s prime time.

The change starts with you. Keep in mind that joining a higher ranked server also means no progress at all. There simply isn’t room for progress if your server already owns everything at all time.

Removing XP and loot might be the right approach – removing mobs entirely will make the landscape desolate and barren. Besides, we do need certain mobs anyway for Quaggan, Dredge, Ogre, and Hylik npc events. In addition, mobs don’t add too much the rendoring issue, from my experience.

Leaving UW will not solve anything for that server. If you wish to leave, join a low ranked server in either EU or NA as your migration may be the solution they have been looking for.

I have a slightly different opinion, Eviator.

I’ve seen BP take over BPBL (red borderlands) completely few times. However, as soon as that happens, everyone “zergs” to a different map leaving all the captured locations un-upgraded and un-defended. If anything, your argument supports the idea that we should upgrade and defend our holdings, instead of running away and giving up.

Another example – yesterday evening (server time), BP had a fair amount of holdings in EB and key locations (such as ogrewatch) was well upgraded and had well-placed sieges. However, the tower fell because not enough players were in it to man the sieges, while /team was suggesting everyone to leave the map.

Give up on day one and wait a week for a rematch? That mentality will never get red servers to become blue or green.

@ dirtyklingon, hakato, hadan:
We’ve been mainly playing in red BL and EB. We’ll look into BPA, but the main objective of my post was to get the general populace of BP informed of what the other side of coin looks like and what we need to do as a whole to get there.

@ hakato:
I remember you from last night/this morning in red BL. We took longview (tower west of garrison) and held off EB invaders. The two towers are troublesome for garrison as well-placed trebs can take down garrison walls – and this is what some of us did. Someone dropped a treb blueprint and few of us started running supplies to Arah. I ran supplies 3 times, fought off EB trying to take Arah twice, only to find our treb destroyed – either because it took too long or taken out by AoE. The ridiculous part about this story is that, the during that time, there were at least 20 BP players at longview, either taking supplies in tower and building rams inside, or standing on the wall and dancing to taunt others. The enemy at garrison managed to get their treb up before we finished ours and took down our wall. I think that if we had our treb up first, it would have checked against their counter-treb due to our height advantage. Not to mention – people were spamming /team with useless information like “lulz”.

@ pinoy:
The die has been cast and we will be stick here at BP. In the meantime, we’ll see you in WvW.

Holy cow, I didn’t realize I wrote this much.

Hello all,

My guildmates and I transferred from Jade Quarry to Borlis Pass about a week ago. Anti-bandwagonners, per se. As DAOC veterans, we play GW2 for the fun and joy of WvW, and had to unfortunately leave JQ – a server we’ve been since pre-launch – due to the ever growing queue wait time.

My experience in WvW in BP has been… rather surprising, to be honest. It’s not because we are losing or because we’ve been at the bottom of its tier bracket. It’s the vibe that I get from other players, this sense of demoralization that is most surprising (and disturbing). Winning and losing is part of game and war, but when one side loses the will to fight from staying at the bottom of its tier for several weeks – I say that’s a big problem.

By all means, I’m not sitting high on a horse and judging the new server I call home. I am probably no more skilled than you are, and probably have put in just as many hours into this game and WvW activities. I am simply pointing out some of the difference I see between the two. I obviously don’t play WvW 24/7 across all four maps simultaneously so my experiences are based on a number of isolated cases, but it still outlines the overall picture.

- Morale
JQ was blessed with many things – foremost was the willingness to fight. Even after getting annihilated (believe me, these happened a lot during HOD – Titan Alliance days), /team and /map chat would fill up with encourage words, that we almost had it, that we should rally up and get back in there, or sharp critiques on what we lacked and how we would improve. Unfortunately, what I am seeing at BP is the completely opposite. Not to mention players turning their back and running away from seemingly even fights, but more disturbingly players and even commanders suggesting other players to leave the current map as it is a lost cause. Commanders are supposed to be beacon of hope (… that is somehow bought by 100g), so please act like one.

- Organization
The number one excuse demoralized players give is that the enemies outnumber us. I don’t have the stats with me to argue with proof, but my hunch is that as we are in the same bracket, they don’t have that much big of an edge. Now, this flawed belief of being outnumbered seems to lead to a very interesting phenomenon – that we all must band together as one big group (a zerg). These zergs usually seem to go around the map clockwise or counter-clockwise, capping locations only to lose it several minutes later. These acts discourage other players from upgrading the location and running supplies because most of the players run off leaving it defenseless – why invest if it will be lost? I must say, one should never underestimate the power of a well placed defensive siege or upgraded wall/gates. I often see players who just entered the map asking where our zerg is. No, don’t look for our zerg – look to weaken enemy by taking out their supply lines, look to place siege at strategic locations, look to make npcs (Quaggans, Ogres, Dredge, Hylik) our friends. (if all these are met, yea sure, join a zerg and go on the offensive). We get potential points by holding places, not taking them.

- Communication
JQ had a TS server that most WvWers used to communicate and this was extremely helpful. At the same time, /team and /chat were always filled with on-going information for those who aren’t in TS (or for those who refused/were too shy to speak). If you spot a group of enemy, tell everyone an estimate of how many you see and in which general direction they are headed. If your location is under attack, tell everyone the gate or wall percentage so everyone gets a general idea of how long it will hold out. If your location is under attack and has a portal tell everyone the event timer count down so players can waypoint in at the right time. I very rarely see any of these information in /team or /map and lack of information is detrimental to our server’s WvW performance.

I am not trying to point out how great our old server was and how bad new one is doing (well, I actually did). I simply wish to get this message out to as many players as possible so that we can work together to overcome whatever shortcomings we have. Overcoming challenges is what makes any activity fun – ask any one from Kaineng about it, I bet they had a blast last week (and don’t say they won because they had a large influx of transfers).