Guild Wars 2

What about Risen Knights ?
They do look like Gargoyles.

No, Zhaitan only used his powers to CONTROL the undead of Orr, he didn’t raise all of them. Besides, when he woke he brought Arah up from the Ocean and flooded Lion’s Arch. And that was in 1219 AE, we are in 1325 AE ingame.

And Titans and Destroyers are really different things, they are not connected to Primordus, they are the minions of Abaddon. They take the guise of “Molten Rock” Monsters in the Ring of Fire or Icy monsters in the Shiverpeaks. They only use the rock that is avaible to them, they are NOT connected to Primordus.

And we will get more info on Zhaitan awakening in the book Sea of Sorrows.

So the Mursaat made an alliance with other races and then fled when they needed them ?kitten that’s almost a race of Logans.

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I do hope that they return not as an enemy, but in fact helping us. They fought the dragons once and fled, they might have some information that we don’t. Besides, fighting them again ? :P We could have two factions of Mursaat, one we fight and the other help us!

They attack even humans that hate Charr.
In fact, they see EVERYONE as a Charr or a traitor.

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I think the Elder Dragons ate the Human Gods. That would explain why they left the Humans completely.

Don’t think so.
It seems to me that they left because they wanted to, or they are indeed the same creatures.

I thought something like this but with a twist.

We have 6 gods:

Balthazar, Dwayna, Lyssa, Grenth, Melandru and Kormir.

We have 6 dragons:

Zhaitan, Primordus, Kralkatorrik, Jormag, Bubbles and the 6th.

We know that dragons consume magic.
We know that each dragon has a champion or more than one.
We know that the dragons predate the Six Gods.
We know that the Six Gods taught magic to the races of Tyria in 1 BE.

When i just joined University (History) i learned a fun fact that my teacher called “Sowing Meat”. When portuguese ships sailed across the globe during the discoveries they used to leave a few pigs on each island. Those islands were not ready for them, they were not part of that ecosystem, and then what happened when the portuguese returned a few years later on another trip ? Lots of pigs. Lots of meat. They didn’t need to take meat with them anymore, they could grab it during their trips.

Now, back to Guild Wars 2.

We have those six gods teaching magic to the races of Tyria and encouraging the humans to fight the Charr.

Now, let’s stop a moment. Let’s say those six “gods” were actually champions of the Elder Dragons or the Dragons themselves in other forms. We don’t know what happens when a Elder Dragon is defeated, but we do know that they were defeated once (The Jotun, Seers, Mursaat, Dwarves and Forgotten faced them before). What if they indeed go to the mists when they are defeated and are reformed there to start a new “cycle” ?

So this time they bring a new creature with them – humans – teach them magic and in turn they are worshipped as gods. And they set this new creature to fight other creatures of Tyria.

Why would they do that when unity is what the races need to stop the Dragons ? It got me thinking, they teached magic to the races so they could eat them after. They were preparing them for the feast.

Also, Kormir might seems to be a broken link on this line of thought, but it’s not. We’ve seen how she ascended. But we don’t know what happened after that. What if she was corrupted by the same power that created the Elder Dragons ? I will get to this later.

Now, let’s talk about the gods and their powers.

Balthazar → Primordus.

No brainer here. Fire and agression.

Grenth→ Jormag

Grenth, the god of darkness, death, and ice. Death and ice. Jormag is all about death and ice. His minions aren’t alive, they are made of pure ice. And even the dead can be used in his army as seen on Edge of Destiny.

Kormir → Zhaitan

Let’s take a look at Kormir now. A newcomer in the pantheon of the human gods, she is the goddess of goddess of order, spirit, and truth. How is this related to Zhaitan, and how can she be a Dragon if the dragon were created BEFORE the Gods ? What if whatever created the Elder Dragons have the power to empower new ones ? Pretty much like how the EDs themselves can create new champions ? If so he is perfectly capable of corrupting Kormir and giving her new purpose. Her dominion over spirits is twisted so she can create hordes of undead.

Dwayna → Kralkatorrik

Dwayna is the goddess of goddess of healing, air, and life. Kralkatorrik is a huge sandstorm of pure hunger. How are those related ? First, Kralkatorrik seemed to have a great dominion over storms (air) and life (Corrupting it to create new minions). Now, remember ol’ Shiro ? He was corrupting the power of Dwayna. What happened to that ritual ? Yep. Everything became jade. It seems that corrupting Dwayna power has the hability to… turn things to stone. Kralkatorrik seems pleased.

Lyssa → Bubbles

Another no brainer. Lyssa is the goddess of beauty, water and illusion. Seems fitting to a unknow dragon that stirred in the deeps of the ocean and wrecked havoc amongst the underwater races.

And now finally:

Melandru → The 6th Elder Dragon

Meleandru is the goddess of nature, earth, and growth. It fits the Inquest description on their lab of a nature dragon. And since we have a dragon of each element, a “nature” dragon seems fitting. And growth ? This might even fight the Pale Tree theory. I don’t believe that the Pale Tree itself is a Elder Dragon or one of it’s champions, but i’d say that they were created by the Elder Dragon and was “saved” by Ventari and Ronan. Pretty much like Glint could see the error of her ways. And thus the Sylvari were raised to FIGHT the Elder Dragons and unify the people of Kryta.

Now, who created the elder dragons? Or are they a simple force of destruction ? Maybe the world itself is trying to reach balance. Or maybe they give magic to the sentient races just to return and consume it.

And if they do have a creator and the hability to create new EDs, well.. Let’s say we might have another good enemy.

It’s all speculation and i don’t think it’s the case. But it’s fun.