I find that these two abilities have too much of a “studder” to them and are often breaking up fluid movement and fighting. This might of course be the general intent behind making hammer#2 stop for 1/4sec before leaping 300range (the stop together with the short range renders it pretty much useless as a gap-closer) and the skill root of #5 (makes it really hard to use efficiency in a chase/kite situation). I saw that warriors got a fix to their hammer root equivalent and started wondering if a-net simply overlooked the guardian one.
I might be asking for the impossible here, but my suggestion is to fix #2 and #5 to make hammer even more of a guardian weapon, which makes sense imo.
If you decided to make FSP before the update then you were obviously satisfied with the skin. I’ve had FSP since January and I can say that it is already an epic shield.
You apparently forget that its the only legendary shield in the game, some people want the legendary achievement. Some people chose it for its link to the guildwars 1 lore. Again, i respect your opinion, its your lack of reflective understanding for other view’s im unhappy with.
How about when it comes to software that gets released in one year and a new version comes around? You don’t get free upgrades.
You don’t get a free upgrade from Word 2007 to Word 2010. Nor do you get a free upgrade from Cubase 6 to Cubase 7.
You committed to purchasing an item that time because you were enticed by it’s current features.
And now that there is a no version, you think it’s fair to go to the company and demand your version gets free upgrades as well? Well at what point does this stop? What if I had Cubase 1. Could I demand upgrades each time they had new editions, all the way to Cubase 7? It’s unfeasible.
This is the purpose of this thread— FSP didn’t get upgraded to the same specifications of most of the current legendary weapons. Therefore creating aggravated players. Some players would just simply leave the game. Others who feel very very passionate about their progress would demand answers, post petitions, rally others who share similar views, and go to the very extreme to set things straight.
If I were to speculate with my handy dandy tinfoil hat, I’d say that the artist who designed the Flameseeker Prophecies shield must be a very defensive person in an artistic sense. He/she probably said, “you touch my shield and I’m quitting my job!” and that person is probably much higher up in the corporate chain. This is probably a person that doesn’t appreciate artistic derivatives very well, even those made from his/her fellow co-workers. If that’s the case, then I’d have to say that he/she shouldn’t be part of a company that can and will take their own artwork and transform it into a different style to fit the atmosphere of the game. I hate to see this person’s face if Anet decides to make 8-bit derivatives of their current legendary weapons to be available to those who religiously play the SAB component of the game.
That’s your subjective opinion vs the art team. In the update preview with Lindsey she said that they sat with the art team and reviewed all legendaries, and decided that some were already up to par with legendary status while some were not. And they updated those that were not.
And I agree that FSP is up to par. It has a very bright shine to it (similar to cobalt), with a haze surrounding the edges of the shield. AND it has pages turning when unsheathed.
What more do you want? white footfalls? Oh how about a book trailing as an additional footfall? How about a reflective skin just like juggernaut? Maybe graphical effects when you attack?
I’d like that too but we can go on and on and pimp out this one legendary to the point that Sunrise and Twilight holders reek of jealousy. Be reasonable here.
Seriously, I did not hear many complaints about FSP before the update. The only complain I know of is the annoying effect of guardian’s aegis on blocking the pages.
But hey, it’s all subjective, so we’ll just keep going in circles.
You are constantly enduldging in methods to riddicule what people in this thread are saying. I hope youre not just involving yourself out of some pathologic need to debate everything you hear. If so im sorry you are not able to find anything better to do. No one have ever said that we demand footfalls, or the reflective effects from juggernaught. Would you please just listen? In our opinion something is lacking in the FSP’s ledgendary appearance, at least when out of combat. As ive earlier posted its just about something small, maybee something like a subtile pulsing glow around the shield or maybee the character.
Now Vol, we have heard your opinons on this, you obviously think the FSP is good as is and i respect your right to speak out in the community. Its the matter of how, you show no understanding of other view’s. You deliberately riddicule the opinions of the majority of participants in the thread. Check out the poll posted earlier, you sir, are outnumbered.
If you decided to make FSP before the update then you were obviously satisfied with the skin. I’ve had FSP since January and I can say thakittenis already an epic shield.
I was satisfied at the time … things have changed. Preferences change. When one thing changes, then everything that seems remotely related should change along with it. When something gets left behind, many things associated usually doesn’t sit well.
It’s kind of like an old piece of work that satisfied your tastes back then. I could say five years ago I was a big fan of J-Pop music … today, I rarely ever listen to J-Pop music.
Back to the scope of this game— I cycle through four different armor sets. Sure they have the same stats on them, but if I’m not satisfied with that set, I piece together another set and wear it.
Don’t make me spew examples because it would go way beyond the scope of this thread.
A more appropriate analogy is buying the 2014 Porsche today with state of the art features ABC. You bought it because you were satisfied. And then a year later you see the 2015 Porsche come out with even better features DEF and you are suddenly kitten ed off that you don’t have them. And you demand a free upgrade when it should not be expected.
sorry, I had to ;3
Ehm, i think your analogy is lacking as well. Cars and other physical things don’t translate properly when we are talking about digital assets. The proper way to parallel this is to compare it to you buying/investing time into one of say 10 different digital products from the same maker that are advertised as being equally good. The product you chose is at that time equal to the other products. Then 6 months later the maker of all said products announces that these will be updated. You naturally think this includes the one you chose to. No, your product is the only one that is no longer equal to the others. This is not ok imo.
In your Porche analogy you are the owner of a physical product that cant be “updated”.
sry, had to because you are hurting our case by Reductio ad absurdum.
PS. edited to say that i am going to continue to bump this. A-net owes this subject attention and us players an explanation.
Fine, you want to talk about digital products?
How about when it comes to software that gets released in one year and a new version comes around? You don’t get free upgrades.
You don’t get a free upgrade from Word 2007 to Word 2010. Nor do you get a free upgrade from Cubase 6 to Cubase 7.
You committed to purchasing an item that time because you were enticed by it’s current features.
And now that there is a no version, you think it’s fair to go to the company and demand your version gets free upgrades as well? Well at what point does this stop? What if I had Cubase 1. Could I demand upgrades each time they had new editions, all the way to Cubase 7? It’s unfeasible.
You are really not getting it, your whole argumentation bears a tone of crude defensiveness. This is not about analogies, its about (like soooo many have explained in this thread, read up pls) the legendary status being raised for all other legendary weapons, but two, the FSB and the minstrel.
If you decided to make FSP before the update then you were obviously satisfied with the skin. I’ve had FSP since January and I can say that it is already an epic shield.
I was satisfied at the time … things have changed. Preferences change. When one thing changes, then everything that seems remotely related should change along with it. When something gets left behind, many things associated usually doesn’t sit well.
It’s kind of like an old piece of work that satisfied your tastes back then. I could say five years ago I was a big fan of J-Pop music … today, I rarely ever listen to J-Pop music.
Back to the scope of this game— I cycle through four different armor sets. Sure they have the same stats on them, but if I’m not satisfied with that set, I piece together another set and wear it.
Don’t make me spew examples because it would go way beyond the scope of this thread.
A more appropriate analogy is buying the 2014 Porsche today with state of the art features ABC. You bought it because you were satisfied. And then a year later you see the 2015 Porsche come out with even better features DEF and you are suddenly kitten ed off that you don’t have them. And you demand a free upgrade when it should not be expected.
sorry, I had to ;3
Ehm, i think your analogy is lacking as well. Cars and other physical things don’t translate properly when we are talking about digital assets. The proper way to parallel this is to compare it to you buying/investing time into one of say 10 different digital products from the same maker that are advertised as being equally good. The product you chose is at that time equal to the other products. Then 6 months later the maker of all said products announces that these will be updated. You naturally think this includes the one you chose to. No, your product is the only one that is no longer equal to the others. This is not ok imo.
In your Porche analogy you are the owner of a physical product that cant be “updated”.
sry, had to because you are hurting our case by Reductio ad absurdum.
PS. edited to say that i am going to continue to bump this. A-net owes this subject attention and us players an explanation.
I think its quite obvious that the people that have voiced against us in this thread are seeing this as a strictly pragmatic issue, where everything is based upon logic and principled views. Y u no buy another legendary? Y u caring about a shield in a game? This isn’t a pragmatic issue, it’s a massively multiplayer online roleplaing game. Its not supposed to be logical, no one would use hours in this game if it was all about logic. Pls go use ur logic on minecraft or chess, i think your superior mindpower would be better utilized there. Leave us alone with our illogical love for beautiful design and mesmerizing detals. You just dont get it, thats all.
Best of luck. Not how I’d prioritize limited artist-time in this game, but maybe you’re persuading them.
A-net is unwilling to grant the only legendary shield in the game the same amount of time they have granted the other legendary weapons? This is about what imo is an unfinished piece of design. Therefore i think its only fair that “limited artist time” is given to FSP’s out of combat features. The ghastly grinning shield is an exotic!!! And frankly looks more legendary out of combat because of the smoke effects.
Secondly, ive read that some people dont understand why we chose a shield that we are so unhappy with. My response to that is that a legendary piece of equipment is an achievement of its own, the FSP is the ONLY legendary shield. And later news about legendary out of combat stat-swapping is perfect for different on-the-fly ajustments in fractals, dungeons and so forth. This makes us able to use the legendary weapons more often and makes them even more of a “must have”.
Arena-net should really reconsider the choise they made to not update the FSP. This is as was said earlier a slap in the face to all of us that really wanted the FSP to shine on par, but in its own way, with the other legendary weapons.
I also think the FSP looks great WHEN WIELDED… It does not however on the back, out of combat. The aegis effect ruines the little bit of particle design attention the FSP actually got (pages of tome turning, glowing, looks awesome). Pls! A-net, fix it and let FSP stand out on par with the other legendary weapons, but in its own way. (maybee a pulsing glow around char?).
Holy.. so Bifrost even gets a nice projectile, the dreamer now not only shoots ponies, but it has big hoofy footprints to go along with. Footfalls generally got bigger. We get nothing, because we’re ‘fine as is’, while we lack any of the features that characterize the other legendaries. I wish ArenaNet would at least respond to this. My legendary feels like everything but legendary.
Just a thought, there are some articles that states proximity as the most important factor in aggro mechanics. What if lupi pics his target from who stood closest to him in the first phase? This would give us a logical answer to why he seemingly tunnelvisions in p2 and not so much in p3. Maybee this simply has to do with aggro deteriorating over time. Maybee Lupi is switching targets because the initial aggro buildup from p1 is getting shifted in p2/p3. Im trying this out and i would love if others did aswell and posted findings after.
It is faster but mobility plays a large role here. Against a Ranger using a longbow at under 500 range and both the Ranger and the Guardian spamming the number one button the Ranger will invariably win. At that range the Guardian should be doing more damage (394 versus 302) but such is not the case as the arrows will hit more often then the orb due to the higher mobility of the Ranger versus the Guardian. Chains of Light or scepter 3 would help this issue but more often then not mobs and enemies just continue moving when “Chains” is applied.
True, if u don’t account for the pet who most likely will do more dmg than 92 right? I’m not complaining about the different kit each class possesses though, i just think that the Scepter #1 is almost useless with the orb speed they have given it now, ofc some mitigation of dmg is to be expected, that’s just a thing guardians need to figure into their play style. Its just that as it is right now, the orbs are WAY to easy to handle for an opponent with more than 10 hours experience in GW2. IMO ofc!
They made it faster in the last update. IDK what you’re complaining about
Maybee I didnt make myself clear, its still to slow IMO. And it wouldn’t hurt you to put in some numbers when you answer in forums. Instead of answering with an obvious downward tone. Not very helpful.
Its been some time since ive seen any comments surrounding this topic. What is the deal Anet? why does guardians have to be the only class with useless PvP ranged ability? Thats not to say that i think we don’t loose DPS in PvE fights, not at all. If the mob or player moves even a little bit in the about 2 seconds it takes the orbs to reach them at max distance, they have mitigated ALL the damage from the guardians autoattack. Please Anet, fix this. Please make the orbs faster. Guardians really need some raged capability in situations were melee isn’t possible. Like in WvWvW when attacking fortifications or in phases of different bossfights where standing in melee simply is suicide.
