Guild Wars 2

She slew a Sylvari and made an amulet out of it’s wood. This clearly acted as a shield. Clearly. But seriously, that’d be pretty dark, yeah? Slaughter the sylvari, wear their flesh and be saved from their draconic powers?

I think she simply means everyone is capable of learning magic. Even the highest ranking Charr. They just don’t, either because they distrust magic, or because they enjoy feel of a sword or bow in their hand. So, just like any mage could have learned to use a sword but chose magic, any archer could have learned magic instead. But for any number of reasons, personal, cultural, or were forced into it by family, they didn’t choose those alternatives. I could be wrong, though.

Also, I should say thanks, to Regina and Angel both, for taking the time to reply. I’m glad to see some discussion here on the side of the devs, and would love to see even more(though I recognize you’re all very busy). It’s always nice to have the creators participate in the discussion, debates(Who gets Orr, for example.), and the like.

The clear answer to who gets Orr is the Skriit, obviously. It took an entire army of Sylvari, Asura, Charr, Humans, and Norn. However, the Skriit only need Chhk the Windmill King!

HO AND BEHOLD! THE WINDMILL KING WISHES TO FIGHT A DRAGON!

Also, you didn’t really fight a dragon. You were only bewitched by a foul Magpie.
Skriit for next playable race!

The Chhk The Windmill King will kill all the dragons. Skriit for next playable race!

After reading the short story, does the SAB feel more like a cursed sword that was forged by a angry, or hateful blacksmith, more than Technological genius? I mean, it was perfect when he turned it on. To perfect, even. States that he didn’t remember polishing up any of the characters, but the princess’ model was polished. I’m not saying that he couldn’t have done it, but the dopelganger at the end feels more like this technological genius was more a creation of the rage, anger, and pride that he’d thrown into it’s making.

I don’t know if I should still be posting thoughts and questions about magic here, or a new post, but…

So, a random thought struck me earlier today, or yesterday according to the clock, while pondering magitech of the Asura. We know how the humans classify the four schools, but how do the Asura? Do they even have a Preservation Magic? Would a bed-chamber meant to speed up the healing process use Preservation Magic? Or do the Asura even follow our rules? Could an Asura be capable of using whatever school of magic they wish, simply because the idea of a bloodstone would be foreign to them? I mean, what if that’s how it worked. The bloodstones don’t actually limit you, the idea was just put into the heads of the surface dwellers. Power of suggestion style. Or do the Asura even use a school of magic at all? Do they instead “program,” so to speak raw magic

Also, another idea that struck me was, maybe the idea that we’ve thrown off the shackles of the bloodstones wasn’t so much /I/ can use either denial or preservation. But /you/ could use Denial and I could use Preservation, and blend it together by using it together. Hence: Skill Combos. This idea is supported, I feel, by the fact that the bloodstones were once whole. And the schools kind of blend anyways. However, a counter point that a friend raised was that, if this was what they meant, why am I able to combo my Mesmer’s staff combo field and combo finisher to grant myself chaos armor? My opinion is that, if I can combine my spells with yous, then surely my own spells could combine with each other? But I wanted to throw the point here just to hear what you guys thought.

The lore is the same as any other competition. You, and a team of others, are going up against others to put your skills to the test. Or at least that’s what I understand it to be. Also, why are we arguing about why he /needs/ the lore. Instead of just answering his original question?

Thanks for the response, Konig! Though, to clarify. I never meant to say that you could use all four at once. I just meant to say, maybe it was possible to learn to use multiple ones, either one at a time, or in a meld. Though according to information given, it seems that the schools blend in a sense, so what I thought was two schools really /is/ just one. One other class I’d like to point to, and maybe there’s an explanation for it. But, Elementals can use water to heal, and also kill with fire, though never both at the same time. Are they possibly trained in both aggression and preservation?
Edit: Would the Guardian’s Scepter skill Chains of Light(immobilize) be a Denial spell?

But my question still kind of stands. Is it possible that now that people have developed their magical abilities more and more, that eventually they learned to draw upon magic with fewer restrictions? And something else I was curious about, when you draw magic out of the blood-stone(I assume that’s how it works?) does it go back into the stone after it’s used? Or does it just kind of float around the atmosphere? I don’t think it’s consumed by your spells, ‘cause the Asura mentioned in the personal story that magic is never consumed. I forget the exact explanation, though. And that’s why they had a hard time believing that dragons actually consume magic.

Also, out of curiosity. She says that Charr learn magic in the Fahrars. A friend of mine argues that that’s completely against the lore, with Charr hating magic. So my question is, would Charr teach magic in the Fahrars, simply out of respect for the fact that it’s useful? (Even if they’re still gonna treat you like Ash-Trash?)

@Draxynnic

But could the limitation to one bloodstone actually be just a figment of the imagination? Like, could that not be a ret-con so much as, it was just a lack of understanding how magic truly worked? And in reality, they /could/ draw on multiple stones, though admittedly, something like the Aggression school would be difficult to draw on if one was predisposed to being gentle and pacifistic. But could it be possible, sense ultimately they /were/ one stone before? And it just took several generations to learn how to properly harness it?

I just realized something. About magic. So, from what I understand, and correct me if I’m wrong. There were four blood stones(originally one) and they were Preservation, Denial, Aggression, and Destruction. And a person could only draw from one stone, correct? Do we know why they drew from that one stone? Were they born with some sort of mark for aggression, or did they just have aggressive tendencies. Like, they were, as a person, aggressive.

If my hypothesis is correct,(yes I used hypothesis instead of idea ‘cause it makes me sound smarter, and Asura race is best race) then, it /was/ humans just limiting their magic subconsciously. They were an aggressive person, and drew on aggression magic. But what if they realized this in the past 250 years, was it? And are now able to kind of get into the mind set of not being so single minded? For example, a guardian appears to be using(if I understand magic right) both Denial /and/ Preservation magic. And a warrior appears to be using aggression magic. Or at least I assume they’re using magic when BEHOLD THE FLAMING ARROWS OF BALTHAZAR! So, while the blood stones are still a thing, races have just learned to mitigate, to some extent, the effect of the sundering.

Now, this doesn’t mean your magic is limitless. I imagine using denial and preservation together would only work if synced up, or at least used separately(use denial, and /then/ preservation). However, if you tried to use Destruction and Preservation together, I imagine the magic, or the blood stones would lock up. Like an Airbender using Earthbending, as a friend put it. (Nerd levels RISIIIIING!!1!ONE!), but if you used denial and preservation in just the right way, it could be like using Airbending and Waterbending together, (‘cause wind creates waves? Anyone? No? .-. Okay). So, in the guardian’s case, his sole purpose is to protect himself and his allies, so he’s able to draw on both, using them in a way that they do sync up. However, if he tried to use denial to harm, while using preservation to heal, it’d jam up.

Thoughts?

McCoy does seem to have her GW1 lore a bit off base. Have we gotten any word from Ree or the other guy the people on the forums were hoping to hear a response/followup from? Also, if there’s an over-arching mesmer organization, I’d love to know. It pertains to one of my favorite classes, and what she says hints at that. And not only would that be important information for RPing a Mesmer(and I do hope to possibly RP on here at some point, though the friends I wanted to RP with left because of the Lore issues) but it would also be friggen cool. I’d be part of a psychic organization!

Thanks! So it’s even more believable that the blood stones aren’t really all we’ve cracked them up to be. And if he didn’t create magic, who did? I’ve heard Seers but I’ve yet to look them up. And could the blood stones have been leaking back to the dragons? I believe the bloodstones were made to hold magic, and I think I read somewhere about it being an attempt to either control the magic that Abaddon gave to the masses, or to hide from the dragons. If the later is true, could shattering the stone into multiple pieces have been what let it just pour out into the world over time? And thus wake up the dragons?

Just thought I’d throw this in here. And just to get out ahead of time, I’m new to Guild Wars and such, but I know a touch of the lore. And on the subject of Magic, I was thinking. We know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Abaddon created magic, right? And then there’s these dragons from before the age of gods or something that eat magic.

My theory is this: We know the Jotun were a magical race sense before the gods. So, perhaps there has always been magic. And Abaddon’s gift was limitless magic that would never be eaten up by a dragon, and that one did not need to study to use but could be used at will. Perhaps Abaddon’s magic, the blood magic, and the magic of the Elder Dragons are different. And now that Tyria is flooded with natural magic, they don’t need the now limited magic of their ancestors, and have begun to shift. Others have mentioned that the Guardian is a combination of Denial and Preservation, as well as a third? And that the Ele is a destruction mage. Perhaps they’re not using the bloodstones, and have adjusted as such, but an inkling still remains? Thoughts, opinions?