Guild Wars 2

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So ive been posting and reading on the forums
what bothers me is the amounts of player’s telling me how i need to have fun playing.
While a great aspect of the game prevents me of doing the most basic fun stuf.

• Crafting -> TP mats to expensive, cant farm becuz of diminishing returns
• Dynamic events -> diminishing returns and massive zerg groups obliterating everything in its path
• Dungeon’s -> diminishing returns
• WvW -> massive zerg groups long waitning que’s
• Trading post -> everything at vendor price except for crafting mats (vials of blood and such)
• map completion can only be done one’s
• Karma gear = expensive & time consuming -> 42000 a piece
• dungeon gear = expensive & time consuming 40min for 20/1300
• dungeons have no interesting boss mechanics just large health pools
• lvl 80 repair bills are almost 15 silver
• travel cost are to expensive

i dont ask to be given everything on a silver plater but admit it or not, this is a grind game that dosen’t allow you to even grind.

Just becuz Arenanet is trying to much if they would atleast remove
diminishing returns code this would give so much more breathing space again.
but atm am stuck with mostly everything

sry for my engl writing its not my native language, thx for understanding

Kana.6793:

Komatik.2078:

• I don’t like WvW
• map completion is frustrating due to the high travel costs not to mention repairs along the way

are these the only 2 things i could do just to break even with my repairs, travel, crafting
and armour upgrade costs?
Cuz srsly am not going to play a game that makes me earn/ farm 4 vials of blood for 2 runs before the law of diminishing returns kicks in while i need 44 of them just to lvl to the next tier of crafting without spending gold

Kana.6793:

Anet promised a game with no grinding

yet a dungeon set cost 13k, crafting require ridiculous amounts of mats wich you can’t farm/ earn btw, Karma gear cost 42k a piece and so on am not gona repeat the full list.

Kana.6793:

Just play normally and vary your activities and you’ll have everything eventually.

well i can’t do that eather due to the law of diminishing returns code
stay to long in a zone or DE you like and you get punished for it

Well I’ve been doing a bit of everything and I hardly die. I have nearly full exotic including crafted weapons and 4 pieces of 42k karma gear. I have a 5g guild backpack, maxed huntsman and some gold spare. No I have not bought gold with gems, I actually converted gold into gems and bought dye with it.

Zone completion gives a decent amount of silver and 40 of a crafting material appropriate to the area, so it’s far more worthwhile to finish that off than to grind. Higher level zones actually give level 70-ish exotics for zone completion, which you can wear, salvage for ecto’s or sell.

I don’t understand why you’d want to keep doing the same DE over and over? If your drops stop just move on.

why, becuz i like to help my friends in lower lvl zones and just becuz crafting just requers me to get massive amounts of mats. I dont think you fully grip the law of diminishing returns its applied for the entire map not just the event you are doing but for every event you are playing on the map spend more then 15min in the map and the law will automaticly kick in just do some tests and you will notice it.

I dont like to be controlled if i want to do a boring DE over and over again that should be my choice not Anets. For me Guild Wars 2 is sounding more as Penalty Wars 2

loved it but starting to hate it

Kana.6793:

If you just do events, map completions and some WvW you get plenty of money from playing normally. There is no need to specifically farm. You also, at the same time, get plenty of karma.
What the game prevents is the ridiculous situation they had in GW1 where people made builds that made them invincible while pulling an entire zone of vaettirs, rezoning and repeating for hours etc. So many players ended up at the gold cap that ecto’s had to be used as an unofficial currency. This is madness.
Half the forum is filled with complaints that “the entire game is a grind and Anet promised a game with no grinding, why don’t I have all the items after 2 weeks!” and the other half is complaining that running around in circles killing the same mobs for hours isn’t as profitable as actually playing the game.
Just play normally and vary your activities and you’ll have everything eventually.

• I don’t like WvW
• map completion is frustrating due to the high travel costs not to mention repairs along the way

are these the only 2 things i could do just to break even with my repairs, travel, crafting
and armour upgrade costs?
Cuz srsly am not going to play a game that makes me earn/ farm 4 vials of blood for 2 runs before the law of diminishing returns kicks in while i need 44 of them just to lvl to the next tier of crafting without spending gold

Kana.6793:

Anet promised a game with no grinding

yet a dungeon set cost 13k, crafting require ridiculous amounts of mats wich you can’t farm/ earn btw, Karma gear cost 42k a piece and so on am not gona repeat the full list.

I dont understand that you are defending this cuz think about it this way no matter what rules they put in to discourage players from farming/ earning currency A for X amounts of time. It will still always take less time for a hardcore player to get everything he wants while we the casual only have a hour a week mby and only get 20-30 out of the13k for a full set this will take me years without a visual clue that am making progress.

Kana.6793:

Just play normally and vary your activities and you’ll have everything eventually.

well i can’t do that eather due to the law of diminishing returns code
stay to long in a zone or DE you like and you get punished for it

Kana.6793:

You just claimed the game is a grind and then listed a load of things that you say prevent you from grinding…

No i dont think you understand fully what am trying to say, the game prevent’s you of making reliable gold, thus prevent’s you from progressing whatever you are doing ingame.

It’s so bad you can’t even farm/ grind/ earn whatever you want to call it.
becuz its:
A: to time consuming
B: discouraged → anti farming code
C: hase a very steep price

Ive posted this in another thread but i will repost it here again since its more on topic then it was on the other thread.

How is this game not a grind?
Everything costs money, karma or dungeon tokens.

I enjoyed the game very much at first but now it starting to frustrate me
I loved lvling my ranger but now with everything f*** up i don’t have any reason
To keep playing while this game has so much potential it has more flaws then goods that Completely destroy all the fun things left to do.

My lvl 80 ranger is pretty much on hold since there is no incentive to do anything in this game cuz the income from [input activity] issent rewarding enough for the time and cost investment put in the first place.

• i cant craft cuz there is no relible income for gold → TP
• i cant farm for crafting due to the anti farming code
• orange karma gear is around 42k per piece wtf???
• i cant run dungeons cuz they drop only blue’s and green’s and very sometimes a yellow
• i cant farm dungeon gold due to anti farming code
• i cant farm for dungeon gear due to the 13k tokens needed to get a full set
• i cant farm dungeons cuz there to time consuming for the reward given, loot as intellectual rewarding wise.
• events are also not a reliable source of income anymore due to the massive zergs
• i cant play the TP becuz every item is almost at vendor price.
• did i forget something [input here]
  
  I think most ppl saying the reward is not rewarding enough are using the wrong word.
  Cuz atm ppl saying you need to play for fun dont understand that the issue issent all about the loot. It is about the a steady income of currency that is lacking in this game and the massive amounts of time and gold sinks put in to discourage this.

If they atliest would buff the rewards or lower the costs ppl would atliest have some incentive to stop complaining, cuz i can’t do kitten when am broke i can’t even vent my frustration on /m due to anti spamming code.
Imo there to many limiting Factors in gw2

And if anyone knows what is FUN and dosen’t require gold or a huge amount of time
plz let me know, cuz am at a lose here.

I think most ppl saying the reward is not rewarding enough are using the wrong word.
Cuz atm ppl saying you need to play for fun dont understand that the issue issent all about the loot. It is about the a steady income of currency that is lacking in this game and the massive amounts of time and gold sinks.

My lvl 80 ranger is pretty much on hold since there is no incentive to do anything in this game cuz the income from [input activity] issent rewarding enough for the time and cost investment put in.

• i cant craft cuz there is no relible income for gold → TP
• i cant farm for crafting due to the anti farming code
• orange karma gear is around 42k per piece wtf???
• i cant run dungeons cuz they drop only blue’s and green’s and very sometimes a yellow
• i cant farm dungeon gold due to anti farming code
• i cant farm for dungeon gear due to the 13k tokens needed to get a full set
• i cant farm dungeons cuz there to time consuming for the reward given, loot as intellectual rewarding wise.
• events are also not a reliable source of income anymore due to the massive zergs
• i cant play the TP becuz every item is almost at vendor price.
• did i forget something [input here]

So if anyone knows what is FUN and dosen’t require gold or a huge amount of time
plz let me know, cuz am at a lose here.

How is this game not a grind?
Everything costs money, karma or dungeon tokens.

I enjoyed the game very much at first but now it starting to frustrate me
I loved lvling my ranger but now with everything f*** up i don’t have any reason
To keep playing while this game has so much potential it has more flaws then goods that
Completely destroy all the fun things left to do.

• i cant craft cuz there is no relible income for gold -> TP
• i cant farm for crafting due to the anti farming code
• orange karma gear is around 42k per piece wtf???
• i cant run dungeons cuz they drop only blue’s and green’s and very sometimes a yellow
• i cant farm dungeon gold due to anti farming code
• i cant farm for dungeon gear due to the 13k tokens needed to get a full set
• i cant farm dungeons cuz there to time consuming for the reward given, loot as intellectual rewarding wise.
• events are also not a reliable source of income anymore due to the massive zergs
• i cant play the TP becuz every item is almost at vendor price.
• did i forget something [input here]

srsly its like Anet is saying we got your money, we don’t want you to keep playing.
Run along now. But dont forget to buy our x-pack where we state everything is fixed.

If they atliest would buff the rewards or lower the costs ppl would atliest have some incentive to keep playing, cuz i can’t do kitten when am broke i can’t even vent my frustration on /m due to anti spamming code.

Imo there to many limiting Factors in gw2

Durzlla.6295:

It amazes me how petty you people are, “oh the rewards aren’t good enough!!” my god do you not just play a game for fun?

And what about the intellectual reward?
Shouldent you also be somewhat be funded for the efforts you have put in
and the deaths you had. You spend 40 min inside a dungeon and come out with only 35 silver mby 50silver if your lucky and ~25 tokens all the while your friend was farming DE and earned 70silver in the same time and is able to buy his orange’s from the TP instead
so basicly you are falling behind becuz you enjoy to do dungeons where is the logic in that? The reward should be equal for both.

Durzlla.6295:

Komatik.2078:

I will certainly get Halo 4, Disshonerd and grab the Dark souls DLC be playing them.
As it seems to go now i probbably wont look back at this game cuz the time investment and reward ratio has some issues, Its just not worth it for a cassual.

I dont mind failing 1000 times but i do mind failing 1000 times and be rewarded for only 15 tokens 35 silver

It’s funny how you’re complaining about not being awarded enough for your failure…. Yet you’re going to play demon/dark souls where you will die significantly more and be rewarded significantly less…

Logic, who needs it right?

I already finished it am going to buy the DLC
becuz i like the difficulty and the intellectual reward yes you can still be intellectualy rewarded for failing becuz you will learn everytime something new about that place or boss you couldent get through at first.
Dark souls is a hard game but it issent unfair when something is hard or you fail its your fault but GW2 dungeons are unffair atm there is no intelligence requerd besides dodge at the right time and apply as many dots possible to get some movement in that health bar oh i almost forgot and circle strafe -_-

example

Darksouls: trash mobs can hit increadbly hard or ar increadbly fast not both, both have reasonable health pools. some have much larger HP then others but there is always a strategie, a weapon, a weak spot or something this issent the case for GW2 mobs.
GW2: undead in Arah hit increadbly hard are increadbly fast and have vast amount of health.
Darksouls: trash mobs requeire strategie and planning
GW2: kiting in a circle for 3 min and you only got 1 down out of 10

Darksouls Boss: requeire strategie and planning.
GW2 Boss: circle strafing and watching the healthbar slowly move

I complain they have upped the unfair difficulty not the challenge cuz we all now
there is not much challenge about them there is a big difference in these 2 words.

I will certainly get Halo 4, Disshonerd and grab the Dark souls DLC be playing them.
As it seems to go now i probbably wont look back at this game cuz the time investment and reward ratio has some issues, Its just not worth it for a cassual.

I dont mind failing 1000 times but i do mind failing 1000 times and be rewarded for only 15 tokens 35 silver

Hmm let me tell you why some people will do them. For fun. Yup thats right. My static and I would do these explore modes even if there were 0 reward. Why? because of the challenge. Unlike the WoW generation that has taken over the MMo industry, people used to do things without having to be bribed with loot.
The game isn’t broken. Your thinking is.

So your saying that killing mobs with massive health pools wich almost seem to be suited for a boss battle wave after wave just in a diffrent room of that dungeon is fun??
And to top it all of spending 40 min inside an explorable dungeon to only recieve mby around 30 to 50silver if you vendor your blue’s and green’s While you could go outside of the dungeon do DE and earn the same, cuz be honest if you just do it for FUN and dont earn any money you wont be playing long for only the FUN since you lost time and gold you could have earned doing something els and your broke becuz of the repair costs.

Dont get me wrong i have a Darksoul history and that game is hard and made me run content over and over and over again just to make some proggress and it was fun failing in that game becuz the REWARD that fuilled your continuity in to the game was equel to its difficulty wich made me keep playing

Dekster.2104:

Yes have a look i might have done something wrong ill add a screenshot. It is in dutch but i think you will understand it.

Your settings are correct, however did you put the data
in the correct profile, it should be the one bold out?
If this is correct try the next step a bit below.

screenshot!

Senryu.3268:

ok, after putting the avg firewall off, the TP was back, but i’ve already got that firewall rule set on, since i had to do it just to play the game, ’cause avg firewall was even preventing the game to load

I had the exact same issue during beta and since then AVG released a major update,
without knowing it would reset all my profiles to default, i would re-check that first.
If the problem persist i would suggest the following.

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will get through this eventualy, so dont give up
unfortuantly i can not recreate the problem, cuz ive already cleared my DNS cache
But lets hope it works

background explanation
The TP is loaded into the game client throug a website and it is possible for DNS servers to cache the results of unsuccessful names(url) attempts; this is called negative caching. My theory is that throug unsuccessful attempts you haved stored a negative caching of the TP url to clear this you need to flush your DNS .

Win 7

1. open windows start icon
2. type in the search bar below cmd
3. a black window will appear (windows comand promt)
4. in this window you type: ipconfig /flushdns
5. and you can now close the window

• optional: If it stil dosent work try to delete local.dat first then repeat the procces
  clearing the DNS cache and restart the client.

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Mods can we plz have a sepereat thread for the blank TP issue cuz
2 very diffrent issues combined in one thread is highly inefficient for searching for possible solutions. Alot of ppl will not even notice the solution when its hidden between 15 comments and 19 pages about missing gold/ items when there are only 3 solutions for the blank TP atm,

ty and with regards Komatik.

Dekster.2104:

Good news! you indeed found the solution to my problem it did turn out to be the AVG firewall thanks for that.

However adding the new rule did NOT work. Like you suggested i turned off AVG firewall and enabled the windows firewall and this DID work for me.

I will keep things like this for a while until a better fix for the AVG firewall problem is presented.

Thanks again Komatik you have been a great help.

Your welcome, glad that i could be of assistance.
Did you dubble check if AVG saved the new rule? It took me 2 times before
it saved it.

skagrin.1368:

Hi,

1. Download this file from the MS Update Servers
(remember the download path)

http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/rootsupd.exe

2. Open CMD prompt in Windows, change to the folder where the file is (e.g. cd c:\temp) and enter this to run it: rootsupd.exe /Q

I tried anything else before but after this the trading post worked immediately.

Hope that helps
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My discovery
I tried this and deleting the local.dat file,
checked if my windows has auto update on, cleared my dns cache, i also checked my router should it block the TP and gemstore ip (since its browser based).

The whole time i was searching what was blocking the TP so i turned off my firewall, logged back in to the game and Gemstore/ TP where visible again but ofc this wasent the way i would like to play.
So I tried to recreate the problem by turning my firewall back on and as i susspected its a firewall issue atleast for me.

The solution
As most lurking this thread for a possible solution i would suggest turning off your firewall and see if it fixes anything if so and your using AVG security try this.

However i dont know how to fix this for other internet security software but am pretty sure it its the same method just a diffrent way to get there depending on your program.

1. open AVG firewall
2. click firewall settings
3. a pop-up will appear and click this time sytem services in the active profile
4. Click the Manage User System Rules
5. click add rule
6. another pop-up will appear and input from top to bottom

• TCP
• out
• Unrestricted ports (1024-65535)
• remote port(s) 80,6112,6600
• All Networks (Allow for All)
• choose a name click ok
• the pop-up will disappear and on the previous window/ pop-up click confirm
• Edit: dubble check if it saved the rule by repeating the process

or check here for a more detailed solution here

if this dose not work try one of the other methods written in this thread.
but am pretty sure now that the majority of the problem is a security software(firewall) or a router based.

Mabey one last solution if its a firewall issue and you dont know how to do any of this,
is to use the windows firewall instead of your normal one, its as good as a firewall as any other you usually use.