I’ve been using 20606 dp for awhile now in WvW. There is not a class or build too difficult to take down. Hell ive even won a 1v7v7. The sheer amount of utility you have is unbelievable. Being able to interrupt resses mid stomp with steal has win an in umerable amount of 1v2s/3s, and being able to interrupt an eles ether renewal through armor of earth has also won me multiple 1v1s. Its an amazing build, and for anyone curious i definitely suggest trying it. Never tried d/d before, you just can’t do anything compared to dp :/ dual wielding daggers looks so bad as tho so props to those who pull i off.
My gear setup is also slightly different from yours. I opt for less health and crit chance in favor of more ferocity and toughness.
the only reason you cant compare anything to d/p is because of stealth access at literally any time, it doesn’t really take a lot of ‘l33t ski11z’ to play tbh
I just wanted to give you guys a quick update. Based on your feedback, we’ve decided not to add Runes of Perplexity to PvP in the 4/15 Feature Pack. We’ll be monitoring the balance of runes closely, making more tweaks if necessary, and revisiting the possibility of adding Runes of Perplexity to PvP at a later point.
Thanks again for comporting yourselves in such a cooperative and constructive manner – you guys had some great points and counterpoints regarding this issue.
You can play it but you’re moving yourself to the bottom of the food chain. Shatter builds are weak in the condi meta, as are high burst zerker builds in general. Thieves with all their stealth do the best with it, and they’ll use that to get rid of you quickly.
So, you may want to define whats ‘viable’.
Shatter builds are not weak. They are still more than viable, just gotta play it for a while and know when to burst etc.
Yeah its the condi meta, it does not mean that people have to change the way they spec just to beat it. Learn how to beat it with an old school spec and you wont have a problem in most situations. Its hard, but 100% do able.
Unless you come up against perplexity… Then gg.. cuz perplexity.
Shatter Mesmer is probably the most fun/hardest spec to play on a Mesmer.
You don’t see a lot of them lately because people are playing PU ez mode meta.
Apparently failing at taking sm is more important than Yaks getting wp’s on SBI bl.
Gj olaf and supr.
Pretty much sums up our oceanic. They would rather karma train, than try and defend our BL.
BTW, good job YB, i actually want you to try and push us down to 2nd, or even 3rd by Friday. Hopefully it will be a wake up call for SBI.
All i can say is congrats YB. Your server came out this week and shown dedication, and unbelievable organization, something SBI doesn’t have. You have been constantly at us and caused the server into a slump.
FA, im sure you will have a fun week against us owning our BL all match up.
I dont know why Earthshaker should be nerfed on the warrior. It is probably the easiest skill in the game to dodge.
The greatsword Rush skill should be decreased from 1,200 to 900 range. The mobility on the greatsword needs a nerf.
Perplexity Runes are definitely on our radar. I talked with our designers about this and you can expect some changes to this rune-set in the near future. I don’t have specific details on what changes we’ll be making, but I figured I’d let you guys know that we are looking at it.
Thanks guys!
They dont need to be changed. Just removed from the game.
Theres a difference on the “skill” level needed for GvG or roaming.
A good roamer/soloer depends a lot on reaction time, skill combos, and a good build.
For GvG or any kind of organized group play however you need an insane level of coordination in order to be succesful. Its not as easy as the roamers suggest, lol.
All you need is 2 necros, 10 Guardians, 2 Staff Elementalists, one mesmer and 5 hammer warriors.
I would disagree and say that is a little guard/warrior heavy. I would want less guardians and pick up a d/d ele or two and a thief.
I agree with the 2 necro/10 guards/2 staff ele/1 mes/5 shout warrior combo. Reason is that the guardians are keeping the blob (guards and warriors) alive. The tighter you stay as a group, the more damage you deal and less damage you will take. Staff ele’s and necro’s are there for that extra bit of DPS, but mostly for the fields that they are able to give out. Mesmer, for the veil, obviously.
This is true, I just like having that extra damage coming from the outside. I just think having 10 guards and 5 shout warriors is a little extreme unless you’re facing a guild of necros. But hey! Some guilds run necro heavy and wreck face. So to each their own!
Most Necromancers go power well spec for a GvG for the damage. Conditions IMO dont work in a group bigger than 10, due to the amount of condition removal coming from the warriors and guardians. A way to avoid a necro heavy group is to pay attention to the wells that are on the floor and completely avoid them. And thats where the warriors and guardians HAVE to stay tight and move/dodge roll as one. One over extender that dies, can change the whole fight completely.
I guess that’s true. I don’t know much about necros in GvG. I just figured the conditions would still be a big problem even in larger fights, more so than smaller fights like 10v10. In small fights like that there are less people pumping out conditions in the first place than in a 15v15 or 20v20, so the condition cleanses work even better.
But I agree wholeheartedly about the warriors and guardians moving together. The loss of a guardian or warrior can be a death knoll for a guild if it can’t regroup quick enough. I’ve seen it in our fights and in the fights of other guilds. It’s crazy how fast a fight can change.
With the power well necromancers, there a 2 wells that tick for 2.5k+, and one of those turns boons into conditions, so thats why you gotta look out for them. As for the conditions and stuff, think about it this way, the more guardians and warriors you have, the more the condition removal is going to come, and if you time your warriors and guardians shouts as a group, and rotate them like that, you should have no conditions on you what so ever.
Theres a difference on the “skill” level needed for GvG or roaming.
A good roamer/soloer depends a lot on reaction time, skill combos, and a good build.
For GvG or any kind of organized group play however you need an insane level of coordination in order to be succesful. Its not as easy as the roamers suggest, lol.
All you need is 2 necros, 10 Guardians, 2 Staff Elementalists, one mesmer and 5 hammer warriors.
I would disagree and say that is a little guard/warrior heavy. I would want less guardians and pick up a d/d ele or two and a thief.
I agree with the 2 necro/10 guards/2 staff ele/1 mes/5 shout warrior combo. Reason is that the guardians are keeping the blob (guards and warriors) alive. The tighter you stay as a group, the more damage you deal and less damage you will take. Staff ele’s and necro’s are there for that extra bit of DPS, but mostly for the fields that they are able to give out. Mesmer, for the veil, obviously.
This is true, I just like having that extra damage coming from the outside. I just think having 10 guards and 5 shout warriors is a little extreme unless you’re facing a guild of necros. But hey! Some guilds run necro heavy and wreck face. So to each their own!
Most Necromancers go power well spec for a GvG for the damage. Conditions IMO dont work in a group bigger than 10, due to the amount of condition removal coming from the warriors and guardians. A way to avoid a necro heavy group is to pay attention to the wells that are on the floor and completely avoid them. And thats where the warriors and guardians HAVE to stay tight and move/dodge roll as one. One over extender that dies, can change the whole fight completely.
Theres a difference on the “skill” level needed for GvG or roaming.
A good roamer/soloer depends a lot on reaction time, skill combos, and a good build.
For GvG or any kind of organized group play however you need an insane level of coordination in order to be succesful. Its not as easy as the roamers suggest, lol.
All you need is 2 necros, 10 Guardians, 2 Staff Elementalists, one mesmer and 5 hammer warriors.
I would disagree and say that is a little guard/warrior heavy. I would want less guardians and pick up a d/d ele or two and a thief.
I agree with the 2 necro/10 guards/2 staff ele/1 mes/5 shout warrior combo. Reason is that the guardians are keeping the blob (guards and warriors) alive. The tighter you stay as a group, the more damage you deal and less damage you will take. Staff ele’s and necro’s are there for that extra bit of DPS, but mostly for the fields that they are able to give out. Mesmer, for the veil, obviously.
Although, i would drop one warrior for a good thief that knows how to survive, to take out the oppositions necro’s/ele’s.
hmmm mickey must be from the sbi server….name calling..hahah….how mature..
its true I don’t have an elem character..but I don’t think the dragon tooth skill can hit bottom ground 15-20 feet inside a fort.. can another person with elem char confirm it…?
even if that possible…I have many other examples…of none-dragon tooth skills that is used by cheats/hacks…this pic is from the crystal server attacking crag tower…I was way on top..and a none-dragon tooth skill took out my siege.
can mickey name that skill ?
Im not sure about this one man, those red circles on the edge of the cliff from an AC are pretty suspicious tho, maybe that might be it?
hi guy, we all know every server has some hacks and cheats…..even tho sbi have the zombie hordes(50-70) zergs…..still a lot of sbi relies on hacks and cheats to flip borlis pass forts. SBI been cheating and hacking back in June match up and they still doing it this week (09/13/2013)…can u say zoomhack.?
what’s the point of wvwvw..if a server can only win with cheats and hacks.?
I have attached a pic of it from June and sbi still doing cheats/hacks this week.
here’s the pic but I am not sure if anet will remove the pic….pic from june ..wild creek
on the eternal map..shows red target circles way inside…while the gate still up and all the sbi is still outside
And here comes another BP idiot accusing people of hacking. No. The skill dragontooth on the elementalist’s scepter doesn’t need LoS to hit things, just for it to be targeted. Go and try it for yourself.
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Mickz do you have some issues or something or just complete ignoring the fact sbi are doing everything i said…
For one: go to “Woohoo, Sbi will face top 12 servers now” in discussion…nothing but sbi it seems talking how awesome they are and how good they will do.
Two: Bp does like to fight, Just we arent gonna be on 24/7.
Three: I transfered to bp cause wvw is horrible in lower tiers(depending on server).
You just dont want to see sbi are causing drama because that is your server. Open your eyes.
From what ive seen all the drama that has been caused are coming from BP talking kitten about SBI numbers. I dont see any YB talking kitten about numbers, they actually stay out and fight, and try unlike you guys. And yes, i agree that WvW is horrible at lower tiers and thats why we transferred also, but if you cant handle other servers numbers, then go back down there.
And here comes Buffy to save the day. For one, i dont know why you think we are gonna hit T2-T1 because we aren’t. And i dont see any SBI complaining on the forums about BPs 50 man zerg in our bl this morning aswell as a YB zerg, because we like a challenge tbh, unlike BP. So stop kittening about numbers and zergs and go and play the game, or transfer off to a lower tier if you dont like it. kthnxbailuvya
I’m not one to care about PPT, but i honestly hate versing SBI-.-
Since all these transfers, i rarely ever get even numbered fights when i run 10-15 man groups with my guild.. The only guild who give great fights and actually stand out of the 70 man zergs in BEAST. So yeah, i’ll be in Yaks BL for most of this week just looking for good fights.
It’s funny when other servers act as if they never have zergs.
I don’t think you’ve ever seen an enemy 80 zerg. You guys have them quite a lot!
I didn’t see any huge SBI zergs last night during reset. You’d think that would be primetime for an 80 man zerg, especially since those are supposedly our forte.
You guys always complain about the new SBI transfers, but what you fail to realize is that we do our own separate guild events and tend to avoid huge zergball stuff. For instance, DDLG ran two groups last night, with each consisting of less than 20 members.
Wow, you’re crazy. You’re telling me you were in every map on reset and you saw all of SBI’s numbers? That’s hard to believe.
No need to hide the fact that your server fields 80 people almost ALL the time. Just accept it.
You guys have the skill of a tier 7 server but coverage for a tier 3 server.
I really love how BP start talking kitten about numbers when they come up against a challenge. Like i said before, get off the forums kitten talking about numbers, and go out and fight, BP can easily field the numbers that SBI do.
And about the Tier 7 skill. You are probably the biggest hypocrite i have seen. The only guild i have been impressed with in BP is DR. The rest of you are just mindless zerglings with no tactics and result to excuses on the forums about losing. Grow up.
I’m not one to care about PPT, but i honestly hate versing SBI-.-
Since all these transfers, i rarely ever get even numbered fights when i run 10-15 man groups with my guild.. The only guild who give great fights and actually stand out of the 70 man zergs in BEAST. So yeah, i’ll be in Yaks BL for most of this week just looking for good fights.
It’s funny when other servers act as if they never have zergs.
I don’t think you’ve ever seen an enemy 80 zerg. You guys have them quite a lot!
I didn’t see any huge SBI zergs last night during reset. You’d think that would be primetime for an 80 man zerg, especially since those are supposedly our forte.
You guys always complain about the new SBI transfers, but what you fail to realize is that we do our own separate guild events and tend to avoid huge zergball stuff. For instance, DDLG ran two groups last night, with each consisting of less than 20 members.
Guess that 70 man DDLG zerg in Bp’s bl tonight doesn’t count? (Idk if true but ive been told about it)
We only have 58 people online lol, and a majority in PvE, only 30 DDLG tops were in WvW tonight
I’m not one to care about PPT, but i honestly hate versing SBI-.-
Since all these transfers, i rarely ever get even numbered fights when i run 10-15 man groups with my guild.. The only guild who give great fights and actually stand out of the 70 man zergs in BEAST. So yeah, i’ll be in Yaks BL for most of this week just looking for good fights.
