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On the other hand, the public at large are not computer hobbyists, which means they don’t have the hundreds of hours required to learn install a basic word processor on a computer, or to dig through hundreds of threads debating Vi and Emacs. Anyone can work with Windows in a matter of minutes. That’s a fact.
Erm, no. Anyone sufficiently intelligent can learn any operating system, even more so if they lack previous experience since there is no need to “unlearn” or “relearn” habits to perform task X.
The only fact is that the general population has a higher probability to be used to working with windows for historical reasons. Familiarity and ease-of-use are two very distinct notions.
And hundreds of hours to learn install a basic word processor, really? Either you have no idea what you’re talking about, or your experience is limited to maybe Slackware anno 1994, drop the FUD thank you very much.
Sure you’re right in theory, but if the public at large knew how to make decent clothing, Abercrombie&Fitch would be out of business too. Same goes for McDonald’s if the public knew how to make affordable food.
Except we’re talking about something akin to wearing clothes or eating food. Not producing them.
The boon of windows is simplicity. It works out of the box. That’s simply not true for linux.
The boon of windows is its ubiquity on desktop PCs. Nothing else. Again, familiarity vs ease-of-use.
So let linux be what linux is for … enthousiasts, and let the public at large use something which is made for the public at large… windows. Why try square the circle all the time.
Linux is for what whoever wants to make out of it. Ubuntu is for instance also targeted at the public at large.
PS: i’m just posting to bumb this thread. If a dev has some spare time and wants to waste it on less than 1% of the gaming population, he should most certainly do so, but it can’t be a priority.
No such thing as the “1% of the gaming population”. If that 1% is a reference to online statistics about the desktop market share, first of all as I pointed out in a previous post routers and dual-boot systems among other things make the figure bogus, second as I also noted previously market share is one thing, market value another (see Humble Indie Bundle sales), and third the statistics that 1% is taken from also counts business PCs, definitely not among the gaming population.
It would be really great if people who have no stake in a Linux client could stop clogging the thread with their nonsense. Sure that bumps the thread but at the same time having to debunk the same old bogus arguments could be spent on much more constructive activities.
IN OVERALL response to this thread, you can always stop being stubborn and expect a company to invest millions to satisfy a 1% market share (yes they are noisy but still 1%) and just dual boot Windows, its not like anyone pays for Windows these days who has half a brain. Which I do not have as I paid for it.
This kind of answers always boggles my mind…
It’s almost as if windows users would be bothered by the existence of a Linux client. Why is that? How does this affect you?
I’ll tell you how it could affect you: in a really good way. Because you have everything to win from microsoft having serious competition. We couldn’t care less, most of the code for Linux is free of charge and open source, we can grab the source and compile it if we wish, distributions just make it much more convenient.
On the other hand, windows is the sole property of a for-profit entity. Competition would mean they’d have to make sure they can’t get away with MEs and Vistas in order to remain relevant. For you as a consumer, that means better products, lower prices, etc. Who wouldn’t want that?
Now, about that 1%… Ok first of all, have you looked at how that data is collected or simply accepted it at face value? Let me ask you this: how are several computers sitting behind a router, sharing a single public IP, accounted for? How about dual-boot machines?
Though you are probably correct about the install base of desktop Linux systems being much lower than windows. Even so, does it matter? Since we’re on the subject of statistics, I have some for you: Total sales from the Humble Indie Bundle
Total revenue linked to Linux users has been between 10-25% constantly, the average sales being three times as high as that of windows users, now THIS is relevant to game companies. That supposed 1% market share has money they are willing to spend on games.
And I am willing to spend money on the Trade Post as long as ANet releases a Linux client, or at least acknowledges Linux users. (hint hint)
Edit: where did you get the idea it cost millions to port a game engine?
sed ‘s/they patch/their patch/g’
ShahrizaiIf anyone could find me a link to a step-by-step-detailed guide on how to get GW2 run on my Linux box with the same fps as I get in Windows, then hey, GIEV!!1
Here’s the easiest how-to: you can’t
Main issue is the lack of proper support for multithreaded rendering in WINE.
The best you can do right now is to use a special PPA on Ubuntu, but it requires an recent nvidia card to take advantage of it: https://launchpad.net/~foresto/+archive/winepatched/
The most painless installation is still with PlayOnLinux with they patched 1.5.28 WINE version.
Oh and yeah, Anet, a proper Linux client would be awesome. I’d gladly donate to a Kickstarter project for that.
Or even sparing some time to help the WINE devs with multithreaded support would be really cool.