Guild Wars 2

Don’t you get bored of opening non stop threads about thief being op? You cry about steal+backstab and than you mention quickness? For what does a thief use quickness when he backstabs you? Did you ever learn the class?
And what is “OP” on the signet? 150% damage, not 150%. It is a bonus of imba 50 % for the next attack and has a 45 sec cooldown. Of course you can get big numbers together with backstab AND other traits, like 5 stacks might when activating a signet etc. But the signet itself is definitely NOT “OP”. If you wonder why you get instantly killed you should consider to get more toughness instead of being a glass cannon yourself.
If a warrior stuns100B a thief he will be dead too as long as he has nothing to get out of the stun. I am pretty sure there will be nothing nerfed and that will just show you flamers that the thief is not as “OP” as you want him to be. Work on your own builds and on your gameplay how to counter a thief instead of talking kitten.

Wolfe.3097:

lets go down the line shall we

@Proeliator, ty, i try to be unbiased even tho i main a thief

@EnochDagar, we are not supposed to be masters of damage, merely just high damage, you can take your own interpretation of what high damage should be. and it wasnt in the class description, it was a anet post about thieves strengths, which was supposed to be damage and mobility. i did find it odd they didnt mention stealth unless they consider it part of mobility or something. I dont recall anywhere in this thread people wanting to nerf or keep elemental damage down, so bringing it up is pure case of being unhappy about elementalist damage it seems. fair enough, tho no real place in this thread i think.

@Kijima, if you have shadowstep your not using hte exact glass cannon build most people are talking about. saying i spec backstab nad have survivability isnt the same as speccing that exact build and saying it. that specific backstab thief has 2 dodges and stealth, maybe shortbow for infiltrator arrows, thats it for mobility/survivability. if you have something else that adds to it, congrats, but your not using that specific build. tho people not knowing how to counter a thief in shadow refuge…im not sure how thats the thiefs problem :P. but i dont think your a pure glass spec, specially if you have shadowstep! but ya, hard to find good players to face sometimes.

@Kelhus, yes, when you take it down to bare bones, a glass cannon thief has stealth and 2 dodges while other glass cannons typically only have 2 dodges. but before we go nerf nerf nerf, we need to fix the few bugs stealth has, which all favor the thief. then we can properly adjust.

@burrid, well a thief will do one of two things in stealth, attack you, or run away. if we attack you and have a dagger, we are going for your back. if we are running away its most likely switching to shortbow and using infiltrator arrow, after the first arrow we are put out of stealth so you see where we are going…problem…stelath is bugged, we dont become visible right away, thus making it seem more OP then it is.

@barti, agreed they are annoying, far more annoying then stealth imo, key is to hit them in between evades, small window, but its there, combined with there pitiful hp they do die in seconds if they are not evading.

@Wolfe

I think there are different glass cannon speccs. About which one are you talking about? My build looks like this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlUmaPXcS6E/5Ex2DfuTi6VgsaPo5NbJA;TsAg0Cno4ywlgLLXOukctgYQxECA

I know some ppl even use haste but i dont see why i should use that. I have a good balance with a lot of burst, constant high damage and good utility to get out of combat or just to turn the fight into my advantage. Of course if i get ganked or i face also good players i can die quite fast, depending on the cooldowns but overall this specc allows me to fight 1vsx without dying in a second as someone mentioned here before. You can take a look here, i made a video testing things out and at the second half you see that shadowstep is a really good skill to get advantage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgbSUix6Y38

The survivablity is great and i had some very epic moments, just didnt record them. In the end it is not the class, it’s the player. And thats what most ppl dont get. A bad thief wont kill you as long as you are not bad too. Seriously, which thief is killing someone by spamming 2… and ppl who think that a thief wont do damage after the first burst just make me smile.

PS: What the .. the censorship here is hilarious.

Sirevanac.3178:

Well, i talk in my experience. I play cond dmg thief, and i kill the glass cannon after they try to combo me.

Yes thats true. As ALWAYS it depends on how the people play their class. Good condition thiefs are really hard as a glas cannon, bad conditions thiefs are not – i just roll 2 times, maybe step away or remove the bleeds and his 3-5 death blossoms are gone . And if you get suprised by a glass cannon, there is no “after”.

Glass cannon backstab dies in a second? Dont make me lol so hard plz. I play a a build like that and i assure you i do not even close to die in “a second”. I dont know what thiefs you were facing on. I can also just “lol” about the ppl who say that after the initial burst the thief is naked. Did you ever play a thief? Sorry but those tons of thief topics are amazing. So much whining and in the end almost none of you have an Idea of what a thief is really capable of.
If you feel better thinking that a thief dies in a second, ok do so and dont be suprised facing a good thief making you crazy with movement and good timing of skills like shadowstep etc. I posted already a video about this, i had so much amazing moments which i didnt record and in the end i dont care, it would be cool for myself but you guys will always say blabla. And i smile and let you to continue your blabla because i have the experience unlike some other ppl here. Especially you talk about spvp also, you cannot be serious, dying in a second lol. Even i have 14k hp i live much longer than others with 20k + and a good amount of toughness. I even have the guts to ressurect team members in shadow refuge and take my time because most of you dont even know how to counter the thief while using shadow refuge.
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/3553/gw017x.jpg
Do you think games like this in SPVP are possible if you die alot? The opponents wasnt that bad. Sadly most of the players dont even know how to play their class. I rarely face good eles or good warriors, if they are good they give me a really hard time but it is still possible to beat them. Guardians are very good against thiefs, mesmers are good but even those classes are often played so bad so dont always cry about thiefs, talking about being “OP”, talking about non stop 15k crits or downing you with spamming “2”. And reading things like “glass cannon dies in a second” just makes me smile alot Unbelievable. Hope you meet me ( Akuría ) in PvP and than lets see how much you know about glass cannons.

tanga – thats what you just showed me.

does GW2 have? I find it really strange that only a few hundred or sometimes thousand views threads get on the forum. Feels like Ultima Online Forum here and that game is very old. In “Blizzard” Forums you always get lots of answers, of course often from some stupid kidz but at least the community is very active unlike the gw2 community. Rarely new topics, especially in the german forum which is the reason i post here and even if there is a new post it seems like nobody is interested in a conversation. I have searched the net if i missed a big forum or something but there just is none.

Copy / paste the link, as far as i know this forum cannot handle “;” ;-)

Hey, glad you liked it. I also yawn about ppl who seriously think a glas cannon dies instantly. I tried different builts but this one is pure fun and highly effective, especially when using shadowstep. I really like to try this one out in tpvp but unfortunately i dont know anyone in gw2 so i am grinding spvp alone which makes me bang my head against the table sometimes, doing “impossible” moves against 2-3 targets and loose because the own team sucks so hard. But even in bad games you still feel the power of a thief and it is so much fun. Actually i got flamed alot for killing so fast but i don’t care.

My built looks like this:

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlUmaPXcS6E/5Ex2DfuTi6VgsaPo5NbJA;TsAg0Cno4ywlgLLXOukctgYQxECA

Pretty smooth built and i dont feel the missing thoughness and HP as you can see in the video too. I use a shortbow too alot, depending on the situation.

Hey guys, just wanna share my video playing with a glas cannon built. Not asking for subs or whatever, just wanna share it to some ppl who like to watch pvp footage. Ppl say it’s hard to survive with a glas cannon built, i think thats wrong. Shadowstep owns them all.

Hey guys, just wanna share my Thief PvP Videos with those who are interested in them. Good video quality, nice footage.

Hey guys, i really love to play my thief and tried out different builds like full condition, a selfmade build which was very good and now i am running around with a more squishy but very funny build.
First of all even though i am squishy i dont die as fast as ppl might think. Of course i miss to have more hp and some other nice traits but i just feel good with this build. Also those insanely high crits and 1-2sec kills of course depend on cooldowns but even on cooldown of course you are able to deal quite alot damage. I am not talking about tpvp here, i dunno if this build is good for it. Most ppl might doubt it, i think it depends on the player and his likes. It can be very effective to take down an enemy very fast.

However i made a video, unfortunately recorded half size for now. Dont blame me too much for mistakes, as you can see i am only rank 10 now and i never called myself a “pro”. I was one before in Ultima Online and first WoW years but i definitely get old xD.. Well, just wanna know what you think about glass canon builds like this? I jump in and kill my target and if i dont have good positions i just pull out the shortbow.
I am not yet done with trying out different specc because i didnt use full condition build in pvp yet but i just cannot stop using this one for now because it is just sooo much kitten fun. At least for me, not for the enemy. Must be frustrating. Oh and i read alot through the forums. I see ppl who say like 12k is only possible on low gear or under lvl 80. Well, this is spvp only and i crit higher on light and medium armor. And also not all the opponents are bad, i had some interesting fights. I just recorded full size a very awesome moment, me and another thief attacked each other at the same time, standing next to each other in stone form, in the end we both died quite fast. I guess he used a similar build.

Ppl who might wonder how to counter that, of course if you dont see the thief coming it will be very hard. But if you see the thief coming you might dodge when he is in range for a steal and it will be more difficult to get into position again, wasting also the basilisk venom.

Pls just take a look at the build not the music, i know it is not everyones taste but i liked to use prodigy.