Guild Wars 2

Earlier this week I noticed this: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/mike-lewis-on-the-war-against-the-bots/

I hadn’t noticed that many bots in many weeks but from about two weeks ago I started noticing more again. They’re more concentrated around the area’s that you grind at for specific items such as charged lodestones or powerful bloods. It started with two of them and I reported both of them about 5 to 10 times I expect, yet they still walk around and are a thorn in my side (since they kill the things I grind for a few hours every day or every other day). As of a few days ago, perhaps since that post, their numbers increased to about 7 running around the area. Is there anything else I can do so they are removed or banned faster?

I am posting this to try to create more awareness and to find out if there’s anything else we can do to get them banned faster. A lot of effort had been made, but judging by increasing numbers again, I wouldn’t say that botting has been dealt a decisive blow, as Mike suggested. On the other hand, besides these bots (that add up to 7 bots now), I don’t generally encounter them so often.

How is this percieved on other servers? Does this occur on other servers as well?

(Naturally, I hope this increases awareness for ArenaNet since it is becoming more annoying to me and a few friends of mine now that there numbers have increased)

Daendur.2357:

ok, so you are saying that everything in the game is “farming” because you repeatedly use your mouse and your keyboard?
According to Urban dictionary “Farm”: to camp in and area in a video game with the aim of collecting large amounts of gold or items

If you kill 20 mobs travelling cursed shore, then go wvw, than play tp, than use mystic forge (you can put in karma, mystic coins, skill points, glob of ecto) you are not “farming”

First allow me to expres my gratitude for telling me how to play this game. Riddle me this, how do you acquire karma, (enough) mystic coins, enough glob of ecto to do anything with the forge? Do you also realise that, for instance, doing your daily every day can also be called farming mystic coins? That is what I would call it. I go into wvw for fun, but I certainly check how many badges I get every time, since I want to have a legendary weapon. If I play wvw for a few hours I’ll enjoy it. But on top of that I am also “farming” badges. Who are you to tell me, or anyone else for that matter, what I can or cannot do in the game? If you wish to give a lecture about how “bad” farming is. Perhaps you should realise that if you repeat ANY kind of content with the goal of collecting any kind of item is essentially called farming. If you kill 20 of the same few monsters, congratulations, you are farming.

And lets not even get into the problems with using the mystic forge after your so-called 20 monster kills. After 20 kills, you’ll have nothing to throw into the forge but porous bones. You need to kill a significant amount to have anything to put in the MF or to put on the TP. Killing a significant amount will result in farming, unless you suggest just running around killing random stuff. It’s rather difficult to get enough karma to get anything worthwhile when you’re killing random stuff. It’ll have to mean doing events. Doing events will have the inherent “problem” (your opinion, not mine) that you need to farm. Afterall, you’re not going to do content that gives less reward for the same effort right? That’s like getting a high degree in some subject and then becoming a dishwasher at a restaurant (nothing wrong with dishwashers). As a level 80 (did you reach that yet or are you just a forum warrior?) you’re not going to do level 5 events…

Again, you are taking things off topic. We were discussing the problems currently involved with accumulating money and items in order to obtain legendary weapons. Do not try to speak for Arena Net if you do not share their views. I have previously linked that they like farmers and approve of that. If you find them stating outright that farming is bad, then feel free to paste that. Until that time, stop taking this off topic by expressing your opinion about how “bad” farming is. If that is your opinion, make a new topic. Thank you.

Mercator.1827:

Then clearly my master plan is already in motion..

In case you don’t know, they are planning on adding another way of acquiring precursors (with some sort of treasure hunt type of thing). In case you need more for the legendary besides the precursor, you may want to focus on that before going for the precursor. Just a thought though.

Caz.8017:

Got a email from Anet asking me to give them some feed back on the cursed shore event. And the Link didn’t work so I through Id put up my thoughts on it here.

Anyways, I throught it was really really bad. I enjoyed the Halloween event soo much more. Nothing was over powered to the point of death after death. I found on my warrior in the new zone of cursed shore. Nothing like the the spirit of giant crabs that smash your face in. So I tried some events, thinking maybe this isn’t bad. I’m just doing it wrong?

Did the avoid the underground worms and get metal gears for some asuran dude. One shot event time, couldnt help anyone else in down state, unless I wants more of a repair bill. In the end I was fed up with the whole zone, got abused by otheir players since. Apparently you need to spent 15 gold to buy a set of toughness gear to even do the zone?

Stupid me, I through you could be in any gear to do anything since gear isn’t meant to mean allot. Apparently from the look, oops silly me shouldn’t have listened to all those youtube videos from Anet. About that topic….

From that Zone I didnt even bother trying to do the dungeons. So I spent my time doing the dragon in frostgorge sound. Nothing like a good old dragon fight. Before logging of disappointed in this amazing one time event.

I really loved this game in Beta weekend one. Best Mmo I have ever played. but after that you seemed to have changed too much. Its just another MMo nothing really great or new, just a better spin on Rift. Thats all my throughs I loved my thief but that sucks hard core for Pve.

But thats just my through’s on this event. But I’m sure going to get flamed for even speaking out.

The positive this about this game, I love charr, the first start zones are fun but it losses it edge by the end. Kinda feels like someone got sick to death of trying to come up with something new. Its just a rinse repeat. Im not event going to touch Wvw and Pvp with a 10 foot pole. Umm yea Hated Cured shore. But um I think, Im getting to old for Mmos and the effort you need to just get any where. Puzzle they are only made for small characters. Another bummer.

Thats my feed back.

You realise that they asked feedback about the Lost Shores event? Cursed shore is an Orr region. I do however agree with a lot of what you’re saying.

Daendur.2357:

BabelFish.7234:

Daendur.2357:

BabelFish.7234:

Daendur.2357:

i suggest you to change game. You grinders have already done enough damages with those absurd requests. More grind ?!?! WTF!
I earn more much money than before the patch. Running 1 istance a day is more rewarding than before. Kill a champion that can drop is more rewarding than before.

If its more rewarding then why do I get more rares out of farming lvl 80 trash mobs?
Why do I get more t6 mats out of farming trash mobs?

That champion takes a decent chunk of time to kill and the rewards for doing so don’t make me go “hey look there’s a champion lets zerg up and go kill it!” instead it gives me the exact opposite inclination., I want to avoid it so I can grind the smaller, easier to kill and more rewarding trash mobs.

The rewards for the work do not scale properly or in layman’s terms: Anet is paying fast food employees $125/hr while Lawyers are paid $75/hr.

because you are farming, not playing. I hope they’ll put a DR on common mobs to stop ppl like you.

To put it bluntly: someone sounds a little resentful and butthurt, applying their arbitrary terms of what is playing a game and what isn’t to others.

i am resentful, and i am expressing my opinion, even considering what devs stated. They want(ed) to stop farmeing, otherwise they would not have introduced DR on dungeons.
Grinding and farming to me are abominations and games’ cancers. A distorted and alienating way to play a game. Are there people that like that? Ok, i’m fine … there are also people that like to be ballbusted; let it become the rule?

Anet has stated that they did not implement DR to discourage farming. They implemented DR to fight botting. Disadvantage there is they’re damaging farmers, who aren’t botting.

I also fully agree that you’re displaying us, since I would consider myself a farmer, as something we are not. We work to get specific gear because we find it cool/fun to have it. Does that make us any less of a player than you? Also, I’ve met more people during farming than during dungeon runs with pugs. How is that alienating? You’re also taking things off topic by attacking people on their opinions, rather than stating your own opinion (troll…).

Edit: Here’s a post with a developer explaining why they implemented DR: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Let-s-Start-the-Karma-DR-Dialogue/338359

I agree with OP. The problem is that, in order to get a legendary, you’re forced to farm money, karma and materials. Events such as plinx, shelter and penitent make that possible. People that choose to farm in this way, afaik, do not bother those that do not want to farm like this. You should be able to choose between grinding on dynamic events such as plinx or running dungeons. Right now, Anet seems to force us into focussing on dungeons. The events generally aren’t rewarding enough to run (if you include things like waypoint costs, repair costs if there’s too few people there to do the event and such things). Also, I’m finding it a bit more difficult to get to know people in area’s since you run all over the map and spend very little time playing with the same people. I met a good deal of people in game that I’d call friends of mine (such as the OP).

As people have said in various other places, you need to have incentive to do something. It needs to be profitable to do events. If its not profitable or if its difficult to do a few in a row, then people will not do them. For instance, plinx had a very good timer which enabled good planning with other events. You could run a few others in between plinx runs. Currently, if plinx is done, you have a lot of downtime in between. I don’t play the game to stand around. I’m sure someone will suggest “go elsewhere and do events there”, I can respond with “why?”. I prefer repeating a select number of events over running all over the place. It’s diverse enough to not get boring that fast (the chain was around half an hour, that doesn’t get That repeatatitve).

I wonder, could someone explain to me what the problem was with plinx farming? Wouldn’t it have been better to buff dungeons, as they have done, to provide incentive to do dungeons as well as DE farming? Now it seems they want to push us into the dungeons and out of the normal area’s.

And what is wrong with farming? You have a problem with people liking efficiency with earning gold?

Edit: I also agree that champions still do not give me loot that is profitable and I also avoid them. Despite the buff they apparently got, I haven’t noticed much of it on the champions I did participate with in killing.