Guild Wars 2

Same here. SoloQ and Team are a bit better. I just block anyone who insults anyone else, doesn’t even have to be me. Nagging, complaining, moaning, afk’ing, leaving… will all be answered with a block. Makes life in the Mists a lot easier

Please do not touch Elemental Surge
I love that trait!

Weird thread, lol.
50% winrate only says something about the matchmaking system, not your skill.
matchmaking is made so that you’re matched against equally skilled people which, statiscally means you should get a 50% winrate. It doesn’t say whether our good or bad. It says you’ve been matched against equally good or equally bad players.

Are there eles with more than 50%? Of course.
I have a 60% winrate in SoloQ , 53% teamQ, 55% or so in total.

I play very casually. I played about 10 matches per week or so for a year till my son was born 8 months ago. from them I play maybe 5 tourneys or less in a month? I’m still top 600 on the leaderboard, coming from top 100.

Does this say something about skill? Maybe. Or maybe I just play at random times where the system has trouble finding people with equal MMR, and broadens its search more :P

However, I do want to congratulate you on rank 80! I am jealous of that

@iNitrogen: Hey, welcome to Ele! I’m happy you enjoy the build! I haven’t done WvW in a long long time…. So I can’t say for sure, but I think this build isn’t really useful in WvW. With Ascended gear, mixed runes, food and other buffs, I don’t think it’ll have enough pressure to work out as it does in PvP. Small group should be fine, but solo… nah :/
Like Iris said, you’re better off speccing full bunker, or full dps.

@ Jae & Ozii: D/F…. I think it could work. It should give you a nice balance between offense and Defense. But it’s just not my cup of tea. But please try it out and let me know how you fare!

@Iris: Hard Question Because I feel maps are only a part of the equation. Without a doubt Forest is my best map. Small map, small nodes, a lot of terain to work with. Yeah, forest is my best map. After that, I’d say Kyhlo’s pretty good. Foefire too.
Temple is good as well, but if the opponents decide to put a nuker or condi spammer on one of the pillars or on the roof. I’ll always kill them first. I hate those spots :P

I don’t like spirit watch, and I absolutely hate Skyhammer. I’d say Skyhammer is the only really unfavorable map for this build as it doesn’t utilise the cliffs. I have only one knockback, no push or pulls. I sometimes equip hammer and shield for this, but I still hate it….

As for my role, I’m a roamer. In most cases I’ll mainly rotate between back and mid to assist wherever the fight is. My mobility allows me to switch nodes really fast, especially on forest and kyhlo. If we don’t have a thief or decap / nodefighter engi, I will roam more offensively and peal from mid by harassing far as my 1v1 is quite good. Most teams will need a second to deal with me, meaning it pulls the mid fight in our favor. If their back has a port mesmer, I’ll atleast pop their port till it runs out, then head back mid with fresh cooldowns so I can burst again.
I also try to burst thieves in group fights to put them on the defensive. And I stom quite often wiith my arcanes.

It’s all situational as I play a lot of SoloQ, but the git of it is teamfights.

I don’t think you’ll meet me in tourneys though, I’m EU

@ Iris Ng: Well, they stack, but only in duration. It’s not really that I miss my Wave, It’s more that I don’t take care to actually put it in the fire fields :P Pure carelessness.

@ phaeris: I disagree. This is not a bunker build. You won’t be holding points. Stab is no requirement for a good build imo. And you have your dodges to actually dodge as you won’t be using them for the EA effects, there’s still a stunbreaker around in Arcane Shield. And this build is absolutely packed with CC, mostly I’m the one CC’ing.

But to each his own… In the end it’s about what you like to play and feel comfortabel with, and what role you need to fulfill.

Hey all! Thanks for reading the thread, watching the vids or even trying out this build. I truly appreciate your feedback

@Iris Ng
Let me know how you fare with Arcane Power in there. A guaranteed crit on Fire Grab does sound appealing but when I tried it, it felt too slow. 36s cooldown, over 16s on Arcane Blast is a big difference. None of the condis on lemental Surge stack, only in duration. So having 5 spells in a row trigger ES isn’t reaaly that big of a bonus. unless you cycle through all the attunements, but then everything will be on CD. I prefer to have an extra seperate Elemental Surge trigger, if that makes sense. It’s even an extra stomp every 20s. And I like my 1500 range chill

@Iris Ng & Spiderwick
You’re both right, tbh. the rotation I posted is kinda like an ideal situtation. If your opponent eats it, he eats it. If not, well, you break it off. IIn a normal group fight, he’ll eat it. 1v1, probably not.
In most cases, against most classes, I’m all out aggressive. This build puts out enough pressure to put most classes on the defensive. Once you get them there, you can keep enough dps down and outheal them to widdle them down. this build isn’t really made to play it slow indeed, but you can play in a reactionary way. Meaning, you hold back either Shocking Aura or any of the 3 arcanes. I play that way against Warriors and to a lesser extent, Thieves. Against Fresh Air eles, I’ll skip Water and keep it open for that extra heal after the first burst.

@Azilyi
LOL – I’ve seen your guide. While you dedicate 90% of your vid to combos, I just throw away my blasts left and right… I can see how it drives you nuts :P
I really don’t care too much. 3 might is nice, but it’s not what this build is about. I won’t hold back Wave till Fire comes back up, or skip to Fire asap when I feel other spells are necessary first. But I guess it wouldn’t hurt me either to keep it back 0.5s till the Fire Field is actually there… ^^*

LOL – I used to run both Elemental Surge and Powerful Aura in tPvP :P
Both are really good traits if you have the team for it!

Hey manveruppd,
Thanks for reading through this, and trying the build out, I really appreciate it!

To b honest, I didn’t know Arcane Power made your next 5 atacks trigger ES… That might be annoying :P I do feel uncomfortable dropping any of my utilities though. Will try it out, thanks.

The way I fight condi builds, is to open RtL>Updraft>Burning Speed + 2 Arcanes> Dragon’s Breath> Fire Grab> Earthquake If you land even half of this, it’s quite a lot of damage. Enough to put them on the defensive. And as you have enough dps left, you can keep them there.
The way this build works is to never let your opponent breathe :P

I remember the Staff Build. Iirc, he made a really nice tutorial vid explaining his combos too. The thing is, the playstyle is completely different and doesn’t suit me too well. I’m way too aggressive to be able to play that build, or any staff build for that matter, decently.

I’ll try to upload some duels with this build in the coming weeks.

Hey all,

I’m Nuithari. I’ve been playing Elementalist for about 1.5 years now, and sPvP for about a year. But as I became a dad, my playtime has been greatly reduced. So the only thing I can still do, is play a PvP (instant gratification :P) for a couple of hours a week.

Now, I’ve been playing a build for the last 10 months or so. And it was never really nerfed hard. Sure I had to adapt it a bit, but it survived, kinda. The meta changed to be quite unfavorable for Eles, but I never quit. Instead I just focussed on tuning the build and improving my game. But now, with the April 15th Patch, I feel like it’s gotten really solid, and I wanted to share it with you guys and see if you enjoy it as much as I do.

This is a roaming group brawler build for sPvP. It focusses on damage , support and crowd control. The classic D/D Elementalist runs 0/2/0/6/6, with Evasive Arcana and Triple Cantrips. We will not do that. Now, don’t stop reading here! The build is pretty solid, and carries more utility. The drawback is that you have to outplay your opponent. There’s no winning rotation or anything here. Small variations, but they bring great differences in play.

TL;DR
It’s a small deviation from the classic D/D build, but it brings a big difference in playstyle.
This is the build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQJAoYhcMKZ2ywnBd0APAC5hv2JKQ5iJbC-TJRHwAFeAAc2fAwJA4YZAA

Please try it out, and I hope you like it

Am I the only one who plays PvP for… PvP and not the skins?
I was kinda happy I could use my PvP skins in PvE, lol. I mean, I understand some used the skins as a sort of gratification for the hard work you’ve put in, but I don’t think anything like that “breaks” the game. At least now I can gloat whenever I stomp a PvE hero with his legendary :P

I just got kicked again :/

Belgium, Telenet

Yup, Same here… I’m on telenet, Belgium as well.
If I create a VPN to another provider, I can log in just fine and I won’t get kicked.

A friend of mine, a fellow Belgian had the same issue as well being on Telenet.

Same error here… Never had it till tonight :/

raises hand D/D Bursty dps here. Solo Queue. Still works brilliantly if you pick your fights and/or initiate well. Can’t god mode no more.

7/10 – The “flowiness” looks awesome, nice sober colors, I do not like that mask though.

Here’s mine, left of the Warrior.

QtVain.5803:

Inb4 I get cussed out for not “sharing” what my build is. Here you go:

-Fresh-air build:
30 Air: VI, X, XII
10 Water: V
30 Arcana: VI, V, XI

-Amulet: Berserker
-Superior Force on scepter, Superior Energy on dagger
-Utilities: Sig heal, Arcane Shield, Mist Form, Port cantrip, Glyph of Ele
-And the SUPER secret: Runes of Lyssa.

Playstyle:
-One role to fill: Defensively roam between the nodes that you do have, or the nodes your TEAM is engaging.
-Do not attempt to 1v1 spirits, you will lose.
-When using your earth gib combo on a necro, remember to arcane shield when you knock him down to prevent his fear.
-Lyssa runes are an “OH SNAP” button, I recommend baiting Signet of Spite out of necros with it.
-You have a very aggressive appearance in team fights due to the two stun breaks and defensive utilities. This build isn’t meant to global people, but put tons of pressure on the team.
-Remember to pre-cast Air 1 when swapping attunements. It will automatically activate fresh-air due to the fury + high crit chance the build already has.
-If you can’t stand berserkers, or you just don’t want to run it, then use valks w/ zerker ammy.

Notes: I would say I am a very seasoned ele. This build MAY NOT work for you, and it isn’t some godly build that defeats everything. Your biggest fear is d/p thieves, but they are beatable. S/D thieves are extremely easy to kill with this build, and it is very forgiving. Just simply run from spirit rangers, simple as that. NO, I do not have a video for it, and NO I will not make one. I’m not sharing this because I feel the need to be some ele superhero. I’m sharing this because I love the class, and I want to fill people in on what I’m using that works for me.

The end.

And Vain’s alive! Good to see you back again And on EU to boot!
S/D Fresh Air is fun, and the pressure it applies is huge. The weird thing is, that you don’t get targetted too much as ele, which makes it viable.

I switched from Ogre to Lyssa’s today. I like it! thanks for the tip!

My little Asura. My only one, but I wish I made one from the start.
How can you resist the flailing arms when they jump?

Magusaero.5740

Great build suggestion Nuithari. You probably already know this, but one of the great utilities to this build is the Elemental Surge bonus in earth attunement. It immobilizes for 1 second, which is usually the moment at which a skilled player will choose to dodge roll out of a channeled Churning Earth. If you time it right, you can immobilize at the end of your channel and either force a cooldown to break the immobilize or land the ability. I tried out a build very similar to this recently and experienced a lot of success with it. I liked it, but ultimately not as much as the cantrip build.

Thanks! I noticed I didn’t list the advantages of Elemental Surge ^^

• In Fire: The burning adds up to your burst. It’s really a big difference. I usually don’t stay around to clean the fight up when it’s on a side node. But the burning ticks on and makes the cleaning up easier for my team mates.
• In Air: Blind. I mostly use this for stomping so they miss their CC
• In Water you can chill. It’s great for chasing foes. Or keeping them away from the fight/node longer.
• Earth gives immobilize. indeed, the combination with Churning Earth is awesome. This also works on stealthed enemies!

I’m really enjoying this!

Tbh, I think it’s more important to find a build that suits both your role in the team and your playstyle.
I still play D/D as I don’t really like S/D. I find the burst too dodgeable.

0/20/0/20/30 is not the normal D/D build. It’s very common for S/D. D/D mostly centers around 0/10/0/30/30, with some tweaks here and there.

I started with the normal Boon Duration Bunker build (daphoenix):
http://www.intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vl33;2B2-V015wM-Z0;9;59-TT;10;324A45A6o0;3sVYCqRnC4gFd
With this, you’ll hold your own, you can swap to Water XII for aura sharing if you want. Just don’t expect to kill a person fast.

Next, I added the arcanes to kill people a bit faster, while still keeping some survivability.
Also swapped to Divinity runes.
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;0J0B2-U0c47N-Z0;9;59-TT;10;354B04ASR;4sV2DsV2D4BE

From there, I added 5 more in air from Water for Electric Discharge. This gives a bit more sustained damage as air with D/D is more of a stalling attunement :P
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;0J0B2-U0c47N-Z0;9;5E-OT;10;354-04ASR;4sV2DsV2D4BS

Right now, I’m playing around with this:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;0J0B2-U0c47N-Z0;9;59-TT;10;354B04BSR;4sV2DsV2D4BD
and it’s just awesome to play. While you have the 30 points in water back, without the cantrips, or the traits supporting it, the divinity runes, and the lack of EA, you are squishy. I’d even go as far as saying you’re glass, even with a 0/10/0/30/30 trait setup.
So the way of playing is very different from the original build I’ve starting with, I feel like I’m worth more for my team.

I hope you can see an evolution in these builds, and that would be my advice. Start with a build you know works, and tweek it to your (or your team’s) preferences.

Yeah, there are a lot of bad players in solo queue, but most of the times I can adapt and make it work. I don’t really mind, it’s basically part of pugging.
I’d say 95% of people are silent at the start of a game, that doesn’t mean 95% of all ppl solo queueing are bad…

And I do agree with Sal here. There is no etiquette in this game. No “glhf” before the game, no “hello”, practically no “gg” or “wp” at the end from the losers. Actually you’d see a gg from the winners, which, in most other games is seen as offensive. It’s up to us to work on this!

We need more skins! ^^
Here’s mine.

Heya!
1. WvW was basically the R&D lab for this 0/10/0/30/30 build. It’s very viable! In sPvP, while very viable, I have more fun with a more agressive setup.
2. my preference goes to power as well.

Sheris.6789:

Heyas, great guide.

For dagger/dagger,
I don’t get which Amulet + Jewel I’m supposed to use though in sPvP, since there’s no true knight in sPvP (they only have pow/prec/vit, and not pow/prec/toughness)

Hey! For sPvP, when I’m using the daphoenix build, I use Valkyrie Amulet with Soldier Jewel.
However, I find This Hybrid Build to be way more fun!
I basically moved 5 from water to Air for the Electric Discharge, and added the arcanes for more dmg. Then I swapped some traits around that were useless and changed them to fit the arcanes.
You’re not as bunker as the original, but you can still live through a lot. (If there’s a lot of conditions around or a lot of thieves I swap the valkyrie Amulet to a soldier one) And you can actually kill stuff with it instead of just tickle the oppenents to death :P

Here’s my updated Elementalist.
5 different Sets, only some minor clipping on the mantle

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Nuithari.3728:

EA will hurt but isn’t dramatic.
RTL is OK
All the rest is peachy.

This however:

Stealth nerfs (or at least some of them): Soothing disruption now only gives 5 seconds of regeneration and vigor. Shocking Aura now only gives 5 seconds of swiftness and fury when used with zephyr’s boon.

I don’t understand why they can’t just tell us everything -.-

… is painful!

Yeah I don’t understand these changes at all. I was using an uncommon build, I rely on vigor/regen during stress moments in dungeons, thats what my cantrips are for. And the nerf to Zephyr’s Boon is ridiculous, every other class has some way of maintaining fury far more reliably (good god don’t even compare warriors amiryte?), why was this even done?

And why not putting it in the notes? I’m glad I moved away from cantrips in sPvP, but I have yet to test stuff out elsewhere.

EA will hurt but isn’t dramatic.
RTL is OK
All the rest is peachy.

This however:

Stealth nerfs (or at least some of them): Soothing disruption now only gives 5 seconds of regeneration and vigor. Shocking Aura now only gives 5 seconds of swiftness and fury when used with zephyr’s boon.

I don’t understand why they can’t just tell us everything -.-

… is painful!

Same Problem here.
Build: 16732
Error Code: 42:1020:9001:4103

EU Piken Square

Nice guide.
I play D/D Ele and I checked this guide out because I met a S/D Ele in sPvP 2 nights ago (I think it was the Bunker build). It impressed me! While we stalemated everytime we duelled, I had to work way harder to keep my health up. He burst me for about half my HP. I could heal up every time but still, it was hard work. While I would die when his 2 friends joined, he would live for ages when mine came.
Impressive! Might try it out.

- cheers

Here’s mine.
[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/1ep1xx.jpg[/IMG]

Rhoto.8791:

what server is daphoenix on? just want to know if i’ll ever get the chance to run into him.

He’s on Fort Aspenwood iirc

Hey, I’ve been lurking around for a bit, but registered just to say thanks for posting this build. I’m new to Elementalist, but this build is loads of fun!