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Am I really seeing this?
Two months ago:
“Orr sucks I hate Orr! Terrible place. So many Risen ugh!”Present day:
“I miss Orr, the content is good with multiple people, where did the game I love go??”
Not so much too many risen as it is the respawn times. Loved questing in Orr. I play the game to explore. Unfortunately on the server where I am at, taking the temples is nigh impossible
No, giving up the game is entirely shelving it.
For varying definitions of “shelving”, I take it? :P
Giving up the game is giving up the game, whether temporarily or otherwise. Your reasoning is your own and you’re welcome to it, but “quitting” is pretty black and white. I’ve quit lots of games that I came back to, but I still call it “quitting” because that’s what it was.
Just a matter of perception on the person viewing the action.
Don’t know about you but i logged in several times to see patches being installed and the fact that there are several patch notes in the forums proves me right.
Was referring to the comment you made that “one might say many people quit because of the patch”, not to the fact that there have been multiple patches.
The flood of complaints all center around one patch, ergo that’s the only one I’m talking about.
My apologies then.
And it’s I said: People are establishing a false cause-and-effect. The number of people who quit solely for that reason is much smaller than people want it to seem. Most of the folks who left are the locusts, the sort who were going to leave eventually anyways. SWTOR’s plunge, as well as every other MMO’s plunge, can be attributed to this.
I agree and i mentioned in my original post, I speak for myself and not for others
I did not give up the game; I gave up playing the game until some point that my playstyle is feasible again.
So you gave up the game.
No, giving up the game is entirely shelving it.
Really it doesn’t matter whether it’s “temporary” or “permanent”, the fact remains that a single patch somehow convinced you that the game was no longer worth playing, and you refuse to play until it is removed.
never did I say hat they had to remove the patch; some people enjoy it. I merely said I will play when there is something added that fits my style of play makes it fun for me to play again.It has been one CONTENT patch. (one I might say that has caused many people to quit the game completely or as I have, temporarily). There have been several patches to the game.
One might say that, but one might be wrong.
Don’t know about you but i logged in several times to see patches being installed and the fact that there are several patch notes in the forums proves me right.The fact of the matter is that every MMO on the market experiences a significant dropoff in players after their first month or so. Even WoW, after the magical panda expansion came out, has gone down significantly from their post-expansion peak.
People are establishing a false cause-and-effect relationship, trying to claim that the game is losing players because of something they personally do not like, rather than because it’s an MMO and it’s something that happens to all MMOs everywhere.
I agreeYour playstyle and the playstyles of other players is not the same. What affects my playstyle and your playstyle are two different things. You can never compare how another player feels about something to the way you do.
Technically you can. Just because opinions vary doesn’t mean they can’t be reasonably analyzed to see which one is closer to a basis of reality and which is not.
A lot of the opinions my parents share, for example, are based on very faulty information and personal biases. It’s entirely fair to claim that their opinions, by that token, deserve less regard than those of people whose opinions are better informed. Which is why I don’t mind educated and thoughtful debate about ascended items (which, I repeat, I actually do not like) and the patch in general.
Agreed but one person’s reality might just be another person’s dream otherwise you see things one way another sees it entirely different.
What I don’t approve of are those who assume an extremist stance of “if you’re not quitting the game, then you’re a blind sheep who will support ANet regardless of what they do”. After all, only Sith deal in absolutes.Not everyone who complains is a child. I myself am a grandfather.
There’s a difference between being a child and acting like one. A lot of the folks who are complaining about this patch tend to fall into the latter position. Props, however, for being mature in your replies thus far.
Thank you and to you as well.
You’ll still be playing this game even though you are saying that you are leaving, i’ve seen this so many times.
Nope, read the forums though and occasionally log in to see what is happening but play…no
“And I love how expressing an opinion other than “waaaaaah, I didn’t get what I want in the last patch, I quit this game forever” is instantly considered a fanboy stance, rather than the rational stance of an adult who is sick of dealing with children.”
btw I am a grandfather, so not everyone who complains is a kid.
Why look down on a player that doesn’t swallow whatever he gets stuffed with, out of whichever hole it comes, but resists and makes his point? He paid for the game in a certain state, not for a 180° turn to get cashcowed sooner or later.
Because if that player was willing to give the game up after only one patch (and yes, it is only one patch) that has only one thing they don’t like, then he wasn’t nearly as dedicated to the game as he wants to claim he was.
I did not give up the game; I gave up playing the game until some point that my playstyle is feasible again. It has been one CONTENT patch. (one I might say that has caused many people to quit the game completely or as I have, temporarily). There have been several patches to the game. I was once dedicated to smoking but gave that up, that doesn’t stop others from smoking. I am dedicated to the brand (played GW1 from day 1) not how the brand is being represented now, but I know that know that will change.
I find it interesting that you’re spinning my stance to the extreme, trying to assert that if anyone who didn’t instantly quit the game because of ascended items is just blindly accepting everything that happens to them and their game. It only takes a single step backwards and a tiny bit of perspective to see how ridiculous that stance really is. A few back items and rings have absolutely destroyed the metagame? Really? I don’t think so.
Mind, I’m not happy with ascended items either, in fact I hate them. But I’m not going to quit a game I enjoy over one aspect of gameplay that has yet to affect me in any significant manner. Instead, I’m going to do what any sane, rational person would do: complain about it in a constructive and reasonable manner, which in turn will create a proper dialogue with the devs about what we think needs to be fixed. “This game sux, I quit” doesn’t open a dialogue, it’s holding the dev team for ransom, and that almost never ends well for either the devs or the players. I’d rather try to fix things than pretend that I can hold the game hostage. Boycotting and quitting never, ever works. But complaining, especially when it’s loud complaining, does.
Your playstyle and the playstyles of other players is not the same. What affects my playstyle and your playstyle are two different things. You can never compare how another player feels about something to the way you do.
ANet isn’t composed entirely of EA executives, they DO actually listen and they’d probably agree with some of our sentiments if you took the time to express them in a reasonable tone of voice instead of flailing your arms around like a child in mid-tantrum.
So when all of these “absurdly fickle” people leave and your bugged game is forced to merge servers, is that still going to be a “win”?
Frankly? Yes. It’ll still be a win, because I’ll still be enjoying the game I paid for, and you’ll be off whining somewhere else.
I can’t imagine a bigger win than than.
I would love to see server merges.
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I agree, companions would be great to have again.
If the posts are removed there is nothing I can do about it. As long they read my original post before it is removed, I am happy.
Not game of the year material in my opinion.
As far as I know deletes are instant.. you just press delete.. and then you have to fill in the name of the character to confirm. so I am not sure what you are talking about. It also doesn’t take 7 days to switch servers.. :P
Tell you what, go switch servers then come back and post again when you are back on your original server.
On top of this they started nerfing the players ability to make gold in the game. I am not ignorant mind you, I know that some of the nerfing was to deal with the bot problem but a lot of it, in my opinion, was devised in a plot hatched by the corporate accountants to force the sell of gems.
This is a very bad argument.
Today, for someone to buy Mjolnir using gems, it would cost more or less one thousand dollars. How much more do you think that item would sell if it cost 20 dollars?
The reason why farming has been nerfed – as it should be – is in my signature. Farmers and grinders are complaining that grinding is unrewarding, but GW2 was from the beggining meant to not be a grindy game. If you bought GW2 to grind, you have the wrong game.
Not an argument, just my opinion through observation and if it the designers didn’t want grinding explain the fractal dungeon to me? Personally I despise grinding.
Never said I was leaving the game permanently. waiting until it gets fixed to what they said it would be. As of now, it is unplayable to me. i do not speak for other players.
Unfortunately the servers where i see that stuff is very much alive are full.
I waited since the announcement that Eye of the North was going to be the last expansion for GW1 and that GW2 was in the works. I waited patiently as ANET and NCSoft released bits and pieces of game news and progress.
I watched diligently as game-play video was released and the professions were introduced, even the April Fools commando. I watched the manifesto with high hopes. I thought to myself, "Finally an MMO I would be able to get into and not have to worry about
gear grinding, loot ninjas, finding a group for a dungeon or to play alongside when events popped up.
I pre-purchased the game and when the Beta became available, I jumped in with the happiness of a kid on Christmas day. I loved it, even though thee were obvious problems. Pre-purchase live day came. I logged in and proceeded on my merry little way. I was a little dismayed at the trade being down but I got over it. I put up with the disconnects, the glitches and other minor things knowing that they would be fixed. I told all my friends how great the game was to play. Sadly, most of them will never listen to me again.
I did not rush through the content, I explored and found things. I finally made it to Orr where huge groups of players were taking down the temples and destroying the risen. I was overjoyed. Like all games, there were those that rushed through the content and started griping about how there was nothing to do now. I merely laughed at them, unaware that some idiot content writer at Anet and NCSoft was paying attention to them and not to the players as a whole and that the accountants were plotting their next move in the corporate office.
Fractals came along. It was fun at first, huge amounts of people fighting against impossible odds. I loved it. Then the dungeon came along and brought gear grind with it. LFG spam for fractals invaded my peaceful chat. Orr became silent as players disappeared. I have no idea where they went, some went to the new dungeon to grind away for the new gear; others just went away disappointed at the manifesto being abandoned.
I tried paying in Orr, I would look for people but they were few and far between. I would attack a risen only to have four more yell “death good!” and attack along with my original target. By the time I killed the first three and am working on the fourth, numbers one and two are rezzed and back in the fray. I was overwhelmed and killed. After a week of this I logged out constantly. I looked around for people to do things with but for the most part they just weren’t there.
I was and am completely dismayed that Anet and NCsoft took a great game and screwed it up in one fell swoop. maybe had they placed the dungeon portal in Orr, it may not have been so bad. People would have had to fight to get to it but no they placed it in the easiest of places to get to; Lion’s Arch.
On top of this they started nerfing the players ability to make gold in the game. I am not ignorant mind you, I know that some of the nerfing was to deal with the bot problem but a lot of it, in my opinion, was devised in a plot hatched by the corporate accountants to force the sell of gems.
Plinx being nerfed is an excuse some players used to leave Orr but to tell the truth when ever I saw him out and about, easily 50% of the players there were afk or bots just hanging out there to rake in the gold. That could have easily been dealt with by placing a GM in the area to auto ban.
I miss the game I played at first and that has disappeared. I log in from time to time to see if anything has changed but almost immediately leave as I see the same old crap. I hope someday that someone in the offices of Anet and NCSoft will open their eyes and see how bad they screwed up and do something to fix it. Until then I will play other games and occasionally log in to GW2 to see if the game I love is being made into what it was promised to be.
Take care all.
Shouldn’t, but it does and is annoying as heck.
Idiots are dropping high level turrets in the middle of starting areas. You cannot kill anything or even get a hit off before the turret kills the creature.