Guild Wars 2

I was gonna go minion mancer for lvling but seriously the pet ai is so bad i don’t even know why i bother having them out.

1/10 cba to write why again as i’ve already written it in several of the other threads and thousands of other posts agreeing.

defi.4127:

95% of the community? You’re a real jester, aren’t you.

Count the posts and check how many want Pre patch back and how many are happy with this new patch.

I think i’m just about right there with the numbers.

Lagg.3960:

Added a TL;DR at the top.

Skyrant Kangaroomouse.7458:

Viracer.9436:

I’ll +1 this as a possible solution.

+1 Similar to what i proposed here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/How-to-fix-Dungeons-A-lesson-in-game-design-for-ANET/

Thanks, Skyrant, I also like your solution.

Efaicia.3672:

Oh, you mean more of what’s been done already? A weekly lock out for gear, or tokens to get gear? A “must do” chore list to get gear, or tokens to get gear. Yeah, no thanks. The dailies and monthies for achievements for doing what I want to do and nothing more is as close as I ever want my list of “chores” to come to that play style.

Sadly, yes.

I can’t think of a better system that doesn’t have grind. Apparently neither do ArenaNet’s game designers, and they’re being paid for it.

Mordikay.8476:

Or they could just realize they made a mistake with the dungeon path and roll CoF back to what it was and make the other dungeons get in line of speed and difficulty.

That wouldn’t remove the need to grind 50~60 dungeon runs.

I’m okay with having to wait 6 months to get my armor. I’m not okay with having to grind for it.

You might be ok with with it, but what about the other 95% of the player base? You could just do 1-2 dungeon runs a day the old way and then spend 6 month getting your set. But what about the rest of us that want it faster and was willing to do 20-30 runs a day and actually had fun with it?

Personally i’m not so mad about the sets as I already have complete CoF set. But they really messed up the dungeons overall and atm CoF was my main source of making money. I was going to continue running CoF even though i had the full set as I have thing to spend cash on, specially as a guild leader.

Anet should realize people were having fun doing exp that lasted 15-20 min and get the other dungeons in line of what CoF was instead of the other way around.

Personally i’ve gone over to just loggin in farming ore and doing Arah speedruns (which is in no way profitable)

Now dungeons are:

1. No money

2. Too timeconsuming

3. Not worth doing over just loggin in to play the market and farm ores to get an exotic gear.

Atm i’m fully exotic geared in every single slot cept my greatsword on my mesmer and Anet with this patch just removed like 80% of my insentive to login and do something on my lvl 80’s.

So hows about they just realize they make a mistake and players like you can stick to running dungeons once or twice a day and be happy with that, while leaving players that has more time to play and actually want to play have something to do and by that i mean something to do we find worth it which dungeons after the patch is NOT.

It’s amazin there is no reponse from Anet yet since yesterday where they actually posted in 2 of the main posts here on the forums. Either they are not much for admitting mistakes or they just want 95% of the community to getkitten off and leave the game.

Danki.8940:

Mordikay.8476:

Just face it Anet you screwed up. Dungeons are not worth doing anymore cept for maybe Arah fast path now.

Roll back the patch So we can do CoF again and get the other dungeons in line. If this continues and crafting is the most viable way for exotics a lot of people will quit because it’s BORING to farm ore and cash. CoF WAS FUN.

nonononono, dont say anything about Arah please, coz they will change trying to “help us” lol

Hehe i’m doing Arah speed run now instead of CoF. I got the CoF set and just wanted to continue doing it because of the good money and exp but they completly ruined dungeons now. CoF was my pve set and was gonna farm Arah anyways after for my pvp set as it has toughness.

Don’t worry it won’t be long before they try to “help” us in Arah speedruns too and then there is absolutely no reason to do any dungeons anymore.

I Find it kinda strange this dungeon path as I would think Anet would want players to run the content they made and not drive more people away from it, plus ruin the player bases economy on top of that.

Or they could just realize they made a mistake with the dungeon path and roll CoF back to what it was and make the other dungeons get in line of speed and difficulty.

What you fail to see if CoF was made right and people were actually having FUN farming it. Now with the dungeons nerfs and too crazy buffs to the mobs there is no point in doing dungeons cept maybe Arah speed farm.

So with this dungeon path endgame died even more.,

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Just face it Anet you screwed up. Dungeons are not worth doing anymore cept for maybe Arah fast path now.

Roll back the patch So we can do CoF again and get the other dungeons in line. If this continues and crafting is the most viable way for exotics a lot of people will quit because it’s BORING to farm ore and cash. CoF WAS FUN.

RavenDeBlade.1670:

First of all this is FAIL.

Like the Magg part is hard all the way to blowing up the doorway to crystal, then it gets RET*RDED. Some people say “we did it” yes and i KNOW they are almost FULLY GEARED already, people like me who are doing this to GET GEARED cant simply do it, we tried in several groups ALL DAY! and we never managed to kill all mobs, we simply dont have the GEAR for it.

Anet when you do changes like this you cant “test it” with endgame geared toons you created, you have to be able to do it with Green/blue gear.

Anet doesn’t get that CoF was done right and that dungeons are a way to gear up. Atm they are a gold loss, timeloss and something they want you to once.

Sadly that’s not how 90% of the playerbase see it.

Vanisher.9216:

Mordikay.8476:

In short CoF was fine the way it was and instead of buffing CoF you should have tuned the other dungeons down to match what CoF was.

So an explorable mode that can be made by a group of 5 random people in blues without even talking to themselves was fine?

CoF second path was easy as kitten.

CoF 2nd path could not be made by a grp in blues without talking. Like i’ve states in previous posts i’v e ran CoF with pugs too and many utterly failed at it. Personally i’m in full CoF set but i have put ALOT of time and runs into it and was actually planning to continue to run it with guildies to gear them up too. I have completed every single exp mode dungeon in the game and stuff like arah to give an example was not enjoyable at all.

I’ve made those dungeons fine and without any or many death but they were simply not worth the gold or specially time investment and that was what made CoF so good. it was worth it in all aspects and a very good way for iunno how to say this “unskilled” players to get into the dungeon system. CoF was well made and I think the difficulty was right for the overall population of GW2.

nope in short dungeon are not worth your gold, time or marks anymore. Best option is to find some other way of farming and get exotic crafted gear.

Dungeons are dead until Anet realize they had it right with CoF and it was all the other dungeons they needed to get in line. CoF was fun, now it isn’t and the other dungeons arn’t either or in any way worth it unless fun for you is losing gold.

@Daboris, people were having fun because CoF was the only dungeon that was fun. It’s just a matter of how much you wanted to spend time farming it to get the equipment. People want rewards for doing stuff.

As it stands now no dungeon is WORTH the money, time or effort put into for any kind of mark. Personally i’ve ran guild grps that got CoF down o 12-14 and it was fun trying to break our good run, but i’ve also been in pug grps where they utterly failed.

So imo CoF was the only dungeon done right. It was worth it in money, marks and time. Now with the poor ways of making cash in the game as there already were it’s back to farming that ore.

All in all it just means that players that played more hours of the day will log in less and less and the casual players will never get the dungeon sets either.

So we are back to playing the game less and less and the only reasons to login will be to farm ore, pvp a little and wait for you having enough mats for that legendary or exotic upgrade you need.

I personally think these changes will result in a loss of players and a worse economy. I might sound like a semi hardcore player and yes i’m only missing CoF boots from being full exotic but I don’t want to see a loss of players in GW2.

For me personally i won’t be puggin anymore and will have to find a new way to farm for that legendary or just give up on GW2.

Personally i think they should model all the other dungeons after CoF path 2 so we ccan all have FUN in all the dungeons.

What Anet fails to see if CoF was the correct way of making a dungeon and get tokens and all the others were not worth doing. Now no dungeon is worth doing and it’s back to farming whatever to get the crafted items.

The masses have spoken, CoF WAS made correctly and noone ran the other dungeons cept maybe doing Arah short path for 8 tokens at the time.

Nobody wants to spend a huge amount of time in a dungeon to get token and it actually having to cost you gold. CoF path 2 was perfectly balanced and Anet should make the other dungeons like that instead of the other way around.

In short CoF was fine the way it was and instead of buffing CoF you should have tuned the other dungeons down to match what CoF was.

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