So the moving of DVG, what can I say…
DVG at the start were a guild that picked up from the ‘IRON triangle’ and started anew. They started out by training the new and guild-less players, open raids everyday and gathering a strong and good reputation. At one point they were one of the most respectable guilds on Desolation, with a strong community and dedicated WvW players. However, recently DVG seems to have collapsed under its own virtues. Their recruitment policy of anyone who was interested in WvW meant nobody was ever left out, but it also left them with ~200 sub/on par players in the guild. Although continually addressing to the community they were ‘training’ them, the standards didn’t seem to improve. I ran with one of DVGs last open raids, in which they constantly mixed their combo-fields, had poor blasting and had a very weak melee train (whether they like to admit this or not).
As DVG moved towards the end of its career on Desolation it also transitioned away from its original primary goals. They continuously ran untagged ‘guild raids’ and started to GvG, a stark contrast to its original points per tick and playing for the guild-less players DVG had originally. Towards the end of its Desolation life, DVG also in my opinion became less innovative in its WvW play and commanding, and began to drop its reputation. To go along with this several times in the days before DVG left I saw some of the most appalling behaviour since starting Guild Wars 2, but I won’t go into that here.
Overall I am not sad to see DVG go. If it was the DVG of old I would feel it would have a dramatic loss to our community, but the modern DVG we saw in the past few weeks I feel no sympathy for. In many ways DVG leaving was a good thing, they took some of the less-able players Desolation had been burdened with with them. I do think though it is very hypocritical of DVG, the Desolation Vanguard to leave Desolation when the times get tough. The people that fight for the server are the first to jump ship before the leagues. My question now is who will be next?
PS; I think Piken was the wrong choice.
That’s your view from OUTSIDE the guild.
We are still the same, we still recruited and trained everyone who had interest in WvW. You forget one thing: everyone was a ‘pug’ at some time, everyone.
So until we came with the decision of leaving DESO, we were still recruiting and training everyone who wanted to join.
Does this make us a bad guild? Define bad guild. We wanted to change DESO losing streak and ‘we’ did. We wanted to train ‘pugs’ and we did.
We lost open field battles? Yes. Did we win open field battles? Yes.
At the end of the day we didn’t care as much about losing open field battles as we cared about winning but we never ran away from a fair fight, at least intentionally.
So we left because times got rough? How was the time when DVG was created? Can you remind me (us)?
We are not elitists and we’ll never be and you will know that we’re a fun guild to hang out with if you spend time with us… and that might be the reason why alot of DVG is going to Piken, that shows how people in DVG feel about DVG.
PS: we didn’t do GvG, we did training sessions with some of the core members (3 times?), we did it so we could improve our fighting skills. We also ran untagged for training purposes and they were like once a week, thrice at the most.
