Guild Wars 2

The point is not unfair additional income generated by these, but the infinitesimal droprate and the fact that alternatives are equally rare and bind-on-account.

Reasonable solutions would be: farmable-in-a-finite-amount-of-time droprate, obtainability by any other CERTAIN means (gems, karma, milions of gold, bazillions of tokens) or making Fractal exotics sell-able on the TP.

Again: why can’t we have unique stat combination exotics from Fractal on the TP but we can have LEGENDARIES.

Ridiculous droprate, rarity and lack of common knowledge might have made so that even developers forgot about these.

The fact that some of these items have yet to appear on the TP (shared by the WHOLE GW2 population) should be enough of a hint that something is not working.

Again my main concern is the fact that these bring exclusive stat combinations that are otherwise unobtainable-in-a-finite-amount-of time due to stupidly bind on account exotics drops, when we have LEGENDARIES on the TP.

Are you 100% sure the third bag comes from the chest?

So far I gathered lot of data on these drops “introduced” with Lost Shore patch and it seems that the bag gets replaced by named trinkets of masterwork/rare quality and on specific bosses by an exotic drop (recipe or backslot item).
That would explain early complaints about not getting 3 bags, since no1 used to notice named low quality non lvl 80 trinkets.

AFAIK tonics come from chests and in this particular case it might be possible that they replace the bag. All the considerations in the above posts would explain why this is the last one to have yet to appear on the TP (Arah 1 and Arah 4 showed up recently)

I have a thread where I’m trying to gather all the data (I’ve pinpointed almost ALL drop locations)

The fact that some of them have yet to show up for the ENTIRE population of GW2 might be a hint of something not working properly, again my main concern being that some of these have stats that are otherwise unobtainable-in-a-finite-amount of time.

What I’d want it’s a way to acquire exclusive stat combinations in a FINITE amount of time. Doesn’t matter if it’s 1k tokens, 100g or whatever, since we can buy LEGENDARIES on the TP why can’t we buy trinkets or backpieces with exclusive stat combinations?

Exactly, there is no reason for those to be so rare that some have yet to actually drop, after 2 months.

They might not be seen by other players but some of those are the only chance you have to get specific stats on some gearslot, the alternative (although not a feasible alternative) being stupidly-account-bound exotics from Fractal.

UPDATE: in the last couple of days Arah 1 and Arah 4 jewel showed up on the TP, proving they do actually exist.

I’ve started doing some TA:fw→up for the backpiece and I can confirm those drop instead of the usual bags of wondrous goods.

Moreover so far I got stuff only from the boss corpse rather than the chest.

There are some exotic backpieces the Magi one (healing power) being the only stat triplet not purchasable with tokens. Shame those are stupidly-bind-on-account-exotics from Fractals, thus lacking a reliable acquire source.

Regarding more ascended backpieces there are still some T6 fine crafting materials (totems for example) that lack a recipe in the Mystic Toilet to make one, they’d just have to add it.

Oh and there is another exotic healing power back but it’s so unfarmable-in-a-finite-amount-of-time that no one has ever heard of it.

Thanks for the informations.
It seems that these drop in place of the usual bag of wondrous goods and it might be the reason because people where complaining about getting different number of bags from the same run.

Still trying to get some consensus if these drop from the actual corpse of the boss or from the chest. Dropping from the corpse might add to the rarity of these since one might forget to check the body and go straight to the chest.

tl;dr There is named loot/recipes with unique stats/flavor/look but almost no one knows.

Each dungeon has a new set of unique items with new stat combinations, ranging in rarity from masterwork to exotic. These items have a chance to drop off of certain bosses in the explorable mode of each dungeon

DB site lists a lot of named Masterwork/Rare/Exotic trinkets with hard-to-find stats triplets that “should” come from the bag-of-wondrous-goods-bosses. Some do not even show on the TP, meaning that (almost) no one in the ENTIRE population of GW2 has ever dropped them.
There might be some “issues” with the droprate.

Are these dropping together with, instead of or inside the bags of wondrous loot and (not to start a MF debate) but does MF increase the chance of getting an item instead of a bag?

Is scaled loot supposed to drop at all? Look at this ring obviously coming from AC. There is a whole range of lvl and rarity but TP has only the lvl 35 version for sale, that’s coincidentally the dungeon lvl. Others do exist, since there are buy orders for them.
We’re speaking of AC, the most farmed dungeon of the last century.

Onto exotics now: there are jewel recipes for trinkets that cover stat combination exclusively from dungeons, some that (thanks to stupidly bind on account exotics from Fractal) are otherwise non-farmable-in-a-finite-amount-of-time, like this one I had to pay 60g for.
Shame they are so rare and unfarmable that some took 2 months to show on the TP: Arah 1 Arah 4 and one is not there yet: SE 2 (that might have something to do with those dungeons too)

There is named backpieces too, supposedly from bosses w/o a recipe, that might have unique looks. Again the only one confirmed is AC 2 and there are even misterious recipes on wich I have yet to get any info.

Can we have any of the following:
- reliable infos: people will know about these and how/where to get what they want
- finite-amount-of-time droprates: might actually be worth doing old dungeons for these
- exotic stuff avaliable for bazillion dungeon tokens or on TP: treating it like existing sets and artificer recipes, no one likes RNG when it comes to BiS gear or favorite looks.

UPDATE: thanks to informations from people that have dropped the jewel recipes, I can now infer the drop location of all the backpieces:

Arbor’s Embrace TA:fw->up (from Vivena)
Burntclaw’s Brace CoE 3 (Rhiannon path)
Ghost Eater’s Hide AC 3 (Detha path)
Prototype Sheath CoE (don’t know wich path)
Spineguard of the North CM 1 (Asura)
Wraithlord Chains Arah 3 (Forgotten path)

So far the only confirmed drop is the AC one, they “should” all come from path last boss (don’t know it either the boss or the chest) apart from TA where the jewel recipe all drop from the second last boss (Fyonna, Leurent) since you always have the Nightmare Tree at the end.

Couldn’t pinpoint wich CoE path the backpiece should come from, since there is Subject Alpha everywhere and the jewel names do not help:

Alpha Conduit
Infinity Loop

According to the DB site there are 6 named backpieces, judging by their names they should drop from the 6 dungeon paths that do not have a jewel recipe tied to them.

Arbor’s Embrace
Burntclaw’s Brace
Ghost Eater’s Hide
Prototype Sheath
Spineguard of the North
Wraithlord Chains

Due the stupidly infinitesimal droprate of those recipes though, this is all speculation.
Moreover for each of those there is a recipe entry like this

Does anyone have any reliable info? I’d like to have some since, even if they have the recipes droprate, they aren’t exactly “farmable”.

I’m expecially interested in the first one, since there is no exotic or ascended back piece with healing power as a primary stat apart from the stupidly bind-on-account, unobtainable in a finite amount of time Magi’s Spineguard exotic version.