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Why is JQ and SoR playing dead?

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An assessment of a very short sighted view of the situation.

11/1: SoR/BG/SoS (Gold League Round 3)

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This probably should be posted on the sor forums, but since it seems sor doesn’t want to care about their server pride at the moment I’m just going to spill it here.

There’s been a problem brewing on sor for some time, it just hadn’t reared it’s ugly head before the season started but it’s something I noticed as the weeks went by, a certain attitude from sor guilds and and sor commanders. Last week “for the fights” mantra I kept hearing really made me disappointed in sor as well. Look, every player and guild has the right to play the game however they want, I’ve been a part of guilds like that, but there is a time and place for these things.

We all have had an entire year to go around to just “for the fights!” and not worry about the scoreboard, the moment we started the season that should have been put aside until certain things happened. When we’re far ahead or behind in score with no chance of the score flipping towards the end of the week, hey forget the siege and go for the fights, no one would have a problem with that.

The first three days of a match up when we’re all fighting to take the lead put your efforts before yourselves and do something for your server, get the points from ppt or grab the orb buff and get to stomp. If you can’t find it in yourself to help your server win a match up in a season then please get off the top 3 servers where everyone went to get the top competition. You can find fights just as well fighting on the other side and arrange your gvg’s as well if that’s your thing.

It’s sad that sor is not motivated by the season, servers like maguuma and sos fought and stayed in gold league while others may have tanked, even though they have no chance to compete in it. I’m glad they’re making a wvw overflow map, a lot of guilds are going to fit right in there, no points for the server, plenty for yourselves, and nothing but fights.

Sor is self destructing because of the guilds, some of them are unwilling to play with others, they pull good players from the server into their guild and then play among themselves. I’ve heard commanders sound disgusted they have too many pugs with them, some will do things to shake them off, some commanders are unwilling to work with pugs at all, which I think is very important to maintaining numbers on your side.

If you are not out there leading whether we’re winning or losing with the pugs they will give up wandering around aimlessly getting slaughtered. But I suppose that’s what you want right? well 12:30pm on a saturday outmanned on a bl, the pugs have already given up and the ap hunters are gone so who’s left to fill the space?

Now you guilds have what you wanted, an open queue and a ton of bg to fight, but the price? There is hurt pride and broken morale all in the name of just looking for fights to fill your bags up, and it’s only week 3 of 7 where we were expected to compete for first, instead what’s left of the season is talk of waiting to 2v1 with jq on bg on week 7, so I guess we should just get the karma train running for 4 weeks huh.

I know commanding the pug zerg can be trying on the nerves, but if you want better players you need to train and lead them, all I ever hear is blame being set on them for anything that goes wrong. Even the week before the season I mentioned in chat that commanders should be out and leading, and yet I got back the “it’s training week for guilds” that attitude was bound to bite us back.

Then I constantly hear well bg has two times our numbers, of course they do they use their pugs, you fight with your minimum numbers and claim to have better skill but unless the lag and skill lag goes away completely, or you have more skillful players than the other side then it means nothing, numbers will crush you and be available at more places than you can be at once. Your pugs will also not get better if you keep throwing them to the wolves, ridicule them, and blame them for everything.

We still have a number of excellent guilds and commanders around, I appreciate the work they do to coordinate us and creating the fun that can be had from wvw. I don’t need to name other guilds or commanders this was in regards to, if you read this and are offended then really ask yourself if it’s true, do you care enough to help the server or not, if you’re not offended then I’ll say keep on fighting please, the people that follow appreciate it, Rally up Rall.

11/1: SoR/BG/SoS (Gold League Round 3)

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Its funny hearing all these SoR talk about queue times on BG, when fact is BG as the only server didnt have queued maps in 4 out of 5 timezones in week 1. Then close to half of our SEA forces left us, and the closest thing we could get to a replacement was ZD, that plays in late SEA / early EU. In before you guys saying we got queues now, let me just say that we still dont have queues in other timezones than PST.

If you want to have a serious discussion about coverage, lets base it on facts and not on bs like that.

First than own up that you received more than just ZD. I really do not care much since I am not really playing this game anymore do the direction it is heading. But to claim you only received one guild is not accurate either. You received quite a few in time slots where SoR does not have the best coverage, hence the uncompetitive match during those time slot.

Oh who did BG received and in which timeslot?

10/18: JQ/SoR/BG (Gold League Round 1)

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And this is why it’s very important for Sanctum of Rall and Blackgate for Jade Quarry to come 3rd if we want any chance.

I’m glad to see how little faith SoR and BG have in their own servers =) so what you’re basically saying, is that because JQ is stronger than both of you, that your ONLY chance to win this season is to 2v1 JQ every chance you get? I’ll take that as a compliment, though a server having to openly try to force a 2v1 on the forums kinda shows you how weak they are don’t you think? Do you honestly believe that BG or SoR deserve to call themselves the “top” server if they continuously rely on each other to try to keep JQ in third? Even after an entire week of this failed logic JQ is still right on your heels. Kinda shows you who the true number 1 server is doesn’kitten

Then looks like Anet has little faith in JQ so they decided to throw in a couple of easy matches for them.