Guild Wars 2

Hot Boy.7138:

I only run creative builds. And it’s fun. And it’s possible to play it very well. But you will have a difficult time fighting against most meta builds, even if you’re a better play than they are.

I ran a really awesome build during the last beta event. Of course, I got whispers telling me that my build sucks. It’s funny how society stresses individuality but really what people want is conformity, and ostracize you for not doing the norm.

Have fun. Use that creative build. Expect to have a hard time. Maybe in a future build your build will be the new meta. Who knows. Just have fun.

(only join groups with people who are chill for the best experience)

Thanks. I think this is what brings us, humans forward. Dare to experiment. The first one who invented the Meta build was experimented with it too. This is how others can have it now.

This would fall into the ‘not really the best choice, but not kick-worthy either’ category. The question of course is why do you need to be teleporting around the battlefield? This is PvE, walking works just about as well.

Reason: Teleport always gets you out of hot situations quickly when you ran out of dodges, or want to res an ally before he/she dies. Also comes handy at Mai when cannons unleashed. Also looks cool, but this is not important at the moment.
With the staff there is an extra one.

Basically I am concentrating damage when go melee with sword, and then teleport back with the staff when the situation is out of control, then put down the field, get maybe a shield, then switch back to swords, summon duelist, blind the enemy start fighting melee again. Also I have blink ready.
I found this very useful as I can go anywhere on the battlefield any time, do damage and get out quickly too.
If it is not that bad, I still can just stick to the sword and stay there melee range.
I am using mantra of resolve which still gives extra damage if I activate it. (trait)

The only thing which is really sucks is ranged. But if I need to face with a boss which need ranged, there is a GS in my bag, OOC I can switch anytime.
Is this that bad?

Your anecdote about ranger is pretty useless though. Soloing lupicus has less than nothing to do with how useful a particular class is in a dungeon, and everything to do with whether or not you know how to dodge. Regardless, intelligent rangers have been accepted in meta groups for a long time now. They do decent damage and bring spotter and frost spirit to significantly boost everyone else. Bearbows, on the other hand, still deserve an instant kick for being completely useless.

Ultimately, you’re completely wrong. Numbers are everything, once you get past controllable variables like player skill. Obviously, an incredibly skilled ranger will be better to have than an elementalist that just started the class yesterday, but using that as an example to say that rangers are just as good as elementalists is pure lunacy.

Ok, I realized what I said is not ok, as if everybody equally skilled meta wins. Yes, you right.

aaaaand where is the fun with these builds?
If I will meet a mesmer I will know he will have exactly the same skill/weaponset traits like me. I would like to stay at the borderline where you still doing good, but you can be a bit “unique and unusal”

Is +3-5% damage will make a huge difference?

Well, what I am talking about is not just about survivability.
Sacrificing some dps for better survivability and for some tricks this what I am talking about.
Ok, to understand I will write down what I mean.
Using sword/ pistol and a staff.
Still having zeker set with scholar runes and still using domination duelist and illusions.
Still dish out good damage with phantasms and sword melee, but when time comes be able to go defensive and teleport around the battlefield.
While I understand staff is not for power builds and goes better with condi damage, still gives a lot of boons and increases mobility a lot for me.
while I still know how to do the dungeon/ fractal etc. and contributing to the party in dps I am there to res and usually I am the last to go down.

Is this kind of gameplay will be rewarded with an “instant kick” or is this still acceptable by meta people?

Fay: There is a good reason why meta builds are meta. Most people need a build and they need something to grab. If everyone following the almighty meta, all the mesmers are the same. All the warriors, all the guardians etc. Might they are the most effective builds but I am telling you something. I have seen a year ago a hunter soloing Lupi, cos everyone was dead, and that person was so skilled, so good, he did not failed even once.

Yet the party at the beginning did not want to take him, because hunters are “not good” and they cannot contribute in the same way as for example a guardian.
That was before the reflect walls and feedback…
Numbers are not everything.

Hi,

I am a dungeon master and I take that very seriously:)
I love dungeons, I was always a big fan of them,, in all MMos.
The way how Anet made them was amazing, I loved how skilled you need to be, also a thinking person to complete it. You also need to have a relatively good team and work together.
I don`t want to bash Wow, but that was rather boring, have tank aggro the mobs and just dps everything to the black death.

Here on the other hand dungeons are creative, and fun. I completed all of them countless times, but still I don`t get bored.

Fractals are different, they need more time, they are more difficult and require more experience. (Mai for example)

So for me, dungeons were always a kind of pro- content, while fractals were the top (elite)-pro content.
I don`t want to get them changed (fractals to dungeons) and I don`t want them neglected as I was always rather a pve player than pvp.
If you look at the endgame pve content, this is it. Anet now saying won`t be more new dungeons, instead we will get a director`s cut shortened fractals with no real background, just like trailers of real dungeons? Well… probably this should not be the way to go for endgame.

Hi guys,

Nowadays everything just about meta builds.
What if a mesmer for example not a meta build, but something what is rather unusal in normal groups but it can survive and play along well with others?
That kind of character would deserve a kick from other players, just because not following the trend?

I would like to hear your opinion my fellow mesmer brothers and sisters.

You got your point about ideas.Everyone can have good ideas. However when you talk about balance issues in pvp i am sure top pvp ers knows better than a casual gamer what causing balance issues.

I think there is a reason why you go to see the doctor and not just ask your friend and buy medication from the street. This reason is called Elitism. You are elitist then cos you not trust in your friend or in case of your laptop in your grandmother. I havent said casual players shouldnt be listened.What I am saying is experience means experience.
You would choose an unexperienced doctor to operate you? Aww you are elitist.:)

Hi all,

I just went trough the whole thing and i am deeply sad about Hooma behaviour.We have a game what we play day by day, we would be happy if we could improve it along with the devs and Hooma just started to troll, derailed the whole topic and tried everything to successfully bring this conversation down to a level of childish argument.
Honestly if you would want to hear some suggestion on your brand new laptop, who would you ask? Your grandmother? Probably she is an expert in it?I dont think so.You would ask your friend who has EXPERIENCE in it. Is this thing would make your grandmother less honorable person? Of course no! We are not the same. I am into PVE.Ask me about COE and i will happily tell you my experience.I dont have experience in PVP i never done it. This is makes me a less valuable player? No.
But seriously i wont go to the butcher to ask him about how to make bread.

This is about experience.If players dont know anything about pvp, they shouldnt design it.You will gain experience.One they maybe you will be a PVP champion.There is no 2 group.Just one. Players. We have our game. Some experienced player tried to suggest something and Hooma in the name of equality tried to sabotage this.This is what i can see.

Not everyone grow up on forums and can select the words carefully. Some of us just says what thinks at the first place. We should bann them for this?

Think , people.

Looking for dungeon oriented guild to do daily dungeon/fractal runs with guildies because PUGs no fun at all. Unfortunately i couldn’t find a good semi-pro/pro guild ingame.

I am on EU Piken Square. Have 3 lvl 80 chars, Dungeon Master title, (working on fractal lvl, currently on 11)

Heccabah (ingame name)

Same here, I am stuck at 8/9 and no more dailies….great! Dont go on holidays, you might miss something! A bit unfair.

Dante i will keep your name in my mind if i will make a guild. Honestly hard to find players who want to join. Most players already in guild and even if they are not happy with it they dont like to switch to a new unkown guild.

Well i not really understand why i need to have 30+ fractal for some guilds.
These guilds advertised as dungeon guilds. I am experienced, have TS3, have Dungeon master title, doing COE all path, HoTW, TA and Arah normally.
I know my char and i know how to dodge. I guess that is all what needed. Fractal 30+ shows that i can….run fractals 30 times with a party?
I know it is hard and showing you are experinced but all with your knowledge with all the dungeons it is already proved i guess…

Of course if i would apply to a fractal guild it is a different story:)

Hmm maybe we have a same goal…:)
I am looking for a good dungeon group. (Either in guild or just as friends)

Thank you Bright and the others for your answer and time. I have my answer now for my question from Bright. I dont have 6-8 pro friends unfortunately and you are right with the quality/quantity. Probably making a new guild is really bound to fail. I already checked the big dungeon guilds requirements such as HC. (i am on Eu, Piken Square). I have the DM title, but i havent really into fractals yet.

Yeah these rewards are good if you can find a good group but if you will stuck in COE for example with a bad pug you will struggle in it for an hour or longer for 1 gold. Wich is a bit ridicoulous.

Yes i know some already exist but i wanted to create a new one.

I am still loving these dungeons but the patch changed the rewards. I dont want to run PUGs really, I wanted to create a guild wich contains a lot of dungeon loving people so they can form parties they know each other they can help each other. What do you think it does make any sense still or dungeons will be deserted soon or part of the daily “must run them once and go and do something else” thing?