I dont think people should get ascended gear for badges or karma since you would be able to buy the gear that is best suitable for your build. The drop chance as for now is extremely rare for ascended gear and even if you drop a piece it wont match your build in 90% of all cases. Additionally WvW player dont need +X agony.
So instead of letting people buy asceded gear i’d prefer one of those options:
1) Adust ascended gear in WvW areas (so it matches exotic —> percentage decrease)
2) Adust exotic gear in WvW areas (so it matches ascended --> percentage increase)
3) Let people buy completely new gear using badges / karma or whatever WITHOUT agony at all (maybe upgradable by 5000 ectos -sarcasm inclused-)
I dont think i’d be fair towards pve player if wvw player would simply be able to buy agony stuff without even doing one piece of work. And since they dont pve they wont need it anyway.
If you want the hawt gear, ya gots to pay your dues to go get it. It really isn’t much (psst…that’s why they say there isn’t a gear grind…you don’t have to kill 15k mobs in the hopes of one single drop). A couple of days max doing that icky pve and then you can go pew-pew instead of QQ.
Have you looked at what it takes to get this stuff (what is currently known at least)?
The back slot alone:
250 Teir 6 fine crafting material
1 Vial of Condensed Mists Essence
50 Globs of Ectoplasm
24 skill points
+to infuse
Base back slot item
Glob of Coagulated Mists Essence
250 Globs of Ectoplasm
Gift of Ascension
That’s quite a bit more than “a couple days max”
Would you please stop making a big fuss over 3 items that grant you 1% more stats and are hard to get (except for 1 which everyone should be able to afford – back).
By now these items got more stats than the exotics (rings about 10% per item and back 7,4% – compare to exotic not rare!!!!) but the rings are hard to get.
As stated before you guys are the WvW-Player with such great amount of experience and skill that i cant believe a PvE-Player would be able to beat you using a gear that got 1% more stats. (keep the sarcasm if you can find it)
For the qoute above – why the **** would you want to have the ringes infused using 250 ecto etc? Its just of use for the dungeon … so why even bother.
I dont like the gear upgrade btw. aswell being a gw1 player since beta but please stay reasonable and stop that QQ. Have some faith with that with the next set of ascended items you guys wont be left out and I could bet 50G PvE-Player will complain because you also get +5 agony on the items and are even allowed to choose stats by simply buying them from a merchant.
Well PvE players already have couple pieces and we don’t even have change get those items yet.
Most of them got full ascended gear including armor and weapons!
This discussion is atm about 60 statpoints until now which some hardcore pve player MAY already have (if they were lucky enough) and who wont play wvw since they are pve player.
Since you got like 6500 statpoints in total its about 1% some1 might have. And since you guys are the hardcore wvw player you should be able to beat them within seconds … these bad bad pve player who are ruining your wvw gameplay.
I dont get it – do you really think it would be fair to give those items away for 500 badges of a total set? (Yes I know just one suggested it)
In my opinion they should increase exotic or decrease ascended gear for WvW. I really dont want you guys to have those items for badges or at least for such a small amount. Fair would be a trade of at least 500 badges per item (consideringe the price for exotic gear – range 240 to 390 badges).
In case they can be bought:
Plus if you get them for badges i dont want you guys to have an agony slot in. Since you bought them you are able to choose the stats. You spent almost as much time to aquire them but you were given the choice to select. And most important: Since you just play WvW you wont need the agony.
Lol, the gear will be mandatory. learn some math. 20%+ improvements to stats without the infusions. Not trivial.
Not sure where you’re getting 20%, even with the upgraded infusions, it isn’t nearly that much. You might want to check your math, sounds like you haven’t even looked at the ascended gear, let alone owned any.
Yes I have. add up the stats and divide one set’s by another. others have don’t the math too, not just me. in some cases the improvements are over 50% better.
Please be so kind and enlight me with some your your math examples. Doesnt matter how hard i try but the max. is like 10% increase for me …
Why do you assume all items will only have a 15 statpoint increase? It’s much more realistic to assume that every ascended item will increase based a certain percentage. This is how it’s done between every gear tier available (blue -> green -> yellow etc.) Since other gear items like weapons, armor and amulets give more statpoints the increase in stat will also be bigger. You also forgot that ascended weapons will do (alot) more damage per hit than exotic weapons. An ascended Greatsword for example will do 1077 – 1191 damage per hit while an exotic one only does 995- 1100 damage.
Since I am at work I did not do a lot of research about unknown stuff like increased damage (never heared or read about on any official page).
Was just trying to figure out where those numbers came from.
BUT I dont want WvW-only-Player to get the new gear. I got no problem if they scale ascended items down or exotic up for WvW but its not right to give someone who was never in the dugeon the set. Probably the best solution would be to create a new set which got nothing to do with agony but got the same stats like ascended and sell it for 500-1000 badges e.a. .
I dont think everyone will have ascended gear anytime soon and its just about a few stat point better than excotic. So i guess you wont be able to recognize any big difference.
Anyway, I did really enjoy the fact in GW1 that there was an absolute maximum and you could create pvp chars at maximum stats within a few seconds. Its a bit sad they did not implement this for GW2 (yes i know you can do it for spvp).
Speaking of sad things: Where are my beloved GvG’s? Isnt this game called Guild Wars? Lacking the name’s content aint fun at all -.-
The difference between exotic and ascended gear isn’t small at all. People have calculated how much your damage improves by wearing ascended gear over exotic gear. With just the three pieces you will do 6% more damage. That is not minor. It gets even worse when more ascended gear gets added so you can get a full set. Assuming all ascended gear offers a similar stat increase as the rings did you will do 36% (!) more damage than with exotic gear. That makes this a must have.
Its +15 stats (5 each) per item. So thats a total by now of 6 × 15 = 90 Stats (30 each) IF you are lucky enough to even get one ring and IF that one got the stats you need (want). I dont see how that is supposed to be 6% damage -.-
Basically thats a lot of IF’s … I am lvl 14 in this dungeon and saw just once some1 get a ring (magic find stats included). The time you spend there to even get the chance to drop would equal like 200k karma you could get in WvW.
I get it now … the 6% increase … guess it was meant or 6% more stat points (which does not equal 6% more dmg).
Lets assume you get full equip (including armor) thats a total of 12 × 15 statpoints = 180 statpoints. Since you have about 3k points in total it would be an increase of 6%.
BUT 6% more points does not mean 6% more dmg.
I still dont think it would have a big impact on WvW since most the player dont use the 1h buffs (gem store) nor do they use food or the other stuff (wrench symbol). These player already got a huge advantage (which everone may have) and there are no complaints.
Not sure if rings are soulbound but i know for a fact the dungeon is. So you cant enter the dungeon using another char.
Badges are soulbound so you could get them for any char. I dont really care if they implement sth like a trade for badges since i got 2k of those but i does not seem fair to me.
Best solution would be to raise exotic equip to ascended level in WvW areas. So it would not matter which one of those you got equipped.
I dont think everyone will have ascended gear anytime soon and its just about a few stat point better than excotic. So i guess you wont be able to recognize any big difference.
Anyway, I did really enjoy the fact in GW1 that there was an absolute maximum and you could create pvp chars at maximum stats within a few seconds. Its a bit sad they did not implement this for GW2 (yes i know you can do it for spvp).
Speaking of sad things: Where are my beloved GvG’s? Isnt this game called Guild Wars? Lacking the name’s content aint fun at all -.-
The difference between exotic and ascended gear isn’t small at all. People have calculated how much your damage improves by wearing ascended gear over exotic gear. With just the three pieces you will do 6% more damage. That is not minor. It gets even worse when more ascended gear gets added so you can get a full set. Assuming all ascended gear offers a similar stat increase as the rings did you will do 36% (!) more damage than with exotic gear. That makes this a must have.
Its +15 stats (5 each) per item. So thats a total by now of 6 × 15 = 90 Stats (30 each) IF you are lucky enough to even get one ring and IF that one got the stats you need (want). I dont see how that is supposed to be 6% damage -.-
Basically thats a lot of IF’s … I am lvl 14 in this dungeon and saw just once some1 get a ring (magic find stats included). The time you spend there to even get the chance to drop would equal like 200k karma you could get in WvW.
I dont think everyone will have ascended gear anytime soon and its just about a few stat point better than excotic. So i guess you wont be able to recognize any big difference.
Anyway, I did really enjoy the fact in GW1 that there was an absolute maximum and you could create pvp chars at maximum stats within a few seconds. Its a bit sad they did not implement this for GW2 (yes i know you can do it for spvp).
Speaking of sad things: Where are my beloved GvG’s? Isnt this game called Guild Wars? Lacking the name’s content aint fun at all -.-
“Guesting” as ANet calls it is already coming. It is, as far as I can tell, their way to negate the cries over night/morning capping.
I don’t know exactly how this guesting thing will work but it would mean you could play WvWvW on a different server outside of your matchup. Whether or not that is limited to tiers below your own tier or you could visit higher tiers, I don’t know. But something like what you are saying is in the making.
Guesting is coming up and it’s meant for all content BUT WvWvW afaik
Basically you assume that the chests got nothing of worth inside because items you get are not of any significant worth to you or ppl are selling them way cheaper compared to halloween skins.
I meant skins are not rare compared to Halloween-chest skin-droprate. Maybe the new chests got double the price but the chance to get a skin is by far higher. Actually I am not sure if there is nothing of worth in the chests since Halloween skins were extrem rare and therefore worth more per single item but now skins aren’t rare and therefore worth less and double price of the chest.
Btw: its more like a 50% decrease of skins of weapons (Halloween 8; Lost Shores 4).
I dont get it – the Halloween skins were really rare and everyone was complaining about it. Now that they aren’t ppl start to complain again and the event did not even start by now ….
