Guild Wars 2

LadyRhonwyn.2501:

To those that are saying: buy a new PC:

Minimum specs for GW2 are:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3, AMD Athlon™64 X2 or better
NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI Radeon™ X1800, Intel HD 3000 or better
(256MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)

It should be playable (ok, not at the highest settings) with those specs. Right now, it apparently isn’t.

Minimum specs do not mean the machine will run the game in all game situations. I have a laptop that handles the minimum specs. I know to keep it away from events with large participation. If you want to gripe about specs getting in the way, at least quote the “recommended” specs, as those are the specs that more accurately reflect what “should” work during most if not all in-game environments.

One of my buddies has a compy with the “minimum” specs to run Starcraft 2. But put him in a 4v4 match and he lags out part of the way through most matches.

PS – Yes, I am sure there are some who have the “recommended” specs covered who are still having issues. I just wanted to note there is a difference between “minimum” (aka being able to run the most basic stuff, at lowest settings) and “recommended” (aka being able to run most if not all things, again at fairly low settings)

Bllade.1029:

titanlectro.5029:

Seriously HoD, you tanked on purpose to stay in Bronze league. You had to know you would take some flack for it. Just take your dolyak finisher and move on.

I love it when people act like they would not have done the same thing in that situation.

Get snuffed out like a candle for 7 weeks, or be competitive? Choice is obvious, and let me tell you something the first match-up with SF was the most competitive match either server has had in a very long time.

We would have been in trouble without our night crew, I admit that.

Second match up with SF, blowout. All their fair weathers gave up. Same exact thing that would happen to HoD if we made it into Silver league.

Point is, you’re getting kitten y at the wrong people we didn’t design this league system.

HoD, SF, NSP and IoJ are oddball servers, they don’t belong in Bronze but also certainly don’t belong in Silver. Not in its current set up anyways.

Would you have preferred getting LOL smashed by NSP? Spawn camped the majority of the day? Choose your poison.

Stop acting like you would of taken some sort of moral high road. You know kitten well if any of our servers made it into Silver league half our wvw population would vanish to pout while farming Karka and omnomberries. Then you would of sat on top of a rock somewhere in Orr thinking to yourself, man we should of stayed in Bronze league.

Also, say what you want about HoD but it’s population and organization has really stepped up it’s game from what it use to be. I believe she may even be starting to slowly turn into a WvW server.

Yeah, but he can claim that he personally wouldn’t have taken it easy or maybe done something other than WvW for a week, and that’s all that matters on the interwebs.

Nevermind those of us who were in WvW during HOD’s supposed “tanking” are still marked by his assumptions that the whole server is a bunch of people who don’t want a difficult fight.

I’m not certain, I got into this matchup about two hours after reset, and I was able to get into two of the four boderlands (ours and GOM’s, admittedly), though maybe I just got lucky. Queues weren’t terrible for SF BL or EB, EB was slightly worse.

Against DH, I got in three hours after, and similar situation, couldn’t get into EB, couldn’t get into one of the borderlands, can’t remember if it was DH’s or not though. Queue time was similar though.

Edit: Our presence on non-queued maps was still pretty strong numberswise, for sure. So it’s not like I was looking at “let’s get enough for a breakout!” by any means.

I realize this doesn’t speak for the whole weekend, but my “out of the gate” experience says HoD has pretty much taken every reset night since leagues started with an equal amount of seriousness, at least by participation volume.

There’s more new PvE stuff on Tuesday, right? I’ll be curious to see how/if things change as a result…

Azgarn.2145:

cheshirefox.7026:

Azgarn.2145:

cheshirefox.7026:

i can’t agree with how everyone else plays the game

there are quite a few griefing morons out there
it’s laughable when they try defending their idiocy
it only exposes them further, as the clowns they are

I can’t agree with how you don’t use any sentence structure, punctuation, or capital letters.

There are quite a few uneducated, illiterate morons out there.
It’s laughable when you try to make some condescending post about someone else.
It only exposes you further, showing that you’re more of a joke than we thought.

i’m a teacher of japanese and english. sorry, for upsetting the grammar police.
would you like me to diagram all my forum sentences?
your fail comment only proves the validity of my statement

trolls gunna troll

I’m a teacher of Goa’uld and Tok’ra. Sorry for upsetting the fail police.
Would you like to mock all of your forum posts?
Your fail posts only proves your stubborn, misplaced sense of self-awesomeness.

trolls are going to troll

Don’t the Goa’uld and Tok’ra technically share the same language? I guess it doesn’t matter, just as long as you’re not teaching the ways of Origin.

Bllade.1029:

Thorson.9218:

(which of course HoD night capped back….how the kitten do you guys have THAT many players and are stuck in T7???).

75% of the mass you see there are fair weathers. If this tier was any more competitive to where the PvE’ers had to try, our numbers would be dramatically less.

Heres the story of HoD in a nutshell:

1st situation: “Oh man look, we own everything were so awesome. I’m gonna go zerg around and farm enemies like Karka!”

2nd situation: " Idk there are even numbers out here…. why wont they just roll over and die to my 1 spamming? That blue diamond is saying things I can’t comprehend… strategy? what?……. I might go back to Karka farming; it’s easier."

3rd Situation: " They’re blob is bigger than our blob. Me and my 10 PvE friends are gonna go zerg Karka, too much effort in WvW right now."

You forgot situation 4, and while I admit every server has this issue, it seems more prevalent on HoD in terms of impacts on scores: “New Living World stuff!”

ArkAngel.7940:

playard.6035:

I am still here and there. Just… after Sunday morning and Monday noon (NA Pacific Time) events, I’m a bit tired… but homeland regulars know that I was there somewhere. I’ll (try) make this post quick.

Monday noon/afternoon, right after my post here…
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/l1xrg389xvn2ta2/nmtOLVKJeB

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(Rel/Ref: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/7-26-DR-AR-HoD/page/3#post2515129 weird, failed to quote here )

Dear AR, I’ve never been in your or other enemy borderlands for weeks. (except taking the shortcut to Lion’s Arch from PvE map, walking from DR spawn to LA portal in Citadel is a bit far~) I can’t explain the first screenshot to you, and I, or we, have no power and rights to tell people what to do. They themselves play for fun, too.

I do and did think that it would be funner if the 2nd and 3rd server unspokenly team up against the 1st, but it’s very hard to pull off. I fully understand that it’s not so much fun running around like hell, just like what you do in PvE, to defend your hard- or half-upgraded (or paper :-/ ) borderland posts and to fend overwhelming or at least quite annoying enemies.

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Dear HoD — “Just embrace what you’ve earned for yourself.”

You can trigger the orange swords all by yourself. I was on the cata on lower level covering the treb in Garrison. I’m pretty sure I was the only one near Garrison watergate then, the 2nd time you pushed into our Garrison (13:55 PDT). I saw orange swords, I shouted out in map chat, I saw you in.

You can also see that there weren’t many DR in the pictures when the orange swords popped up. (/kudos Creamy [Bags]) Earlier around noon, your first push to the Garrison watergate, I just logged in and our people just successfully defended our NW tower. You had another one or two small/medium group (/kudos [VLK]) in our borderland then.

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Kanthar Turambar.9164:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

I don’t. I have emotes turned off in chat because spamming it is childish and annoying.

Screenshots attached and also in the Dropbox album.

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Have fun, all!

Huh? I read your post several times and I am confused as to what you were trying to convey here.

I think they’re trying to say they got emoted on when they died at the end of their post there. Though they stayed there, dead, to see what was going on and report back to their team, at which point I’d say it’s their fault for not WPing?

Devon.9061:

So I see we have brought up the issue of Pie being the superior dessert. As you can see by this chart; Pie is the optimal food of choice when debating between Pie and Cake. Other prime examples being the flavor anatomy: (See Image 2). While in a cake you are extremely limited: (See Image 3). The equality of pie is greater than cake also (See Image 4). No person is without equal rights! In conclusion, pie is far superior to any type of cake. (See Image 5).

~Devon

Game, set, match. Right there.

ArkAngel.7940:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

I don’t. I have emotes turned off in chat because spamming it is childish and annoying.

Same here. Whether it’s WvW, world bosses, or standing around in LA… emotes are off for that exact reason. It’s annoying and childish. But when people take great offense to these knuckleheads, I sometimes have to wonder “why?”

Edit, for addition: I certainly don’t know why an emote would keep someone out of WvW. Maybe continued losses against a force far greater, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say they weren’t going to WvW anymore because someone /laughed at them.

How many people actually get offended/discouraged by emotes in a pvp game? I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying people aren’t and I’m not saying it’s polite or anything, I just want to know.

Thorson.9218:

obastable.5231:

here’s a novel concept …. and i realize this might be hard for you to grasp .. but there are 3 exits from spawn, so why not take one of your other options?

if you are dumb enough to continuously exit via the one being spawn camped then you are dumb enough to deserve to be spawn camped.

it’s like .. if you choose door 1 you will get kicked in the nuts when you walk through, but if you choose door 2 or 3 you will be able to safely walk out in to the world. yet, you are taking door 1 and complaining about being kicked in the nuts.

i do not understand.

LOL. Yet more kittenheads. Love it.

Yeah, I know there are 3 exits. The NEWBIES that I’m talking about here do not. Yes, we try to keep people at the spawn for this very reason – escort the newbs. That’s not always possible because frankly we’d like to play the game and not have to baby-sit newbs out of our spawn because of kittenheads who think camping it is “fun”.

Try, if possible, to expand your thinking beyond your little world….or not, I couldn’t care less. The majority of the people responding to this topic are totally clueless to what’s going on and are just proving to be….well, clueless.

Here’s HoD in your shoes:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/28/12
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/28/14
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/28/16

We’ve been through it. You can bet there was a lot of spawn camping. It’s not just HoD that spawncamps. I know, I was there. It sucks, but what can you do. What can we do? Insist people not spawn camp? Odds are, the people setting up spawn camps aren’t the ones who come to the forums seeking WvW honor or respect or whatever you want to call it.

Thorson.9218:

chandrawib.5489:

lolz … people are funny

This is what I’ve come to expect from HoD. We’re Outnumbered, obviously no threat to “win” this match, and they are sieging our spawn. CLASSY!!!! Guess the two alpha golems had ’em skeered, ROFL.

This is what I’ve come to expect from any server who is stomping a different server. Doesn’t say anything about the server, because every server has people who will do this or has had this done to them when the opportunity for it is there.

Don’t tell me you’re a guy who forms their opinion of an entire server over the actions of a few?

Thorson.9218:

JahRo.6432:

Opc.4718:

Everyone will learn to fear it when TFH owns the briar tower in your BL

We had great fun holding it today against HoD’s unamused 25 man zerg when they came around knocking after what we did in their BL, then wiped a good proportion of it when they finally got into the tower, all with a small man group. Plus some brave pugs. It was a fun night, and makes me feel better about this matchup c:

EDIT: The Video in all its zerg smashing glory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwuJ4WnvSU

Don’t let our tiny population fool ya

I wish I recorded the farm on your 30ish man zerg yesterday at your Lake tower with VLK lol. Instantly killed.

You realize you’re talking to someone from AR and 30-man zergs don’t exist on our server, right? Hell, you could even count minions, pets, mesmer clones, and NPCs and you still wouldn’t get to 30, LOL. O.o

Zerg size is always overestimated by those fighting them, zerg size is always underestimated by those in them. I’m willing to bet if two zergs clashed and they were 30 man zergs, each side would claim the other had 50. Or they’d assume their own zerg only had 15.

Sentinel.5731:

Uh huh, cuz on NSP we certainly did not have to Flaming torch for at least 30 mins before that…

Spare us the rage HOD. You are just mad because you aren’t winning. (again) Every server has times where they have overmanned our out manned, its part of the nature of the game. Instead of trying to blame us for using that as a tactic, maybe just deal with it? I did not get on here and kitten when HOD and DR both sent zergs and flipped 3 of our t3 towers. It was super frustrating, and a great play by both servers for seizing the moment.

DL DR take your kitten rage elsewhere, making excuses does not help you win sir

Notice, a post which calls out a whole server for apparently being mad (whether or not said called out server was appropriate) because of one individual post, follows up with “I did not get on here and kitten”, which would imply that just because someone else may have at some point, he individually didn’t so don’t go bashing his whole server.

irishhaf.1692:

shrugs id say the bigger question is why is HOD so obsessed with DR, seems like every time im on green is pushing blue and blue is pushing red.

But but, if HOD pushes NSP, then NSP can say we’re playing for second!

multani.1452:

The drama in this thread is intense! I hope it lasts.

If you think THIS is intense… you are sure in for a treat as the week goes on!

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

Basically, I’m just tired of everyone we face (and yes us, at times) following up what someone did and decided to post about with a “yeah but” kind of comment. Cool, you did something awesome, now here are things that were awesome we did! I know that’s pretty carebear, and kind of kills the forum warrioring we tend to enjoy at work, but it’s a heck of a lot more respectful. I’m as guilty of this as the next guy, but finding reasons to dismiss what a group did (unless it’s abusing hacks/glitches) outside of countering with your own awesome and/or better escapades… I just don’t get the point.

That will never end, just about 99% of the time, as the match goes on. As we get to the midnight hour of reset time…people will be more cordial, until then it’s everyone trying to get the last word in as if what they say WILL BE THE LAST WORD AND THAT IS IT SO HELP ME JEEBUS. Then they’ll sit back, smug or sure as can be, until someone launches with their opinion or whatnot, and fires ’em back up, and it all starts up again.

Golem rushes aside, it’s been a fun week.

Pretty much agreed. While I understand it’s going to happen, there are times where I just have to jump into that fray. At least I know what I’m getting myself into :p

anthsss.1564:

As you may know, if you play any game with a character that has an inherent advantage over the other characters/classes in the game, then your feats aren’t as highly praised as you would like them to be. If you have a lot of people saying “You guys run a ton of ‘x class’ in WvW” and it’s a different class each time, then you should see what the FOTM is. It’s likely that a lot of people on your server reroll to the FOTM in order to do what they are doing, better. It’s a smart tactic, but seen as less honorable, or in this case, less amazing.

Excuse me if the quote doesn’t work quite right because i decided to delete like 70% of the chain. Yeah, I’m aware how FOTM works, I’d still also argue that even if a class is “FOTM”, it’d still take some semblance of ability to pull off using the FOTM build effectively (much like how there’s a major difference between a good and bad theif when they were running around going bananas).

The way I took the 50% necros comment is the same way I take just about every comment that uses some random circumstance to say no you aren’t as skilled as me, go home. “you took this while we (I) slept”. “you only kept that until we decided we didnt want you to” (that’s the one I really like to see). “you spammed X class”. “you are losing in PPT”. As far as I’m concerned, it’s just an excuse to not acknowledge something a player/group/server figured and and used effectively.

Basically, I’m just tired of everyone we face (and yes us, at times) following up what someone did and decided to post about with a “yeah but” kind of comment. Cool, you did something awesome, now here are things that were awesome we did! I know that’s pretty carebear, and kind of kills the forum warrioring we tend to enjoy at work, but it’s a heck of a lot more respectful. I’m as guilty of this as the next guy, but finding reasons to dismiss what a group did (unless it’s abusing hacks/glitches) outside of countering with your own awesome and/or better escapades… I just don’t get the point.

anthsss.1564:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

Iluth.6875:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

This thread. It amuses me. I love that apparently only HOD has no skill yet when they post videos/images of them taking on harder odds… apparently it doesn’t count. Good stuff.

Games over the interwebs are the best.

Hod is about 50% necros atm, so them beating the odds isn’t really that amazing.

Additionally, every server has skilled players, and the bad ones tend not to post videos. So don’t put too much importance on some roamers posting stuff on Youtube, no matter what server they are from.

Depending on who you ask, we’re 50% necros, 50% guardians, 50% mesmers, or 50% rangers. I think i’ve seen all of them applied to us. That’s like, 200% No wonder we beat the odds!

To your second point, that essentially proves my point I was trying to make. It’s entirely pointless who argue about “skill”. The sole purpose of talking about skill is to bait people into forum warrioring. In the end, every server has skill, every server lacks skill. Every time skill is shown, it’s usually ignored if someone is convinced they know all that there is to know about the topic.

The people are estimating how many necros they have seen in comparison to other people on your server, and it seems that there are a lot of people that run necros on your server. Is that hard to understand? The semantics of the exact percentage of necros that are running around in WvW on your server is silly to even bring up into a discussion because nobody knows those figures and it would be a pain for anybody to even attempt to research those figures other than somebody at arenanet, and it would likely be a very safe bet to make, that the amount of necros playing on HoD in WvW is not a huge talking point at arenanet.

A lot of players on HoD are playing Necro. Simple, true, and you can’t scrutinize the semantics of a “guess-timation.” If you need me to simplify more things for you to understand, just send me a whisper in game and I’ll help you out.

“Hod is about 50% necros atm, so them beating the odds isn’t really that amazing.”

I don’t care what the percentage estimate is, I don’t care what the class is, my point was apparently no matter what class we supposedly run more of, beating the odds apparently isn’t amazing, because we run whatever class they happened to see a lot of. Feel free to explain my flaws to me, I play under the same name normally.

Iluth.6875:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

This thread. It amuses me. I love that apparently only HOD has no skill yet when they post videos/images of them taking on harder odds… apparently it doesn’t count. Good stuff.

Games over the interwebs are the best.

Hod is about 50% necros atm, so them beating the odds isn’t really that amazing.

Additionally, every server has skilled players, and the bad ones tend not to post videos. So don’t put too much importance on some roamers posting stuff on Youtube, no matter what server they are from.

Depending on who you ask, we’re 50% necros, 50% guardians, 50% mesmers, or 50% rangers. I think i’ve seen all of them applied to us. That’s like, 200% No wonder we beat the odds!

To your second point, that essentially proves my point I was trying to make. It’s entirely pointless who argue about “skill”. The sole purpose of talking about skill is to bait people into forum warrioring. In the end, every server has skill, every server lacks skill. Every time skill is shown, it’s usually ignored if someone is convinced they know all that there is to know about the topic.

This thread. It amuses me. I love that apparently only HOD has no skill yet when they post videos/images of them taking on harder odds… apparently it doesn’t count. Good stuff.

Games over the interwebs are the best.

azyume.6321:

jbondo.9817:

oh man SF is such a joke now

Eh, it’s no different from the time when HoD was enjoying the Southsun beach. There is no reason to call a server a joke because of that since we all know that SF have way more people than the ones currently playing in wvw. Just like, in my opinion, there was no reason to make posts asking HoD to come back that time.

All in all I’m happy with ET players, we have been improving and from the posts I read, we have been able to be a little more competitive against HoD. It’s a happy time for us.

Speaking as a Hengie, a rejuvenated ET is good news for the game. Glad to see FC is hanging tough in their matchup, as well!

JahRo.6432:

I’m surprised ET is so hateful against HoD lol. I personally love you guys and finding random duels and skirmishes, especially with the BS group I always see roaming around. As for only fighting you, I have yet to push in any of your territories, aside from small group play looking for duels. I guarantee that the majority of us are busy with SF. If you are being pushed, it’s either a guild doing their own thing, or a smaller zerg. That being said, you’ve surprised us all with the effort you’ve put in this week and I hope it continues.

To be fair, from the look of the thread, it’s basically one guy freaking out about HOD beating on ET.

katz.8376:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

Millenium hasnt been updated in an hour. NEED MAH SCORE UPDATES

that’s cuz WvW has been down for the last hour. yay patch day!

Things I don’t remember when I’m at work

Millenium hasnt been updated in an hour. NEED MAH SCORE UPDATES

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Score update please and thank you.

141 232 FC
340 628 HOD
114 632 ET

;)

Tei.1704:

There are always people that act like a zerg that must have queued the map and 20 omega golems were not a serious attempt at taking something. The shroud of “fun” is not fooling anybody. Having fun and making a serious attempt are not mutually exclusive. Your plan to have fun probably didn’t involve wiping. You probably didn’t intend to send your commander off with failure.

Posts like yours always come off as pathetic to me. Losing isn’t nearly as bad as trying to make terrible excuses for it. Everybody loses sometimes, but only a select few insist they weren’t trying after the fact.

My personal favorite are the “nice job taking position X until we decided we didn’t want you there anymore”. Yeah, I can argue that my side wasn’t REALLY trying until that time we (finally) succeeded as well.

I feel like a number of things happened in our final week against SF before the matchup changes this week. A combination of completely crushed morale, some server drama, and some guilds jumping ship wound up hitting HOD’s WvW population pretty hard. As a result of the drama, I’m guessing, and if I am wrong please correct me, some of our best commanders who were sticking with the server sort of took the week off. Not necessarily because of anything an outside force did, more because of a rift between our WvW guilds. All you needed to do was go to LA to figure that much out. Without several of our well known commanders, PUGs didn’t really have the blue tags to flock to, would get disappointed in a lack organization, and would not stick it out. To say we quit solely because of SF isn’t exactly accurate. It was more a perfect storm of elements that make people just take a break.

We didn’t all just quit. A lot of us did what you or I would, wait for a storm to blow over. Our WvW confidence was low, there was a lot of finger pointing, and in the end, a few guilds wound up leaving. We eventually got bumped down to T8, and that is where we began our journey to where we are today.

Once we hit Tier 8, things started changing. It was inevitable, but yes, it was probably accelerated by the fact that we weren’t getting crushed by SF. Confidence has shot up. You can see that just by what’s going on this week. SF is still dominating in total score, but we’ve still had a lot of great fights. Morale is great. If anything, the week that HOD allegedly “quit” is the best thing that could have happened to us. The commanders and guilds who stuck out that week have seen a level of cooperation that didn’t exist before. New commanders (at least new to me) have risen up and earned my respect when I see their names across my chatbox. Yeah, we aren’t winning in PPT always, we aren’t crushing the way SF crushed, but we’re mostly all having fun.

Fellow Hengies, if you feel like anything I said wasn’t a fair representation (or have anything to add), feel free to correct me. Odds are you’re closer to the situation than I am

King Amadaeus.8619:

Aratoa.7398:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Aratoa.7398:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Oh its the “we are smaller therefore more skilled, and elite” argument…..Hellooooooooooo lower tiers….

Get a clue kid, everybody and their brother always hides behind that excuse. Numbers are the reason why a server “wins” the WvW match…Sf loses open field fights, HoD does too, hell i bet the almighty JQ and the rest of the nubs that piled into high tiers in the name of elitism all fail too.

The fact is that you small time people never wanna admit that there are (at the very least) a comparable amount of skilled players on every server, and in contrast bad ones. You have them, we have them, every server does.

Law of averages says that the more people you have the more you are likely to have of each….

I for one have little respect for HoD in general due to your “roll over and show our kitten” strategy the last time we met you guys. While I understand there were some that stuck it out, do not jump on your kittening high and mighty horse with me, I know quitters when I see them.

The best part about this post is how you go from saying that every server has good players, bad players, wins fights and loses fights (all correct), then switch over to characterizing an entire server and saying HoD are all quitters. Very classy and completely contradictory to the point you were making less then a paragraph earlier. Every server has quitters, yours does too and characterizing an entire server based on a win in the past is patently wrong. If HoD crushed SF, I’d bet you would see quite a few less people on the battlefield. Perhaps you shouldn’t be on your high horse as well?

Perhaps you should re-read and see that my tone addressed the majority of the players on your server (the ones that quit because it was A LOT OF THEM), while still acknowledging that SOME of you stayed….

Also my horse is bigger than your horse.

Perhaps you should re-read my post? I’m addressing the contradictory nature of yours, not the language you used. You argue that HoD and other lower population servers have equal too or less than amounts of skilled players to SF and should not say they are better individually, but then make an argument that HoD has more ‘quitters’ (indeed, almost the entire server by your estimates) then anyone else and thus have no respect for them. If (by your own admission) servers will have a relatively equal amount of good and bad players, then it’s quite likely that SF has a proportionally the same amount of ‘quitters’ as HoD and any other server, you simply haven’t been steamrolled enough to see it happen. Thus perhaps you shouldn’t have almost no respect for an entire servers worth of people based upon a win from the past which established your bias.

I love when people think they are the braniacs of the forum, trying to analyze what i am saying but ignoring that good players can be quitters, and if you knew anything about what I say or SF in general you would know that i am fully aware of our fairweather quitters.

Also my horse is still larger than yours my intellectual friend.

Well if wishes were horses, we’d all be eating steak.

Including an apparent fix to the matching system!

Wow. Millenium hasn’t been updated since before I was on last night O.o

Score update?

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Khursun.2354:

As for people making snide remarks, enough already with where is HoD crap. The fighters that show up and try are not deserving of your flippant dismissals since it’s obvious we are lacking bodies for map coverage.

I think most of the “where’s HoD?” comments/attitudes comes from the (possibly unfounded) perception that you did have those numbers during the first two weeks of the match-up..whereas this week you have been a relative ghost town.

So it’s not a comment on your overall status/population/capability.. it’s genuine puzzlement as to where did all those players we’ve been seeing for weeks suddenly disappear to?

The problem isn’t necissarily “where’s HoD”, Khursun clearly has an issue with a person calling HoD “useless”, which is pretty harsh. Server activity goes up, server activity goes down. I’m guessing with a largish guild leaving alongside the beatdown going on, a lot on HoD feel pretty darn low morale. Calling HoD “useless” fora down week, that’s probably less classy than corpsedancing.

yanoch.7051:

Have you seen the queu graph they just released…

wow HoD…

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6533/Henge_of_Denravi.PNG

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6539/Northern_Shiverpeaks.PNG

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6543/Sorrow_s_Furnace.PNG

Ahh I remember those days. Always green and still unable to get map completion thanks to the queueueueueue boss >.<

obastable.5231:

the problems hod faces are myriad, but the biggest one since SF moved up is a bunch of people deciding to just stay out of wvw.

how boring is that?

instead they stand around LA and say things like, “i wish i didn’t care about wvw so much, because that score makes me want to cry” .

and i /facepalm … and bite my tongue … and am reminded why i stay out of LA as much as possible.

Pretty much echo this sentiment.

I thought we were doing somewhat well through the weekend then I see what I see on millenium. I guess HOD was having some problems getting into WvW for a bit? Did I read that somewhere?

As long as the rate of badge gain stays constant or improves, I’m totally okay with this. Moar badges for all!

Based on what DR and IoJ look like as far as rating, and this week being probably the biggest point gain SF will get assuming similar activity, it’ll take a couple weeks for SF to gain the rating needed to showdown with DH. DR only lost 20 rating and IoJ actually gained some, so SF probably needs a couple more weeks of similar beatings to take their action to tier 6.

Looking forward to some WvW action tonight! Been largely unable to the last day or two

If there’s anything I have to give major props to SF for, it’s providing the zergball to at least try to hold at bay, combined with my standard WvW playlist of mostly Amon Amarth feeling incredibly epic

kurath.9406:

I don’t think HoD can afford to have PAXA go back to NSP.

We’ve been losing forum wars for months and they’re the only ones keeping us in the game now. Its been four pages since anyone else from the server has posted, those are the kinds of coverage gaps that no one can come back from.

Ahh but the more we rely on them to keep up our forum war games, the less we are forced to learn to become a better forum warring server! Sometimes it’s good to be totally outmanned in the forum wars, where points matter less than on Who’s Line is it Anyway

SilencedScream.2167:

Darkothe.1253:

I’m sorry that HoD and NSP have to deal with SF. Spawn camping? Really? With any luck they’ll zerg-ball their way through t7 and get to a place where this tactic is not going to work – provoking them to start their “whining posts”

Meh. I’m getting the sinking feel SF’s intentionally pushing HoD to T8 before they score T6.

Joke’s on them – the more they zerg-ball and dominate our tier, the more they have to work later because of the Glicko system. If they don’t dominate in higher tiers, they’ll get stuck in the same standstill-hellhole that they were in before, just in a different tier.

What did poor HoD ever do to them

Manoa.5897:

duckideva.6358:

SF Portal bombs are shocking the first couple of times you see them; and I really think those should be restricted to only the people in a mezmer’s party, or only allow Xnumber of people through. Portal bombing ikittenllion people is game-breaking, and while not an infraction of the rules, it is certainly skating the line of cheating, it seems to me.

You do know that portals are limited to use by 20 people, yes? ANet nerfed Portal Bombs a LONG time ago (like, December).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Portal_Entre

Not saying whether 20 is a reasonable cap or not, but it is somewhat odd that the portal is capped at 20 while most buffs are capped at 5. Probably to avoid completely overstacking mesmers? Probably a discussion for another thread or eighty that have already been made about it.

BARFn.2841:

I want to know how often NSP and HoD fought each other this weekend?

I had a blast with SoF this weekend, but it was one mad scramble after another, repelling and/or retaking one tower/camp after another. From my perspective, it seemed like every battle was SoF vs NSP or SoF vs HoD….I think I only ran into one NSP vs HoD battle (which I immensely enjoyed watching from a distance). Was that just my imagination or do I need to get out more and see the world?

SF’s on our borders, takin our stuffs. That’s where we’re gonna put our people! I did notice HoD taking a bit of territory in the NSP borderlands over the weekend though, so there is that. Though they might have just been taking over the stuff SF took initially before SF moved on to our BL :P

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

Predictions were made:

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I agree. That is why I just ignored all the kitten talking from all three sides and just posted that I will let the results speak for themselves. We of SF are no joke and with healthy competition we will only improve. As out numbers (zergball, whatever, call it what you want) start getting more experience with tougher battles our edge will sharpen.

Great fights that I was involved in over the weekend. Can’t wait to get off work this afternoon!!

Indeed. I think the best part about this fight (for me) isn’t the competitiveness by score but rather the fact that even if we’re getting pushed back (I’m HoD), we can still try, with varied success, to hold at bay the ball o’ doom (the usually quite disciplined ball o’ doom if we’re talking the borderland capping gang) until either help arrives, or our own groups can start taking back our stuffs.

Predictions were made:

SF will flatten HoD and NSP worse than they were destroying FC and ET (nope).
HOD and NSP are going to stop SF back to t8 (nope).
GOM is going to flatten t8 (nope).
T8 is going to destroy GOM (nope).
ANY T8 server can threaten in t7 (remains to be seen, what will the t8 end score look like?).
SF belongs in t(better than 7) (sure looks like it).
SF are weekend warriors who will lose steam going into the week (remains to be seen, I’m guessing the evenings will all move pretty similarly).
GOM may start slow and pick up steam through the week (sure looks like it).

These are a few I remember off the top of my head. I was guilty of thinking HOD and NSP would crush SF, I’ll admit, but really, the accuracy on the extremes is pretty hilariously off.

Pentose.3479:

SF’s zerg is so big they get inside our tower before the door is even down

So SF’s numbers are so big they can literally run into doors to get in? Apparently the math worked against them for so long they got a buff?

Aeonblade.8709:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Announcing this correction with so little warning feels a bit like throwing GoM under the bus… how about making the ratings bump a bit more public and waiting till next week so servers have a chance to prepare.

How is this throwing GoM under the bus? I’m just curious, because even if they normalize t8, you still have a week to not come in third place again. Either show up or don’t and fall to t8, pretty clean cut.

From what I’ve read, GOM may be moved down to t8 as a result of the ratings bump, though it’s not a guarantee. Which would mean they potentially might not have that week to “not come in third place again”.

What will happen if SF is bumped up because of an artificial ratings increase (whether deserved or not):

HoD and NSP will initially “welcome” SF due to SF’s forum warriors proclaiming their superiority over all of t7 already.

ET and FC will initially “welcome” GoM to prove that t8 can hold their own against a t7 server. (And probably see an increase in activity just due to the holycrapnotSF factor)

No more than 12 hours into each match, the regular doubleteaming begins to rotate, with many complaints to the forums about who is ganging up on who.

Debois Guilbert.6413:

Kanthar Turambar.9164:

I’m guessing it would depend on how much of an attempt at real tactics takes place. it seemed to me last night that both HOD and NSP were essentially running karma trains with little to no desire to hold and fortify, at least when I’m playing. Either that or badge, and not points, hunting.

NSP (lots of Os, but others there as well) made an effort to defend both GoM garrison and GoM hills last night. Not sure what map you were on, but we had some good fights in GoM BL.

GOM borderlands was the one map I did not step foot in, so yeah, I would have missed seeing that

Until glicko takes over and does to t6-7 what it has done to t8 :P