Guild Wars 2

The only way you are going to beat a mesmer as a power necro right now is if the mesmer is AFK or started playing today.

Glad I stopped playing the game. Every time I drop by the forums, there is a similar post about “X” issues in this game/tournament.

I’ve stopped in to check out the last 2 tournaments and it seems pretty stale. I’ve seen the same 15 guys in the finals brackets that were playing in the “top-tier” a year ago.

Good luck in China, hopefully there has been enough competition to keep your builds fresh and skills up to par.

These videos are all about killing the necro. All-Star Remko. I’m too stronk for EU.

If you think the Staff Ele on Apex was there to bring “the deeps” …just lol. That ele spec doesn’t do a lot of dps, but it does do quite a bit more damage compared to what a necro could bring specced similarly, plus much more healing, more condi removal and more boons. Which is really the point everyone is trying to get across to you and whoever else thinks that support necro is a thing.

Relentless.7023:

Necros are not a frontline class. They get juggled by CC so easily on every build, so if you see a Necro defending a node you can pretty much guarantee they will lose, even the allegedly OP Minion Master build.

So that leaves midline and backline, which means that they need people on their team to fight on the node for them, and they have to provide more to their team than just condi pressure or max damage autoattacks.

Wells on Necro should be first and foremost on their minds in team play. Why Corrupt one guy’s boons when you can corrupt the entire point’s boons. Why give them the opportunity to focus you when you can drop Well of Darkness and they thrash around unable to hit you. After Well goes down, go Plague. If your teammates are so bad that they can’t kill anyone thrashing around at perma blind, then realize that. If you don’t want to get 1 shot in team play, then why aren’t you bringing something more tanky or building to be more tanky.

As for defensiveness, any class that has a second health mechanic that can be made much more durable by Vital Persistance and isn’t using it has a fundamental lack of understanding of the class. It’s a 10 point trait that turns you into an incredibly hard to kill SOB in 1v1, and even in group situations you are hard to focus, esp when your Spectral Armor procs.

Life siphon Wells are very strong, but, for some reason AoE support, control, life stealing, and, with Clerics ammy, the best AoE heal in the game are “not viable” /rolleyes.

I almost want to call the Necro community the NeQQromancers.

It’s clear that you have never played necromancer against a competent opponent, or team, or maybe you have never played necromancer. All of the things you are listing sound good on paper but do not pan out in practice.

1. The healing isn’t enough.
2. When specced in this manner a necro might as well be afk from a damage aspect. The cooldowns are to long on wells and to easy to counter. Wells are best when someone is already dead, unfortunately, the necro is usually dead first. (all things being equal between the teams). So wells are “generally” only helping to further win a fight you have already won.
3. Necros are already playing tanky. What amulet do you think necros use? It’s either carrion or rabid for condi.
4. I’m glad your solution for necro survivability is a 180second cooldown that almost makes you easier to train down. It does a LOT to stop the ranged damage… (sarcasm just in case anyone missed it).
5. Finally, while a heavy deathshroud spec with vital persistence sounds cool, you basically do nothing while in the form. So once again you are taking a lot of damage, but you provide nearly no support or damage while in the form. (I realize you can spec for some support while in Deathshroud but the support is very minor and is outclassed by every other support class). i.e. death shiver, and the new condi removal trait.

If you come up with some savior spec, I will be the first to use it and say thank you, but you can’t come in and tell all of these very experienced necromancers (lopez, bhawb, forsaker, and i’m sure some others I missed) that it’s do-able when I guarantee you haven’t done it successfully.

Necros cannot strip boons often enough to counter boon heavy teams. It would really have to be a team effort. You are looking at a 60 second cd or a 48sec cooldown to reliably pressure all of the boons. The fact is they are just generated much much faster than you can remove them.

In theory the necromancer could counter that team, but that theory has to include the necro being alive, which isn’t going to be the case because they can’t sustain.

#6CapProphecies GG APEX

Vuh.1328:

Allie Murdock.8152:

Yes, use them.

Give us something to use our crafting materials on which won’t produce more of some other ok or give us RSI ok?

Crafting dyes don’t count since it such a horrible experience to craft multiple of those

I have hundreds, if not 1000’s of crafting mats. Anet please seriously look at what you are asking me to do. You are asking me to spend HOURS salvaging, and clicking materials into the Mystic Forge because of your system change. If I do not, then I forfeit all of those rewards. This means that I cannot play the game, but rather I have to use a burdensome system to liquidate my rewards, rewards which I have stockpiled because of the system being so awful to use. This is a waste of my time, and of my past effort.

I urge you to seriously reconsider the way you are implementing this change. You are changing the system, and the burden should be on you to liquidate my items not me.

5v5 for sure.

^ Confirmed. -WellWhaleWell

Zoose.1640:

I think Necros are pretty strong in the right hands and with the right team. Most people just tend to brush off necros because it isn’t easy to play or fit into a team. We need some god tier necro teams to unleash the beast ; ]

“god tier necro teams " Can we get an ETA on the Korean release?

I actually do play warrior. It is my second most played class. I also said those were meant to be constructive. I hope you can take them that way, if you want to get better.

Also you do know I play on the team with chubbz and Nnight right? Also this post was about warriors playing in Tpvp, not a person carrying their team, but to your point. They are both very good, but i assure you that it is hard to “carry” in this game to the extent you can in other games, but Nnight is in no way getting carried, and I would argue that he is the one carrying us, over anyone else on our team. I think chubbz would agree. I think Nnight is one of the best players in this game right now, and can really play every class at a high level which I think is impressive. Maybe you could ask him to stream and you could learn something. I’ll ask him too.

I don’t know this for sure but you only mentioned the players from each team that happen to stream, which people often make the mistake of assuming those are the best players out there, which is generally not true. Or maybe you have an ele fetish? Ele’s are a great class that can do a ton, I admit I am jealous of their team utility myself!

Ok. First I was one of your three viewers just now. So I did watch you. I don’t know why you are calling other people low skilled. you have a lot of room to improve.

For starters, you need to turn on quick cast because you are losing vital seconds where otherwise you would land a full whirlwind or even your longbow shots that miss otherwise. You run many times when you could just have stayed and won; I’m sure you will get better with experience at that. Or maybe you just like to run in frees. My final point would be that you tend to blow all of your cooldowns to get one kill. Longbow 5 (immobolize) followed by the bulls charge, frenzy and balanced stance. If you go back and watch your vid from just today you will see that you over use your CD’s a lot. You don’t need all of those for one kill, especially when it’s 2 or 3 of you on 1 guy, or a 1v1. Anyway, i mean these as constructive other than you don’t have room to call be low skilled. You may have potential but as of now you are not high skilled on warrior.

To the original OP, and to this post. Warriors can viably melee with the GS and Ax/shield combo, but there are not many warriors that can do it. There are only 2 in the NA scene that currently do it at a competitive level. Nnight (Lil Nnight) and Hman.

To the Longbow warrrios, I think that your build could work, however I have yet to see it work well for anyone. I play paids often, and I win often, and I don’t see any warriors with a longbow as a threat ever as of now. And I mean a threat to actually winning the tourney. As of now it’s 1 of like 4-5 teams we play on Khylo pretty much everyt time. However, I would like to see new builds, and new teams there, good luck to you.

My name is “Well Whale Well” and I play necro. Although QP’s do not matter I am actually on the list and play regularly against all teams if that helps my credibility at all.

Thanks

DevilsGlare.7658:

I definitely agree with what Sataarcoeny is bringing to the table right now. GW2/Devs please take note that as of right now, the reward system is not greater than the actual risk of queing for paids.

When you que up, your goal is to win… Plain and simple. If your a brand new team that can’t make it past 1st round because you keep going against more experienced teams, then the incentive to play is gone.

Making a team is more than just having skilled players. You have to take motivation and morale into account. I know multiple teams that have broken up just because of either of those issues alone.

Anet, GIVE people the incentive to que and keep on pushing. You will never see new teams, nor Esport play if people don’t have the motivation to keep on playing.

The rewards from paid tournaments need to be sought after, in my opinion. It should be something more than just paid tournament gear and some gems. The items in the gem store aren’t enticing as it is. I truly only ever use my gems to buy more tickets, and get gold every once in awhile.

As Sataarcoeny stated above, the only reason to actually compete in paid tournaments is bragging rights. Nothing more, nothing less. It is long gone to even remotely think about being on top of the QP Leaderboard for new teams. Sure, the people that are on top keep pushing for a better place on that leaderboard, but what about new teams with 0 QPs? They truly will never catch up unless the other top players on that leaderboard stop playing or quit the game. Give NEW and OLD teams alike more incentive to play, and you’ll have a broader player base.

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QT Vain

I support this post.

Well Whale Well

That is a big deal. This should be fixed asap.

Also Xil.4318 that is an illusion of life which is not a rez.

Well Whale Well.

I think you will find the game is relatively balanced for how new it is. That being said if you want to pick one of those 3 then I would play Mesmer, or Elementalist.

If you like high mobility or support go with the Ele for roaming potential or support.

Solo ability go Mesmer.

Thank you for your service.

Eddie.9143:

strange i’ve never seen anyone score that high….ever

Those are his boosted values; with the pvp booster.

I am currently on Crystal Desert, and the mist is pretty much dead. I would like to find the server that has an active mist so that I can, at least, attempt to find a group of people to Tpvp with, and competent people to duel with.

Or

If you are a group looking for someone hit me up. I am looking for competitive people. I used to do WoW arena at the gladiator level and my highest rating there was a little over 2700. I mainly play warrior and engineer, but really I would play anything just to have a group to play with.

Thanks for the help. I really don’t know any other way to find people because the mist is empty.

Feel free to PM me in game if you would rather.